Are you pulling for any of the remaining teams...

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BernardKingGOAT said:
Regardless, in the end, the traditional powers are playing for national championships. Arizona State facking belonged. They've been dormant for years, but have been a force in the past, under the radar. They put a lot of players in the NFL up until the last 15-20 years. Oregon has become a power the past two decades but still isn't considered a traditional power like ND, Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia, Texas and yes, Tennessee. Alabama and Michigan were really the only two traditional teams not to make it that had a chance, and Michigan was out of it early in the season
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It's obvious you don't get what I'm saying. So I'll ask you this: why were we considered a lock to make the playoffs at 10-2 while Miami (another traditional power) was behind 9-3 Alabama as the second team out? I'll tell you why. Because we played in the SEC and the SEC has built up a reputation of being the strongest conference in the country so a 10-2 SEC team gets the benefit of being considered worthy of being in the playoffs ahead of other teams from other conferences with similar records. Hell Alabama was knocking on the door of a playoff berth with 3 losses.

If the SEC no longer has that reputation, that means we no longer get the benefit of being first in line of 10-2 teams to make the playoffs. We could find ourselves in the same spot as Miami or Florida State last year where despite having the better record, teams with tougher schedules because of the conference they play in will get in over us. That's the risk that happens when teams from our conference struggle in this out of conference games. It places doubt onto our playoff resume. And it's bewildering to me that more people can't see that.
 
#127
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
It's obvious you don't get what I'm saying. So I'll ask you this: why were we considered a lock to make the playoffs at 10-2 while Miami (another traditional power) was behind 9-3 Alabama as the second team out? I'll tell you why. Because we played in the SEC and the SEC has built up a reputation of being the strongest conference in the country so a 10-2 SEC team gets the benefit of being considered worthy of being in the playoffs ahead of other teams from other conferences with similar records. Hell Alabama was knocking on the door of a playoff berth with 3 losses.

If the SEC no longer has that reputation, that means we no longer get the benefit of being first in line of 10-2 teams to make the playoffs. We could find ourselves in the same spot as Miami or Florida State last year where despite having the better record, teams with tougher schedules because of the conference they play in will get in over us. That's the risk that happens when teams from our conference struggle in this out of conference games. It places doubt onto our playoff resume. And it's bewildering to me that more people can't see that.
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Yep, I am going to hold my nose and hope SEC teams end up in the big game after eliminating BIG teams head to head where possible. More important now that the world will be dismissing regular bowl results due to variable portal losses being higher than non playoff games.

Harder to create a different pecking order if we continue to dominate the trophy stand.

Losses in Semis won’t bring them back to the recruiting pack. Maybe worse with a one player away sales pitch. Kind of a no win deal here, but this is my current calculation.
 
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#131
Anybody but UGA. I actually want Ohio State to win it all so our game does not look as pitiful. Notice after they beat Oregon that the media was realizing Tennessee ran into a buzz saw versus being a team who did not belong.
 
#132
#132
carolinaviking said:
in the playoffs?

I'm hoping for Oregon to win it all. After that, maybe Texas...would be cool to see Arch Manning play a role. After that, I like Penn State.
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Not anymore. With the ducks and vols out of it, I'm pulling against UGA, ND and Texas. Other than those three, I just want to see good football and don't care who wins it.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
It's obvious you don't get what I'm saying. So I'll ask you this: why were we considered a lock to make the playoffs at 10-2 while Miami (another traditional power) was behind 9-3 Alabama as the second team out? I'll tell you why. Because we played in the SEC and the SEC has built up a reputation of being the strongest conference in the country so a 10-2 SEC team gets the benefit of being considered worthy of being in the playoffs ahead of other teams from other conferences with similar records. Hell Alabama was knocking on the door of a playoff berth with 3 losses.

If the SEC no longer has that reputation, that means we no longer get the benefit of being first in line of 10-2 teams to make the playoffs. We could find ourselves in the same spot as Miami or Florida State last year where despite having the better record, teams with tougher schedules because of the conference they play in will get in over us. That's the risk that happens when teams from our conference struggle in this out of conference games. It places doubt onto our playoff resume. And it's bewildering to me that more people can't see that.
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If I counted correctly, we are currently 7-5 in postseason play so far (bowls & CFP), with two teams still in the CFP. Not exactly dominating the other conferences. This is supposed to be the time of year where we prove we are the toughest conference.

On the flip side, OSU's whipping of UT only makes them 3-12 all-time verses SEC opponents. Stats can be funny.

