Ashli Babbitt’s Killer is a blm Militant

[BowlBrother85]

If George Floyd had complied with the cops he would still be alive. So GF bears the responsibility and not the cop?

George Floyd bears responsibility for his arrest, but the video clearly shows that Floyd wasn't resisting arrest for the 9 minutes that Derek Chauvin was kneeling on the back of his neck. In fact, it appears that Floyd was unconscious and incapable of resisting for at least the last 3 of those minutes. Unlike Ashli Babbitt, who was attempting to forcibly enter an area restricted to the public, at a time when members of Congress were being evacuated from that same area. She still posed a threat during the moments immediately preceding her death. Floyd did not.

 

[volfanhill]

When Donald Trump said, "When the looting starts, the shooting starts," did he actually mean the "armed looting", because that's not what he said? The shooting of Ashli Babbitt has brought an inconsistency from the right-wing into focus. Simply put, the right is more sympathetic to unarmed white people shot during the commission of a crime, than unarmed black people.

I don't think it's a race thing. They are more sympathetic to people of their own political persuasion.

 

[volfanhill]

The only person responsible for Ashli being gunned down is Michael Byrd.

If your child told you they were going to forcibly break into the US capitol would you not advise that they may get shot? I would. So yes the cop shouldn't have shot her. Should go to the grand jury. But you have to have the IQ of a sock puppet to not think it a possibility. Like looting a target. Are you really that shocked you got shot? And if you are surprised by police using over the top force in this country then you haven't been paying attention.

 

[tnmarktx]

George Floyd bears responsibility for his arrest, but the video clearly shows that Floyd wasn't resisting arrest for the 9 minutes that Derek Chauvin was kneeling on the back of his neck. In fact, it appears that Floyd was unconscious and incapable of resisting for at least the last 3 of those minutes. Unlike Ashli Babbitt, who was attempting to forcibly enter an area restricted to the public, at a time when members of Congress were being evacuated from that same area. She still posed a threat during the moments immediately preceding her death. Floyd did not.

What threat did she pose?

 

[loggervol]

I'm asking why you felt it was necessary to mention her race, though? By mentioning her weight (you said she was 125 lbs), you were clearly assessing Ashli Babbitt as a physical threat to the police officer who shot her. Otherwise, her weight was immaterial to the discussion. You then followed that up by telling us that she was white, as if that was also a factor in the threat level she presented to the police. Do you believe that Babbitt being white, instead of black, reduced the threat level she posed? It seems like that was what you were driving at... although, perhaps subconsciously.

Why did you assume that a young black woman wouldn’t get as much sympathy from most of the people posting on this thread? If it was the same situation. You are looking so hard for something to be offended about.

What about the black ex police chief that was shot in the head for watching his friends pawn shop? Who’s been brought up on charges over his death? Do you think they’ve investigated that crime enough? I don’t, his family deserves justice also.

 

[clarksvol00]

George Floyd bears responsibility for his arrest, but the video clearly shows that Floyd wasn't resisting arrest for the 9 minutes that Derek Chauvin was kneeling on the back of his neck. In fact, it appears that Floyd was unconscious and incapable of resisting for at least the last 3 of those minutes. Unlike Ashli Babbitt, who was attempting to forcibly enter an area restricted to the public, at a time when members of Congress were being evacuated from that same area. She still posed a threat during the moments immediately preceding her death. Floyd did not.

I've always maintained nobody would have an issue if you had the same scenario, but replaced "the Speakers Lobby" with "the Oval Office" and the "members of Congress" with the "sitting president."

 

[BayVol7]

Where did BayVol go?

Probably busy trying to find that utopia where he or she can live in “diversity and love.”

It was KTown King. I’m sure BayVol has another handle too

I’ve been beyond busy FTR.
Also, I’ve noticed the racial tone on this board has changed a great deal. !

 

[GreyWolf1129]

Let's change the scenario...make it the Georgia State House, or California, or your local county or city center of government. A State Trooper, or Deputy Sheriff, or municipal Police Officer fires that shot, under those exact same circumstances.

You okay with that? Personally, I'm not.

I wasn't there, but based on the video we've all seen, this is not a legitimate use of deadly force. And if it's not, then it's something else. Voluntary Manslaughter comes to mind. Had that been my county courthouse, and me...I'd have already been indicted and arrested.

And rightfully so...

 

[BowlBrother85]

Why did you assume that a young black woman wouldn’t get as much sympathy from most of the people posting on this thread? If it was the same situation. You are looking so hard for something to be offended about.

What about the black ex police chief that was shot in the head for watching his friends pawn shop? Who’s been brought up on charges over his death? Do you think they’ve investigated that crime enough? I don’t, his family deserves justice also.

You still aren't answering the question:

While you were making a case that Ashli Babbitt didn't pose a threat to Officer Michael Byrd, at the time he shot her (by describing her as only weighing 125 lbs), you also described Babbitt as being white, as though her race made her even more harmless than just having a petite stature.

