Arizona Election Audit

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hUTch2002 said:
Speaking of fantasies, hopefully you don’t carry this definition of begging over to any interactions with women. That delusion likely wouldn’t end well for you. I’m simply trying to help you work through your issue of not being able to let it go. There was a plan to get rid of Trump. That one didn’t work but the one executed after the virus came along did. Enjoy the fact the left won and let Trump go.
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I guess all the sophomoric, goading comments trying to get me to engage with your fabulist ******** are being shoved up the same memory hole as the entire predicate for the Mueller investigation.

It’ll have plenty of company company since you’re also ignoring the reality that you brought up Mueller/Trump and have been begging me to argue with you about it for the better part of a week while I keep telling you I’m not interested and am happy to let you just continue to be wrong. I’m sure the identity of the person who brought it up is just a matter of opinion. 😂

But sure, you’re totally not living in an alternate reality. 😂🤣😂🤣
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I guess all the sophomoric, goading comments trying to get me to engage with your fabulist ******** are being shoved up the same memory hole as the entire predicate for the Mueller investigation.

It’ll have plenty of company company since you’re also ignoring the reality that you brought up Mueller/Trump and have been begging me to argue with you about it for the better part of a week while I keep telling you I’m not interested and am happy to let you just continue to be wrong. I’m sure the identity of the person who brought it up is just a matter of opinion. 😂

But sure, you’re totally not living in an alternate reality. 😂🤣😂🤣
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And you responded again. I guess the goading worked.
 
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Septic said:
I keep waiting for breaking news that the smoking gun has been presented in court that shows definitively that there was massive, widespread fraud and collusion to cover it up.

I'm starting to think I should have packed a lunch.
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Nah, you're fine. Just let us know if the light starts growing dim.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Is all of your news from some random twitter guy with 600 followers?
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I don't do Twitter but I'm sure I could pick some random dude to follow and the news would be just as reliable as your mainstream media. I follow a few channels on Telegram who I feel are reliable sources. There are 2 or 3 decent channels that are designated for covering the Arizona Audit and Kelly Ward provides regular updates.
 
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VolinWayne said:
I don't do Twitter but I'm sure I could pick some random dude to follow and the news would be just as reliable as your mainstream media. I follow a few channels on Telegram who I feel are reliable sources. There are 2 or 3 decent channels that are designated for covering the Arizona Audit and Kelly Ward provides regular updates.
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So, the mainstream media isn't credible... but Q'Anon conspiracy theory promoters like Kelli Ward are worth following? Makes perfect sense (if you're an idiot).
 
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Septic said:
I keep waiting for breaking news that the smoking gun has been presented in court that shows definitively that there was massive, widespread fraud and collusion to cover it up.

I'm starting to think I should have packed a lunch.
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It is a pretty good grift these folks have going on.

Start: I think there is massive voter fraud going on, let's check it out!

Then: Checking it out. No proof of fraud. Audit it again. Again, no proof of fraud. Audit it again, only this time let a private company do it so we can compromise the voter information from that state while coming to the conclusion that it was not fraudulent, only so now the voter rolls could be subject to outside influence. Check.

Now: Our voter rolls have now been shown to anyone with a basic understanding of hacking, HOW DARE JOE BIDEN allow this to be allowed.

Later: BIDEN supported voter registration be released to the Chinese!!!!!!!!
 
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VolinWayne said:
I don't do Twitter but I'm sure I could pick some random dude to follow and the news would be just as reliable as your mainstream media. I follow a few channels on Telegram who I feel are reliable sources. There are 2 or 3 decent channels that are designated for covering the Arizona Audit and Kelly Ward provides regular updates.
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When you say "you feel are reliable sources" do you really mean "sources that confirm my bias?" Because given everything I've ever seen you trot out, fringe and looney would be the two adjectives I'd use to describe them. Kelly Ward Qanon wacko being no exception.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
It is a pretty good grift these folks have going on.

Start: I think there is massive voter fraud going on, let's check it out!

Then: Checking it out. No proof of fraud. Audit it again. Again, no proof of fraud. Audit it again, only this time let a private company do it so we can compromise the voter information from that state while coming to the conclusion that it was not fraudulent, only so now the voter rolls could be subject to outside influence. Check.

Now: Our voter rolls have now been shown to anyone with a basic understanding of hacking, HOW DARE JOE BIDEN allow this to be allowed.

Later: BIDEN supported voter registration be released to the Chinese!!!!!!!!
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It's not a grift or some conspiracy theory. Fraud happened and it is being exposed and Arizona will be the first domino to fall.

Did you know that in a tiny town called Windham New Hampshire a Democrat candidate lost by a razor thin margin and demanded a hand recount. After completing the hand recount they discovered that each one of the Republican candidates got shorted approximately 300 points. This sparked a lot of curiosity and the entire town demanded a forensic audit. There was a huge uproar and fight between the people of Windham and the board of electors on who would perform the audit. The people demanded they use Jovan Pulitzer bit the county refused. After doing a forensic audit they discovered a few machines shorted Republicans every time.

