Ap Top 25, Vols #5

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Tennessee has by far the best loss in America. The committee will look at the Georgia vs Oregon game at a neutral site then look at UT on the road in that environment with our strength of schedule and only 27-13. It's not comparable. So I believe that automatically eliminates the Pac12 from contention because whether Oregon or USC win they just haven't won against anyone else substantial. Clemson is absolutely done. LSU is not getting in even with an SEC championship, we embarrassed them at home. I think we are a shoo in if TCU losses and we win out. Probably gonna be #1 Georgia, #2 Ohio state/Michigan, #3 Ohio state/Michigan/TCU(if they don't lose), #4 Tennessee.

It's possible if TCU looses and Oregon or USC win convincingly they get in at 3 or 4, but I still think if UT and Michigan and TCU are sitting there at 1 loss it's UT everytime.

I know everyone is reeling and disappointed but give it a week or two and do our part and we absolutely will be talked about again as one of the best teams in America. Just my opinion.

I think the committee has shown and understands that sometimes a top team can have an everything go wrong day, that was us yesterday (and Georgia is currently the best team in CFB), the committee showed this last year with Georgia. The Alabama and LSU victories are a major feather in our cap.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I mean some norms are consistent across the committees even as they have new members and members term limited. One being a team that debuts as #1 being in the final 4 rankings as long as they have 0 or 1 losses. Tennessee at 11-1 would be in the playoff.

However in the PSU scenario, it has happened once with a committee that decided that is no longer voting or participants in the CFP.... What they "ruled" has no bearing on this committee.

The only "precedent" I have not agreed with is the 2016 PSU 2 loss champ.... Not sure there is anything else I've argued that would be against precedent.

If there is only 1 undefeated P5 champ, there is a path for a 2 loss champ to get in. Especially when the 2 loss champ would have 3 top ten wins in a 7 game win streak to end the season.... And if that team makes the playoff and the above precedent of #1 team in the initial rankings makes the playoff, Not sure why you are freaking out.

This is how chaos happens.

Look, I don't believe LSU stands a chance vs UGA... But if they somehow go into that game in the top 6, a win would be hard to ignore on them securing the 4 spot. And I do not think the choice for the 4th spot would be between 11-1 Tennessee and 11-2 LSU. This is the difference between 2016. I 10000% believe Tennessee is a lock to be in the playoff as the #3 seed. I think the 1,2,3 seeds are locked right now. #4 is now in TCU's lane with 2-3 teams on their heels. If they drop a game, the 4th spot chaos grows....
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Not sure why you think I’m freaking out or what I’m even supposed to be freaking out about. I just don’t at all agree with your assessment, although I do think we generally agree on where we will end up. TCU isn’t playing for the 4th spot. They’re playing for a spot. Just because you think we’re a lock for the third spot doesn’t make it so. We’ve been over this though and others have been as well. It’s pointless to do it again. I think UT probably does end up in the 3 spot when all is said and done with UGA 1 and the Big 10 winner at 2.
 
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I hate Texas but we must cheer them on this weekend. Cheering for burnt Orange is sickening by all is good in love and war. Just beat TCU.
we better have our head right for Missouri
 
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SouthKnoxVol70 said:
If the Ga team shows up that played Kent State or Missouri, anything can happen. But ok…
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I think UGA plays down to their opponents and was coasting for Mizzou and Kent State. I don’t see them not showing up for the SEC title game. LSU has improved a lot but not enough to compete with UGA imo.
 
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I just can't see LSU beating Georgia. As much as I hate to say this, I think Georgia has, at least for the time being, supplanted Alabama as the best team in college football. So there is no misunderstanding, I do not like 'bama either, but I think Kirby is out coaching Saban now. Kirby is doing something no other coach at Georgia has done, he is locking down Georgia talent. I hope Heupel can bring in the same level athletes Kirby is now and Tennessee starts showing out just like Georgia. And if by something unforeseen happens and Tennessee doesn't make the playoffs, I guess I'll root for TCU to get in. My wife just loves them Horned Frogs. But they really need to consider changing their name.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
I mean, it all depends what everyone else does. When you lose, you give up control of your own destiny. We certainly still CAN make it, but it is no longer in our hands only.
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It was out of our hands for a few hours. Notre Dame put it back in our hands. LSU then duck taped our hands together so we wouldn’t drop it.
 
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GiveHim6InSC said:
Win out and have 2 wins over Top 10 teams.
GA wins out and goes to the SECCG vs LSU.
GA wins that and goes to playoff.
OSU and Michigan will play each other, but neither has the resume that UT does.
GA, TCU (possibly), winner of OSU-Michigan, and UT in the playoffs.
Reasonable?
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Don't forget the possibility or Oregon winning out, the media is already writing off their blowout loss to UGA. UCLA/USC will play so one will get a loss. Need these guys to all get another L just to give some space between Tennessee and others that could sneak up late. I could see the committee trying to sneak in a Pac 12 team in there. They don't look in position now, but after looking at the schedules the rest of the way, I think a 1 loss USC, UCLA, OR Oregon could get some attention.
 
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The committee will do whatever the hell they want to and find a way to justify it. If they want to put a 12-1 P12 champ in ahead of Tennessee they will.
 
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SouthKnoxVol70 said:
You don’t think if Lsu beats Ga in Sec Championship game they ain’t going to playoff ? I’m here to tell you , that will happen with the committee.
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I mean there is no precedent for a 2 loss team going. Stating something as fact doesn’t make it so. I think LSU has played themselves out of a chance at a NC this year and in my opinion that’s good. For a team to be in the final four they shouldn’t lose 1 of every 6 played in the regular season. And they shouldn’t lose by 27 at home. And they honestly shouldn’t lose to an average fsu team.
 
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#74
This is pretty much exactly where we would end up. Those thinking we would drop out of the top ten are just silly.
 
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GiveHim6InSC said:
Win out and have 2 wins over Top 10 teams.
GA wins out and goes to the SECCG vs LSU.
GA wins that and goes to playoff.
OSU and Michigan will play each other, but neither has the resume that UT does.
GA, TCU (possibly), winner of OSU-Michigan, and UT in the playoffs.
Reasonable?
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You are leaving out Oregon. If they win out and win the P12 they will get in.
 
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