Is that because, in general, you consider a white woman to be less physically imposing to a police officer, than a black woman?

 

[loggervol]

You still aren't answering the question:

While you were making a case that Ashli Babbitt didn't pose a threat to Officer Michael Byrd, at the time he shot her (by describing her as only weighing 125 lbs), you also described Babbitt as being white, as though her race made her even more harmless than just having a petite stature.

Is that because, in general, you consider a white woman to be less physically imposing to a police officer, than a black woman?

She was white, I’m sorry if that’s not a good enough answer for you.

 

[BowlBrother85]

She was white, I’m sorry if that’s not a good enough answer for you.

You were making the case that she wasn't a threat to the officer who shot her... and you used her race as a reason why you didn't consider her to be a threat... along with her diminutive stature.

 

[InVOLuntary]

He shot a killed an UnArmed woman who stood 5 foot 2 inches tall and weighed 125 pounds.

Anyone that trys and justifies this is 100% POS human being.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Nah, I couldn’t qualify.

Yeah, that's a Democrat thing.

 

[Tyler Durden]

They should erect a 30 foot statue of the man who did the deed in Babbitt's hometown.

 

[loggervol]

You were making the case that she wasn't a threat to the officer who shot her... and you used her race as a reason why you didn't consider her to be a threat... along with her diminutive stature.

Dude, you don’t know me but you are still making assumptions. Has it become so bad that you think everyone has ulterior motive.

Since you keep bringing race into the equation. And your assumptions keep going a certain way. If she would have been a black woman, The cop would have already been brought up on charges.

Hey, keep imagining whatever you will though.

 

[BowlBrother85]

If your child told you they were going to forcibly break into the US capitol would you not advise that they may get shot? I would. So yes the cop shouldn't have shot her. Should go to the grand jury. But you have to have the IQ of a sock puppet to not think it a possibility. Like looting a target. Are you really that shocked you got shot? And if you are surprised by police using over the top force in this country then you haven't been paying attention.

Byrd had his gun pointed at Babbitt for several seconds before firing, and yet she persisted in trying to breach the barricaded door. She either thought he was bluffing, or she felt a false sense of security from within the mob mentality of, "They can't shoot us all, so they wont shoot anyone," mindset. Either way, her conduct was reckless and stupid.

 

[BowlBrother85]

What threat did she pose?

She was trying to force her way into a restricted area of the Capitol, in close proximity to where members of Congress were being evacuated. What would Babbitt have done if she had come face to face with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (for example)? We are left to speculate, but I doubt that it would have been anything good.

 

[norrislakevol]

They should erect a 30 foot statue of the man who did the deed in Babbitt's hometown.

We definitely need to erect a statue of Kyle Rittenhouse. Nice shootin' Tex! Pretty sure the dude he brained had sexually assaulted a child in the past. Kyle did us a great service by getting rid of that person.

See: Two can play at this game.

 

[JOEY'S ALL VOL !!!]

They should erect a 30 foot statue of the man who did the deed in Babbitt's hometown.

Seriously ? That’s what you’ve got ?

They should ban your sorry ass ! You bring nothing to the board but ignorance.

 

[hog88]

You still aren't answering the question:

While you were making a case that Ashli Babbitt didn't pose a threat to Officer Michael Byrd, at the time he shot her (by describing her as only weighing 125 lbs), you also described Babbitt as being white, as though her race made her even more harmless than just having a petite stature.

Is that because, in general, you consider a white woman to be less physically imposing to a police officer, than a black woman?

There were 2 officers outside the window within 3-4 feet of her, if they didn’t see her as a threat deserving deadly force Byrd wasn’t in danger.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Seriously ? That’s what you’ve got ?

They should ban your sorry ass ! You bring nothing to the board but ignorance.

He protected our nation from a terrorist. Build the man a statue.

 

[tnmarktx]

She was trying to force her way into a restricted area of the Capitol, in close proximity to where members of Congress were being evacuated. What would Babbitt have done if she had come face to face with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (for example)? We are left to speculate, but I doubt that it would have been anything good.

That's purely conjecture on your part. The fact is she was unarmed, you have stated that you are against the killing of unarmed people by the police in this thread. Why is this situation different?

 

[Septic]

I've always maintained nobody would have an issue if you had the same scenario, but replaced "the Speakers Lobby" with "the Oval Office" and the "members of Congress" with the "sitting president."

Good point.

 

[Septic]

Seriously ? That’s what you’ve got ?

They should ban your sorry ass ! You bring nothing to the board but ignorance.

Why? Statues aren't symbols of oppression, they're a symbol of history.

 

[bamawriter]

Why did you assume that a young black woman wouldn’t get as much sympathy from most of the people posting on this thread? If it was the same situation. You are looking so hard for something to be offended about.

I saw what some folks were posting about Breonna Taylor, so I certainly question whether the outrage would be as potent if we were dealing with different races.