BREAKING: New Hampshire Audit Confirms Voting Machines Results Unreliable


A judge in GA has ordered a hand recount of all absentee ballots in Fulton County GA

 
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Sandman 423 said:
If you could imagine me coughing while saying hypocrite, I would appreciate it.
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You're probably drawing another equivalency from the probe into possible collusion between the 2016 Trump Campaign and Russian agents, with the Q'Anon based conspiracy theories. They don't have the first thing in common. For one thing, it's a provable fact that Russia was responsible for hacking the DNC in 2016, and it is also a fact that members of the 2016 Trump Campaign (Trump Jr., Kushner and Manafort) did meet with Natalia Veselnitskaya and other Russian operatives in Trump Tower on June 9, 2016 to discuss dirt on Hillary Clinton. Both Trump and Trump Jr. told lies about what was discussed in this meeting, as well as who was in attendance. Also, per the United States Treasury Department, we now have a direct link between the 2016 Trump Campaign and Russian agents. Rick Gates, a top aide to Paul Manafort, gave Konstantin Kolimnik sensitive polling data and campaign information. In turn, Kolimnik gave this information to Russian agents, who used it to smear Hillary Clinton on social media. Finally, we also now know that Manafort lied about this to federal investigators. Manafort had previously said that NOTHING was given to Kolimnik by the 2016 Trump Campaign. So.. we have still more lies.

If you see any comparison to that with the fantasy land of Q'Anon.... then you can imagine me laughing my ass off at you as well.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You're probably drawing another equivalency from the probe into possible collusion between the 2016 Trump Campaign and Russian agents, with the Q'Anon based conspiracy theories. They don't have the first thing in common. For one thing, it's a provable fact that Russia was responsible for hacking the DNC in 2016, and it is also a fact that members of the 2016 Trump Campaign (Trump Jr., Kushner and Manafort) did meet with Natalia Veselnitskaya and other Russian operatives in Trump Tower on June 9, 2016 to discuss dirt on Hillary Clinton. Both Trump and Trump Jr. told lies about what was discussed in this meeting, as well as who was in attendance. Also, per the United States Treasury Department, we now have a direct link between the 2016 Trump Campaign and Russian agents. Rick Gates, a top aide to Paul Manafort, gave Konstantin Kolimnik sensitive polling data and campaign information. In turn, Kolimnik gave this information to Russian agents, who used it to smear Hillary Clinton on social media. Finally, we also now know that Manafort lied about this to federal investigators. Manafort had previously said that NOTHING was given to Kolimnik by the 2016 Trump Campaign. So.. we have still more lies.

If you see any comparison to that with the fantasy land of Q'Anon.... then you can imagine me laughing my ass off at you as well.
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BowlBrother85 said:
You're probably drawing another equivalency from the probe into possible collusion between the 2016 Trump Campaign and Russian agents, with the Q'Anon based conspiracy theories. They don't have the first thing in common. For one thing, it's a provable fact that Russia was responsible for hacking the DNC in 2016, and it is also a fact that members of the 2016 Trump Campaign (Trump Jr., Kushner and Manafort) did meet with Natalia Veselnitskaya and other Russian operatives in Trump Tower on June 9, 2016 to discuss dirt on Hillary Clinton. Both Trump and Trump Jr. told lies about what was discussed in this meeting, as well as who was in attendance. Also, per the United States Treasury Department, we now have a direct link between the 2016 Trump Campaign and Russian agents. Rick Gates, a top aide to Paul Manafort, gave Konstantin Kolimnik sensitive polling data and campaign information. In turn, Kolimnik gave this information to Russian agents, who used it to smear Hillary Clinton on social media. Finally, we also now know that Manafort lied about this to federal investigators. Manafort had previously said that NOTHING was given to Kolimnik by the 2016 Trump Campaign. So.. we have still more lies.

If you see any comparison to that with the fantasy land of Q'Anon.... then you can imagine me laughing my ass off at you as well.
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It appears to me that you so badly want want all the transparency to go away, and everyone to just accept things the way they are. Actually, we ALL want things to go back to the way where we all had confidence in our elections. Hoping the conspiracists just shut up is common when your side benefits. If things were reversed, you would be screaming election interference at the top of your lungs like you did with the so-called Russian interference conspiracy. There is plenty of hypocrisy to go around from BOTH parties!
 
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Counting has been going on for more than a month. About done?

Remember when Trump said that if a winner couldn't be called within a couple hours of the polls closing (election night), the whole process was illegitimate?
 
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StillStanding said:
It appears to me that you so badly want want all the transparency to go away, and everyone to just accept things the way they are. Actually, we ALL want things to go back to the way where we all had confidence in our elections. Hoping the conspiracists just shut up is common when your side benefits. If things were reversed, you would be screaming election interference at the top of your lungs like you did with the so-called Russian interference conspiracy. There is plenty of hypocrisy to go around from BOTH parties!
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That is not true. I have never said that Trump's victory in 2016 was illegitimate. I do believe that Russian agents were given sensitive campaign information from the Trump Campaign, which was weaponized to smear Hillary Clinton on social media... but I am the first to admit that there is nothing to indicate that this changed any votes. Trump would have won the 2016 election without any assistance from Russia. I have said that many times, and in many different threads over the last 4 1/2 years.

I also believe that the outcome of the 2020 presidential election was valid as well. A free and fair election was held, with the results counted, re-counted and even audited. Biden won. Trump signaled his intentions to blame cheating/fraud well-ahead of both general elections, so he would have a running excuse for losing. Trump even accused the Ted Cruz Campaign of cheating to win the 2016 Iowa Caucuses (without ever explaining how they had cheated).

Basically, there isn't a scenario under which Donald Trump could ever lose an election, without completely attributing his defeat to illicit activity; either by the opposing campaign, or corrupt election officials. This is simply how a narcissist handles defeat. It couldn't possibly have been a legitimate election, if Trump lost.
 
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