Arizona Election Audit

Cyber Ninjas was hired to announce that they found massive fraud, and then conclude that Donald Trump was the actual winner of Arizona... and that is exactly what they will do.
Seriously though, what if there’s nothing to find? If they do find something then it’s not like there results will be a big secret. There results are subject to audit as well. I agree with @hog88 this is likely another “nothing is going to happen “ event
 
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I think, or at least I hope, that the majority of Americans realize this to be true. There is just a high concentration here on the board and I guess here geographically that think like Wayne thinks.


I'd say the majority of the people I meet and talk to feel like I do. Most Americans know this election was stolen. I'd also say that most of us are over Trump but we do understand the consequences if we dont do something about what happened and seriously overhaul the way our elections are done. There is a grassroots movement happening right now all over America and it will not be stopped.
 
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I doubt that. Most likely they’ll find some minor discrepancies and the Rs will bluster, fuss and use it to raise money. In the end nothing changes.

So I ask again, why do you GAF? The results of the election aren’t changing.

Agreed. Why is he so staunch about this audit?
 
Cyber Ninjas was hired to announce that they found massive fraud, and then conclude that Donald Trump was the actual winner of Arizona... and that is exactly what they will do.

And? It changes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Joe Biden is president. Trump is not coming back this term.
 
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I doubt that. Most likely they’ll find some minor discrepancies and the Rs will bluster, fuss and use it to raise money. In the end nothing changes.

So I ask again, why do you GAF? The results of the election aren’t changing.
We will see what happens... I think they will be more ambitious than that. Logan has made some very bold allegations that he will want to announce as having been "verified". While nothing will change the outcome of the 2020 Presidential Election, their findings will also be used to justify voter suppression laws, which are the new rage all across the country in states with Republican-controlled state legislatures and a Republican Governor. They are in a competition to see who can pass the most encompassing restrictions... while trying to one-up each other. It is a farce, but it's a farce with a destructive purpose behind it.
 
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We will see what happens... I think they will be more ambitious than that. Logan has made some very bold allegations that he will want to announce as having been "verified". While nothing will change the outcome of the 2020 Presidential Election, their findings will also be used to justify voter suppression laws, which are the new rage all across the country in states with Republican-controlled state legislatures and a Republican Governor. They are in a competition to see who can pass the most encompassing restrictions... while trying to one-up each other. It is a farce, but it's a farce with a destructive purpose behind it.

What destructive purpose? Also what laws have been passed that are suppressing voters?
 
We will see what happens... I think they will be more ambitious than that. Logan has made some very bold allegations that he will want to announce as having been "verified". While nothing will change the outcome of the 2020 Presidential Election, their findings will also be used to justify voter suppression laws, which are the new rage all across the country in states with Republican-controlled state legislatures and a Republican Governor. They are in a competition to see who can pass the most encompassing restrictions... while trying to one-up each other. It is a farce, but it's a farce with a destructive purpose behind it.

Come on man, there hasn’t been any “voter suppression” laws passed. Don’t fall for the hype.
 
Democrats?
Republicans?
Or both?


If you think it’s one of the first 2 then you are stupid
Republicans know that they need to get the percentage of voter turnout down from what it was in the 2020 election cycle. Especially in states like Arizona and Georgia. Those two states now account for 4 Democratic Party Senators. Instead of attributing that to their stubborn efforts of pushing an awful candidate like Martha McSalley onto voters, they want to blame it on fraud.

Here's an idea for Arizona Republicans, pass some more voter restriction laws and nominate McSalley once again in 2024... so we can see her get her butt kicked a third time.
 
Republicans know that they need to get the percentage of voter turnout down from what it was in the 2020 election cycle. Especially in states like Arizona and Georgia. Those two states now account for 4 Democratic Party Senators. Instead of attributing that to their stubborn efforts of pushing an awful candidate like Martha McSalley onto voters, they want to blame it on fraud.

Here's an idea for Arizona Republicans, pass some more voter restriction laws and nominate McSalley once again in 2024... so we can see her get her butt kicked a third time.
That’s really not true.
The counter argument is Democrats know their voters are lazy POS. If someone doesn’t do it for them then they’re not going to vote and the Democrats will never win another election.

While there’s some truth to both statements neither is really true
 
I refuse to believe the country I love, America, let a Presidential Election be "stolen" until I see solid evidence. I dont believe we as country can be that corrupt/incompetent. Of course there's a chance I am wrong but I really hope not.
So you don't believe Russian influence caused Hillary to lose in 2016?
 
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I refuse to believe the country I love, America, let a Presidential Election be "stolen" until I see solid evidence. I dont believe we as country can be that corrupt/incompetent. Of course there's a chance I am wrong but I really hope not.
Open your eyes. It is right there in front of you.

Phantom water leaks
Suitcases hidden under tables
Telling poll workers to leave and then start counting again
Blocking vote counting with cardboard on windows
Counties with 105% turnout
Super early calls on states that were too close to call
Ballots with no down ballot votes all for slow joe.

Time to watermark every absentee ballot and make it hard to cheat. For the love of the country and everything.
 
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First, nothing is gonna happen from all of this. I've already expressed we should just move on.

But I'm also of the belief that a totally neutral third party could audit all 50 states, and if they found massive fraud indicating that Joe did not win, and Trump did, the Dems would not accept it. Each side is getting more and more where they don't want to accept the results. And it's funny to watch each side act as if they somehow do not act as poorly as the other. In 2016, Dems lost their mind and tried to undo Trump his entire Presidency. Now the Republicans are losing their mind, looking for ways to undo Biden. It's sad what we've become.
 
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