Arizona Election Audit

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Gandalf said:
There is no mechanism for removing a President that I am aware of except impeachment proceedings. That would put the current VP in charge. While I am absolutely sure that there was significant cheating going on in this past election, the die hards who think Trump will be re-instated are are deluding themselves.

Trump is not that stupid. He is simply gearing up for 2024 - first 2022 though to take back the house.
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I don't think there are that many who think Trump will be re-instated. If we don't expose and fix what happened in the 2020 election it will just happen again in 22 and then again in 24. Full forensic audits will expose the fraud. There is a reason that there is only one instance where anybody outside of Dominions little circle has been allowed full access to the machines. That one instance was in Antrim County Michigan where Matt Deperno has uncovered some damning evidence against Dominion.
 
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VolinWayne said:
I don't think there are that many who think Trump will be re-instated. If we don't expose and fix what happened in the 2020 election it will just happen again in 22 and then again in 24. Full forensic audits will expose the fraud. There is a reason that there is only one instance where anybody outside of Dominions little circle has been allowed full access to the machines. That one instance was in Antrim County Michigan where Matt Deperno has uncovered some damning evidence against Dominion.
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There's a Catch 22 in play there because of the claim that the error in Antrum was caused by a failure to do a software update as I recall. Here's the thing, and it's a two part thing:

1 - How can you certify machines if they don't have the latest updates?

2 - How can you legitimately apply a software update to "certified" machines without decertifying them?
 
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AM64 said:
There's a Catch 22 in play there because of the claim that the error in Antrum was caused by a failure to do a software update as I recall. Here's the thing, and it's a two part thing:

1 - How can you certify machines if they don't have the latest updates?

2 - How can you legitimately apply a software update to "certified" machines without decertifying them?
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You make 2 excellent points here. If what they are saying were true, they definitely should have decertified the machines in Antrim County. At this point, I don't believe a word that Dominion has to say. They have stated so many lies about the the machines not being able to be accessed on-line. I also don't think anybody should be ok with a private company having complete control over our elections. Maricopa County has stated numerous times and the same has been said in other counties that nobody in the county has the passwords and only Dominion has them. That's a huge issue that nobody should be ok with.
 
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Another thing I think is almost comical is the people on this board who are constantly trying to discredit the Arizona Audit because of the Ninjas believing there was fraud before the audit even started. These same people are being extremely hypocritical for not having an issue with Eric Coomer, one of Dominions top executives being extremely biased against Trump. So keep in mind, Dominion runs basically runs the election. Eric holds the adjudication patent and he is also the Vice President of Dominion. Check out this guy.




 
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Septic said:
LOL, soon?


Your willingness to believe any whacko theory that supports your desired outcome and parrot it here while trying to act like you're only interested in the truth is hilarious.
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Coomers hatred for Trump and his ties to Antifa is no wacko theory. It is simply a fact and I think it's hilarious that you guys are trying to discredit the Ninjas because of their bias and yet you have no issue with this guy running the election
 
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AM64 said:
There's a Catch 22 in play there because of the claim that the error in Antrum was caused by a failure to do a software update as I recall. Here's the thing, and it's a two part thing:

1 - How can you certify machines if they don't have the latest updates?

2 - How can you legitimately apply a software update to "certified" machines without decertifying them?
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Here is a better question. Why do you need to update the OS or software of a machine that is standalone, not able to connect in any way to a network and that is already certified to work properly?
 
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Gandalf said:
Here is a better question. Why do you need to update the OS or software of a machine that is standalone, not able to connect in any way to a network and that is already certified to work properly?
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I'm wondering if the last minute updates they are talking about is really the candidate database. However, that's still a problem because it means a critical part of the system would be loaded after the certification, and all the "certification" did was demonstrate that the correct number of demo votes got attributed to the correct candidate - which would have been changed. The whole thing reeks of potential fraud; leave it to us to screw up a easy thing with a computer.
 
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Gandalf said:
There is no mechanism for removing a President that I am aware of except impeachment proceedings. That would put the current VP in charge. While I am absolutely sure that there was significant cheating going on in this past election, the die hards who think Trump will be re-instated are are deluding themselves.

Trump is not that stupid. He is simply gearing up for 2024 - first 2022 though to take back the house.
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Solid and very level headed post.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
What? The "I'm certain there was a certain amount of cheating" comment?

The dumbing down of America
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Since I was PM to install similar voting machines and their entire process system for one of the largest cities in the US and managed Election Day operations for over 4 years I think that makes me a subject matter expert.

So when I give my opinion that there was clear evidence of substantial fraud (more than the usual retail kind, but have not yet seen definitive proof), I have a strong basis to make that statement.

You on the other hand… on what basis do you make yours?

Btw, if you didn’t understand my question, would you like me to dumb it down for you? :p
 
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Gandalf said:
Since I was PM to install similar voting machines and their entire process system for one of the largest cities in the US and managed Election Day operations for over 4 years I think that makes me a subject matter expert.

So when I give my opinion that there was clear evidence of substantial fraud (more than the usual retail kind, but have not yet seen definitive proof), I have a strong basis to make that statement.

You on the other hand… on what basis do you make yours?

Btw, if you didn’t understand my question, would you like me to dumb it down for you? :p
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This should about all but do him in on his rebuttals.

In addition, I believe rules where broken with election law changes as well. When you question it, then you are "rrrrrraccccist". It doesn't matter if you're a minority and question it. You're just working for the man.
 
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BreatheUT said:
This should about all but do him in on his rebuttals.

In addition, I believe rules where broken with election law changes as well. When you question it, then you are "rrrrrraccccist". It doesn't matter if you're a minority and question it. You're just working for the man.
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Laws changed to enable mail in voting, the send out of ballots to the whole population and the bundling of the ballot returns (making it easier to explain dropping off 10k completed ballots) is what made it possible to conduct fraud at the wholesale level.
 
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