However, in SEC vs Big10 comparison the SEC is 112-77 all games/all-time. and 70-41 in bowl games. Give or take. not sure how up to date that is.

But, this year the SEC post season performance is rather blah. And I suppose Texas was as surprised by ASU as most eveyone else was. Best game I've seen thus far.
 
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#136
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
We need an all SEC Final between Georgia and Texas to save our pathetic conference from total embarrassment.

Between us getting blown out by Ohio State, Alabama looking like trash against Michigan, and South Carolina losing to Illinois, the SEC needs Georgia and Texas in the Final to salvage our reputation. Otherwise we're going into next year being looked at as a lesser conference that won't get the benefit of the doubt when conversations about who deserves to be in the playoffs comes up.
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I understand but I could give a $h!t about other SEC teams.
 
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#138
JackWhite said:
The University of Tennessee, established in 1794, proudly bore the “UT” moniker long before the University of Texas was founded in 1883. Despite Tennessee’s historical claim, Texas adopted the same abbreviation, leading to a contentious dispute over rightful ownership. In 1986, a begrudging compromise was reached: Tennessee would use “UT” east of the Mississippi River, and Texas to the west. This decision underscores Tennessee’s precedence and exposes Texas’s overreach in appropriating the “UT” designation.
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So are we mad at the state of Utah at well??? 😆. That’s a little silly in my opinion. Both are great universities with great history. Listen if you wanna hate Texas go ahead. I like the state of Texas and if I was a Texan, I’d be a longhorn. Go Vols!
 
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GVF said:
If I counted correctly, we are currently 7-5 in postseason play so far (bowls & CFP), with two teams still in the CFP. Not exactly dominating the other conferences. This is supposed to be the time of year where we prove we are the toughest conference.

On the flip side, OSU's whipping of UT only makes them 3-12 all-time verses SEC opponents. Stats can be funny.

However, in SEC vs Big10 comparison the SEC is 112-77 all games/all-time. and 70-41 in bowl games. Give or take. not sure how up to date that is.

But, this year the SEC post season performance is rather blah. And I suppose Texas was as surprised by ASU as most eveyone else was. Best game I've seen thus far.
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People are prisoners of the moment. So nobody cares about all-time records. This is a what have you done lately for me business. And lately the SEC has been getting punked by the Big 10 and that's all anyone will remember going into next year.
 
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tennesseeduke said:
I understand but I could give a $h!t about other SEC teams.
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This is why a logical mind is superior to an emotional one. Anyone rooting against our conference when conference prestige is critical to a sport based on humans ranking teams like college football is insane. If college football was formatted like the NFL where everyone played a similar schedule and where playoff position was determined by your place in conference rankings then sure I'd be all in on the screw other SEC teams bandwagon. But whether yall like it or not in college football our position in the playoff rankings each year will be greatly influenced by how the SEC is perceived. If the SEC is no longer considered the best conference in the country because SEC teams keep losing in the postseason then it'll effect how many teams get in to the playoffs from the SEC.

Do yall really wanna live in a world where the SEC is viewed like the Big 12 or ACC where we basically have to win the conference or get to the title game to make a 12 team playoff? Cause that's what will happen if the SEC teams lose in the postseason to other conferences. Tennessee at 10-2 will start getting treated like Miami where instead of 10-2 getting you in easily will instead have us on the outside looking in as 9-3 Big 10 teams have position over us when it comes to making the playoffs.

That's the consequence of wanting other SEC teams to lose in games against other conferences. It'll eventually hurt Tennessee.
 
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#144
Not really...

I used to cheer for SEC teams but in this era, what is the point? Even the Cinderellas are frustrating to me this year because they basically caused Tennessee to be a 9 seed with their wanky system and made us go to Ohio State.
 
#145
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volbound1700 said:
Not really...

I used to cheer for SEC teams but in this era, what is the point? Even the Cinderellas are frustrating to me this year because they basically caused Tennessee to be a 9 seed with their wanky system and made us go to Ohio State.
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Tennessee was a 9 seed, 10-2 team on the road in the playoff because we had an arkansas loss on our schedule in a year that Arkansas should have been an easy win home or away. If anyone hasn't noticed, OSU prob would have won in Neyland, and PSU so far does not appear like they would have been an easier opponent.
 
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#146
GVF said:
Tennessee was a 9 seed, 10-2 team on the road in the playoff because we had an arkansas loss on our schedule in a year that Arkansas should have been an easy win home or away. If anyone hasn't noticed, OSU prob would have won in Neyland, and PSU so far does not appear like they would have been an easier opponent.
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PSU would have been an easier opponent and tOSU and Oregon, in theory, both got screwed as well with the setup. tOSU won @ Penn State but committee put them higher.

