Ashli Babbitt’s Killer is a blm Militant

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loggervol said:
You know what I meant. You are just trying to change the narrative to fit your agenda.

Thanks for throwing in the race card though. When race shouldn’t matter in this situation. If he was working in or during the riots, he would have been called a Uncle Tom or a coon. Just because he was working with the police. Something to think about right..??
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There is a clear racial divide at work here, but I don't think the inconsistency from the right is racially motivated. Ashli Babbitt is garnering more sympathy than she frankly deserved, because the right-wing feels a sense of kinship with her cause (as hopeless and misguided as it was). At the heart of her illegal conduct on January 6th, was bitter disappointment with Trump's defeat. Most people on the right can identify with that, much more than they could the grievances of Black Lives Matter protestors.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is a clear racial divide at work here, but I don't think the inconsistency from the right is racially motivated. Ashli Babbitt is garnering more sympathy than she frankly deserved, because the right-wing feels a sense of kinship with her cause (as hopeless and misguided as it was). At the heart of her illegal conduct on January 6th, was bitter disappointment with Trump's defeat. Most people on the right can identify with that, much more than they could the grievances of Black Lives Matter protestors.
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I thought blm was for equal execution of the law. I thought this was the very reason for the riots in the first place.
 
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loggervol said:
I thought blm was for equal execution of the law. I thought this was the very reason for the riots in the first place.
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Equal protection under the law, yes.

You should be able to see the difference in how Trump and right-wing media have discussed the January 6th rioters, versus how they discussed the rioters following the death of George Floyd. Clearly, there is a significant difference in sympathy. I don't think that difference is racially motivated, but rather, a reflection of kinship with the Capitol rioter's cause.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Equal protection under the law, yes.

You should be able to see the difference in how Trump and right-wing media have discussed the January 6th rioters, versus how they discussed the rioters following the death of George Floyd. Clearly, there is a significant difference in sympathy. I don't think that difference is racially motivated, but rather, a reflection of kinship with the Capitol rioter's cause.
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So Ashli Babbitt doesn’t deserve the same protection?

Yes, one was out of his mind on drugs, had just tried to pass counterfeit money, and asked the cops to put him on the ground. I don’t agree with how it was handled by the cop and he was prosecuted for his crime.

And, the other was a unarmed, 125 pound white woman. Who’s only crime was simple trespassing. So, she should have equal protection under the law.
 
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loggervol said:
So Ashli Babbitt doesn’t deserve the same protection?

Yes, one was out of his mind on drugs, had just tried to pass counterfeit money, and asked the cops to put him on the ground. I don’t agree with how it was handled by the cop and he was prosecuted for his crime.

And, the other was a unarmed, 125 pound white woman. Who’s only crime was simple trespassing. So, she should have equal protection under the law.
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Why did you find it pertinent to identify her as being a "white woman"? As if her being white, diminished the threat she posed...

More importantly, why did the OP describe Michael Byrd as being "a blm militant" in the title of this thread? I have been searching for some sign of affiliation between Byrd and Black Lives Matter, but can't find anything. Why make up something like that, unless you have an agenda consisting of something other than telling the truth?

If you do a Google search of "Capitol Police Officer Michael Byrd, Black Lives Matter" the only link you will see is to this thread on VolNation.com. That's just great, isn't it?
 
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loggervol said:
So Ashli Babbitt doesn’t deserve the same protection?

Yes, one was out of his mind on drugs, had just tried to pass counterfeit money, and asked the cops to put him on the ground. I don’t agree with how it was handled by the cop and he was prosecuted for his crime.

And, the other was a unarmed, 125 pound white woman. Who’s only crime was simple trespassing. So, she should have equal protection under the law.
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Will you lecture Trump for his thoughts on these things? If not you are a massive hypocrite.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Why did you find it pertinent to identify her as being a "white woman"? As if her being white, diminished the threat she posed...

More importantly, why did the OP describe Michael Byrd as being "a blm militant" in the title of this thread? I have been searching for some sign of affiliation between Byrd and Black Lives Matter, but can't find anything. Why make up something like that, unless you have an agenda consisting of something other than telling the truth?

If you do a Google search of "Capitol Police Officer Michael Byrd, Black Lives Matter" the only link you will see is to this thread on VolNation.com. That's just great, isn't it?
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Why should there be a difference in unarmed white or black. Does your argument have to be about race? I would feel the same no matter the race of Ashli Babbitt. And, I would also feel the same, no matter the race of the officer that pulled the trigger.

