Arizona Election Audit

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VolinWayne said:
The left peddled a completely fabricated lie for 3 years about Trump and Russia. This was all a lie and a completely made up story that ended up costing tax payers millions of dollars. All of this garbage has been proven false.
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The June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower between Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort with Natalia Veselnitskaya and several other Russian operatives was not proven false. The meeting did take place, and both Trump and Trump Jr. lied about who was in attendance and what was discussed. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss dirt on Hillary Clinton... not the Magnitsky Act and Russian adoptions.

VolinWayne said:
The Gateway Pundit got this story right as well.
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When you say "this story", do you mean the allegations that the 2020 Presidential Election was rigged against Donald Trump? Because there still isn't any evidence in support of that. According to documents released on Monday in a state defamation case brought by Dominion's security director, Eric Coomer, the Trump campaign prepared an internal memo on November 14th at deputy communications director Zach Parkinson's request that debunked multiple fraud allegations involving Dominion.

VolinWayne said:
They claimed that the FBI was heavily involved in pushing these guys to do what they did. It has now been proven that at least half of the guys who were involved in this plot were actually guys from the FBI or FBI informants.
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That is what defense attorneys for the would-be-kidnappers are alleging, but it has not proven true.

VolinWayne said:
The Gateway Pundit was also one of the first to report that Covid originated from the Wuhan Lab. At the time, this was labeled a conspiracy theory. We all now know this to be an undeniable fact.
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They were not one of the first to report this possibility... and it is not yet "an undeniable fact."

VolinWayne said:
I could go on and on with the stories that the Gateway Pundit came out with that were immediately labeled conspiracy theory but later it was proven true.
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You claim that things are established facts when they really aren't. The Gateway Pundit is a crackpot site that has run with every single conspiracy theory from the far right. From Seth Rich to the Sandy Hook hoax, to Pizzagate and Q Anon... they have lied about all of it.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Now you’re bringing it up for them.
If you want to have the conversation about one without the other then stipulate the the other is also Trash and move on.
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I don't care for CNN. If I'm ever watching them, it's usually in an airport bar while I'm getting drunk. They went downhill after removing Ted Turner from the day-to-day operations of the network 20 years ago, but their work is not comparable to what The Gateway Pundit does. This is not a defense of CNN... The Gateway Pundit is purely a fake news site. See the Jacob Wohl / Jack Burkman / Lorraine Parsons incident as an example of what I'm talking about. That sort of thing is beyond the pale of what would ever happen at CNN.
 
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VolinWayne said:
“The upcoming Arizona State Senate hearing and decisions this Friday, 24 SEPT are monumental. The historic consequences cannot be understated. Below is a letter going to the President of the AZ Senate and all the Senators and citizens of Arizona. Our nation stands on the shoulders of heroes and this time, our time, is no different. Pray that courage and discernment are felt far and wide across Arizona and throughout the entire United States of America. God Bless"

General Flynn


Letter From 'The American People' To 'The Arizona Senate' Goes Viral Right Before AZ Audit Results Are Released
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Someone has spiked my salad dressing with Covid vaccine.

~Also General Flynn
 
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VolinWayne said:
I'm not sure why you keep asking for my opinion when we all know you despise every opinion that I have. With that being said, here is my opinion.

I believe the Gateway Pundit is quite simply the polar opposite of the majority of other news sources. Everything they report is catered to the right. It's entire existence is built on reporting the things that the left and mainstream simply refuses to report. Do they get everything right? Of course not. Then again, how many news sources do in this day and time.

Take for example all of the Biden family crimes and Hunters laptop. Mainstream media simply refused to cover this when it came out in the weeks leading up to the election. They straight up lied and said the was all a conspiracy theory. The Gateway Pundit covered this and we see today that the majority of what they said was actually true. That was a major news story that absolutely should have been covered by every news source in the weeks leading up to the election. Mainstream media all colluded with each other and with Big Tech and called this fake news. Not that it even matters but how many voters who voted for Biden would have voted differently if this had been reported and they would have known the truth?

The left peddled a completely fabricated lie for 3 years about Trump and Russia. This was all a lie and a completely made up story that ended up costing tax payers millions of dollars. All of this garbage has been proven false. The Gateway Pundit got this story right as well. I wonder how many more "conspiracy theories" will be proven correct in the end.

The Gateway Pundit was also one of the first to report that Covid originated from the Wuhan Lab. At the time, this was labeled a conspiracy theory. We all now know this to be an undeniable fact.

They Gateway Pundit was one of the first to expose the FBIs involvement in the conspiracy to kidnap Gov. Whitmer. They claimed that the FBI was heavily involved in pushing these guys to do what they did. It has now been proven that at least half of the guys who were involved in this plot were actually guys from the FBI or FBI informants.

They also report a lot on the evidence that continues to come up on what went wrong with the stolen election. There is a very large percentage of Americans like myself who honestly believe the election was stolen. There is a ton of evidence out there to back up these opinions. Once again, mainstream media just simply refuses to cover this and have colluded with big tech to suppress every claim of fraud. Thousands of sworn affidavits but all these people are just simply conspiracy theorists.

I could go on and on with the stories that the Gateway Pundit came out with that were immediately labeled conspiracy theory but later it was proven true. Once again, do they get everything right? Absolutely no they don't. Sadly, Not many news sources do nowdays. Does this mean you just simply dismiss everythjng they put out simply because it is the Gateway Pundit? I don't think so. And yes, their news is always slanted right.
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I want to know why people think the Gateway Pundit is credible. You seemed to be someone who does.
 
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Put some numbers to it.
On a scale of 1 - 100.
1 = far right extremist trash, shouldn't believe a word
50 = unbiased and factual
100 = far left extremist trash, shouldn't believe a word.
Gateway Pundit = 4
FOX = 24
CNN = 67
 
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luthervol said:
Put some numbers to it.
On a scale of 1 - 100.
1 = far right extremist trash, shouldn't believe a word
50 = unbiased and factual
100 = far left extremist trash, shouldn't believe a word.
Gateway Pundit = 4
FOX = 24
CNN = 67
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There are several extreme left-wing media outlets which are comparable to The Gateway Pundit :

The Daily Beast, The Daily Kos, Mother Jones and AlterNet immediately come to mind. Those sites would be in the 80's and 90's on your scale. They are trash.

CNN has a very clear liberal bias, and they are becoming increasingly unprofessional. Nevertheless, their reporting does not compare to the schlock that makes its way onto The Gateway Pundit web site. Just as I would not compare Fox News to The Daily Beast, a fair-minded conservative should not be comparing CNN to The Gateway Pundit. They are NOT the same thing at all.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
If the report is incomplete then….ya. That’s how it works.
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Supposedly, the report and its conclusions are being revealed tomorrow. I interpret that to be a signal of the completion of the Maricopa County audit. If your reasoning is consistent, then any continued stonewalling of public records requests by the "Cyber Ninjas" after tomorrow, would invalidate their report and its conclusive findings.

... and it should be apparent by now that they have no intention of ever complying with those requests.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Complete or incomplete, once the report is over they have no reason to refuse to comply. Some of the items requested might not be items you'd typically include in an audit report, but if they are subject to an open records request turn them over.
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Watch him backtrack now.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I suspect that we have seen the last of @VolinWayne on the politics forum. Damn, this must feel like getting a 95 mph Nolan Ryan fastball to the nuts while not wearing a cup.
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The goalposts can always be moved.

As long as Redhats can keep conjuring up the specter of fraud having been committed somewhere, that will be enough for them to claim the entire system is bad. See demands to audit Texas now.
 
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