Also Boise State being ahead of Tennessee was a joke. Move Notre Dame to that #3 slot and put Boise State back where they should have been at a 10/11 seed and we probably got a better playoff setup as we would have moved up to 8 and likely played Indiana or SMU, tOSU would be the 7 seed (although I think they should have been swapped with Penn State), etc. Bracket would have been better setup.
 
#147
#147
volbound1700 said:
PSU would have been an easier opponent and tOSU and Oregon, in theory, both got screwed as well with the setup. tOSU won @ Penn State but committee put them higher.

Also Boise State being ahead of Tennessee was a joke. Move Notre Dame to that #3 slot and put Boise State back where they should have been at a 10/11 seed and we probably got a better playoff setup as we would have moved up to 8 and likely played Indiana or SMU, tOSU would be the 7 seed (although I think they should have been swapped with Penn State), etc. Bracket would have been better setup.
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All well and good in the if game. Fact is, wherever we all think we should have landed for an easier playoff game would have mattered little if we played no better than we did in that game. It ain't like we played that game like ASU played TX. We would have lost first round to 10 of the 12 the way we played.
 
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#148
GVF said:
All well and good in the if game. Fact is, wherever we all think we should have landed for an easier playoff game would have mattered little if we played no better than we did in that game. It ain't like we played that game like ASU played TX. We would have lost first round to 10 of the 12 the way we played.
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We play night and day difference in Neyland vs. Away. This is why I was very cautious about playing tOSU and didn't see the fan hype. Tennessee can't win on the road right now (at least when we play teams close to our level). I think they play scared and the staff coaches scared/conservative on the road.

Getting an 8/9 game against Indiana would have likely given a W to Tennessee. Whether we win against Oregon in the Rose Bowl or not is in question; I think Oregon would win frankly. Oregon would have also NOT gotten screwed with Tennessee vs Indiana winner.

Oregon would have been better off, the way the committee set this up, losing the B1G Championship game and getting Penn State's bracket. Let that one sink in. As an undefeated #1 seed, they hard a more difficult path than Penn State (who they beat). The brackets were all jacked up and inexcusable.
 
#149
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volbound1700 said:
We play night and day difference in Neyland vs. Away. This is why I was very cautious about playing tOSU and didn't see the fan hype. Tennessee can't win on the road right now (at least when we play teams close to our level). I think they play scared and the staff coaches scared/conservative on the road.

Getting an 8/9 game against Indiana would have likely given a W to Tennessee. Whether we win against Oregon in the Rose Bowl or not is in question; I think Oregon would win frankly. Oregon would have also NOT gotten screwed with Tennessee vs Indiana winner.

Oregon would have been better off, the way the committee set this up, losing the B1G Championship game and getting Penn State's bracket. Let that one sink in. As an undefeated #1 seed, they hard a more difficult path than Penn State (who they beat). The brackets were all jacked up and inexcusable.
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Can't play 'em all at home. And if we need to reason our way out of a game we don't need to be there in the first place. I get the brackets were jacked around and didn't make sense, but doesn't negate the fact we looked homeless in that game regardless of where it was played. And without proof otherwise, you can't tell me we would have done better against IU or anyone else since the only facts we have are how we played in that game. It wasn't UT's job to say the brackets weren't right and we should have had an easier road. It was UT's job to take the circumstances and prepare accordingly. Period. Geez even Saban Bama has been shellacked in playoff games before. It does happen. Quite often. More post season games are lopsided than good games.

We were 10-3 with wins in the same season against Bama & FLA which is an achilles heel for UT. And we had a playoff berth in a game we supplied plenty of pre-game fan fuel. There's only been 2 decent playoff games thus far. What's the downside?
 
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Oregon overrated. Penn State and Ohio State had easier seasons and played to win in the end. Tennessee had an excellent season but, just were not top 10 material in three areas....coaching (play calling), discipline (dumb penalties), and talent. On the lines...we were whooped by Arkansas, Georgia, Ohio State, and a couple other games we survived with some lucky breaks in turnovers and Nico to someone who could catch the ball. Alabama, TAMU, USC Jr, and Oklahoma were crap this year. With Vandy QB back...look out for them in 2025. SEC is 7-5 in bowl games this year so far. Ohio State vs Texas will be a close game. I'll go with Texas. I'll take Ole Miss over Duke. Georgia without Carson Beck...mmmmmm. I have too many Georgia fans in the family so will go with Georgia.
 
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