I have no idea. Only Michael Byrd knows the reason he pulled the trigger.

I’m sorry, I don’t believe everything that’s posted on volnation.
 
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volfanhill said:
Will you lecture Trump for his thoughts on these things? If not you are a massive hypocrite.
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What part are referring to? And, when has President Trump ever put anyone’s life before another’s? What makes you think any politician would listen to me?
 
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loggervol said:
Why should there be a difference in unarmed white or black. Does your argument have to be about race? I would feel the same no matter the race of Ashli Babbitt. And, I would also feel the same, no matter the race of the officer that pulled the trigger.

I have no idea. Only Michael Byrd knows the reason he pulled the trigger.

I’m sorry, I don’t believe everything that’s posted on volnation.
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I totally agree. I was asking why you felt it necessary to mention Ashli Babbitt's race was white?
 
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loggervol said:
What part are referring to? And, when has President Trump ever put anyone’s life before another’s? What makes you think any politician would listen to me?
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Looting and shooting is Trumps MO. You can twist the situation however you want. Trumps pro shooting in this instance. All you need to know is what he says. Now if you are good with the shooting of unarmed black folks then you should be good with this. It's not hard. Or it could piss you off ever time an unarmed victim is killed by cops. That's my stance .
 
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volfanhill said:
Looting and shooting is Trumps MO. You can twist the situation however you want. Trumps pro shooting in this instance. All you need to know is what he says. Now if you are good with the shooting of unarmed black folks then you should be good with this. It's not hard. Or it could piss you off ever time an unarmed victim is killed by cops. That's my stance .
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I think the killing of any unarmed person is wrong. I’m sorry, I don’t think that cops are waking up in the morning with the thought of killing anyone. There’s good cops and bad cops of different races. The only way to get rid of the bad ones is by identifying who they are. But, defunding the police is one of or maybe the dumbest things that could ever happen.

Does that answer your question?


So you agree that the killing of a unarmed AB is wrong..??

I also will add that resisting arrest and fighting with the law puts whoever’s life at risk.
 
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loggervol said:
I think she was a white woman if I’m not mistaken. Jut stating the obvious.
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I'm asking why you felt it was necessary to mention her race, though? By mentioning her weight (you said she was 125 lbs), you were clearly assessing Ashli Babbitt as a physical threat to the police officer who shot her. Otherwise, her weight was immaterial to the discussion. You then followed that up by telling us that she was white, as if that was also a factor in the threat level she presented to the police. Do you believe that Babbitt being white, instead of black, reduced the threat level she posed? It seems like that was what you were driving at... although, perhaps subconsciously.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
With all of the lawlessness going on that day, the UNARMED Ashli Babbitt killer cop is the ONLY one that fired a gun.
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When Donald Trump said, "When the looting starts, the shooting starts," did he actually mean the "armed looting", because that's not what he said? The shooting of Ashli Babbitt has brought an inconsistency from the right-wing into focus. Simply put, the right is more sympathetic to unarmed white people shot during the commission of a crime, than unarmed black people.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
When Donald Trump said, "When the looting starts, the shooting starts," did he actually mean the "armed looting", because that's not what he said? The shooting of Ashli Babbitt has brought an inconsistency from the right-wing into focus. Simply put, the right is more sympathetic to unarmed white people shot during the commission of a crime, than unarmed black people.
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The only person responsible for Ashli being gunned down is Michael Byrd.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
The only person responsible for Ashli being gunned down is Michael Byrd.
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^^^ Nothing demonstrates the inconsistency better than this post.

Ashli Babbitt was in violation of the law at the time she was shot. She was attempting to forcibly enter an area restricted to the public, while on federal property. If she had just remained outside of the U.S. Capitol, and peacefully protested as many others did, she would not have been shot. Sorry, but she bears responsibility for what happened to her.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
^^^ Nothing demonstrates the inconsistency better than this post.

Ashli Babbitt was in violation of the law at the time she was shot. She was attempting to forcibly enter an area restricted to the public, while on federal property. If she had just remained outside of the U.S. Capitol, and peacefully protested as many others did, she would not have been shot. Sorry, but she bears responsibility for what happened to her.
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If George Floyd had complied with the cops he would still be alive. So GF bears the responsibility and not the cop?
 
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