Atheists "Hijack" Nativity in Santa Monica

[MUR73]

Unless you're also better than his mama.

He's def NOT.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Wrong, there is no need for a special descriptor of things we don't believe in. Are you an achristian? I am, but why am I not labeled as such? I don't believe in christianity. Period.

There is no special descriptor for a plethora of things you or I don't believe in.

Context calls for particular descriptors. None will be applicable to all issues. Where these guys stood vis a vis the nativity absolutely mattered to this issue.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Whew! It was going to be tiresome labeling everyone an aunicorn, atoothfairy, aleprechaun, akeeblerelf , aeasterbunny, asantaclause, ...........

In a story about St Nick, asanta is a perfect descriptor.

 

[KiffinKiller]

I wrote the bible. it was a cruel joke. Im sorry.

 

[rjd970]

Why would that be necessary? If someone asks you what color you think the sky is, do you respond with "It's not red, orange, yellow, purple, etc?" No, you say it's blue. Likewise, if someone asks if you believe there is a God, you answer "no". You don't go through the list of every religion you can think of an proclaim yourself a non-believer in each.

Exactly, the descriptor is a label for things we believe in, not what we dont' believe in.

Do you believe in Christianity? Yes.

Do I believe in Christianity? No. I'm not labled an "achristian".

Do I believe in a deity? No. So why label me an atheist?

 

[BigPapaVol]

Exactly, the descriptor is a label for things we believe in, not what we dont' believe in.

Do you believe in Christianity? Yes.

Do I believe in Christianity? No. I'm not labled an "achristian".

Do I believe in a deity? No. So why label me an atheist?

Because it's more informative than saying you aren't a Christian.

 

[rjd970]

Context calls for particular descriptors. None will be applicable to all issues. Where these guys stood vis a vis the nativity absolutely mattered to this issue.

So you are an Aislamist, provided the right context?

When has that descriptor ever been used?

 

[n_huffhines]

Exactly, the descriptor is a label for things we believe in, not what we dont' believe in.

Do you believe in Christianity? Yes.

Do I believe in Christianity? No. I'm not labled an "achristian".

Do I believe in a deity? No. So why label me an atheist?

I wouldn't. I would label you agnostic. Once you believe there is no God, you become atheist.

 

[rjd970]

Because it's more informative than saying you aren't a Christian.

Why does that matter? The people in the article are achristian, which is more relative to the given story.

 

[bamawriter]

Do I believe in a deity? No. So why label me an atheist?

Because you believe there is no deity, and "atheist" is the English word for those who believe there is no deity. It has nothing to do with your beliefs relative to any other religion?

And why do you care so much about the word "atheist"? Is it not an apt label?

 

[lumberjack4]

The real question is why do Christians celebrate Jesus's birthday with pagan rituals? Does that not strike anyone as odd and hypocritical?

 

[BigPapaVol]

So you are an Aislamist, provided the right context?

When has that descriptor ever been used?

See, I don't care if you use it wrt me.

 

[therealUT]

No Christian believes anyway; they just proclaim to have faith. However, if they had even the smallest amount of faith, say the size of a mustard seed, they could command the mountains to move.

 

[bamawriter]

Why does that matter? The people in the article are achristian, which is more relative to the given story.

No, they are atheists who are espousing anti-Christian views via their display.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Why does that matter? The people in the article are achristian, which is more relative to the given story.

Atheistic tells me that they aren't another, competing religion. Why two steps when one will do?

 

[therealUT]

No, they are atheists who are espousing anti-Christian views via their display.

Good; and the Christians responding by vandalizing their property.

 

[n_huffhines]

The real question is why do Christians celebrate Jesus's birthday with pagan rituals? Does that not strike anyone as odd and hypocritical?

I think it has to do with integrating converts to Christianity. I believe a lot of that influence came from that Roman Emperor who forced everyone to be Christian. The name escapes me right now.

 

[BigPapaVol]

No Christian believes anyway; they just proclaim to have faith. However, if they had even the smallest amount of faith, say the size of a mustard seed, they could command the mountains to move.

Implied response from God is absurd.

 

[rjd970]

See, I don't care if you use it wrt me.

I understand, but in normal conversation that descriptor is never used. Bottomline is there isn't a descriptor for every thing we don't believe in. We make a special rule for God.

At the end of the day I don't really care, I just think "atheist" is a word that shouldn't even exist.

 

[bamawriter]

Good; and the Christians responding by vandalizing their property.

The guilty should be punished. I'm not a fan of breaking the law.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I understand, but in normal conversation that descriptor is never used. Bottomline is there isn't a descriptor for every thing we don't believe in. We make a special rule for God.

At the end of the day I don't really care, I just think "atheist" is a word that shouldn't even exist.

Who made a special rule?

 

[therealUT]

Implied response from God is absurd.

Why is it absurd for a Christian to believe that they could move a mountain if they actually believed in Christ? Christ said so himself.

If you think such an act is absurd, then you admit you do not have faith.

 

[bamawriter]

At the end of the day I don't really care, I just think "atheist" is a word that shouldn't even exist.

Why not? It is the word for an active belief that there is no deity of any kind, as opposed to not believing in a deity but acknowledging that the possibility exists.

 

[lumberjack4]

I think it has to do with integrating converts to Christianity. I believe a lot of that influence came from that Roman Emperor who forced everyone to be Christian. The name escapes me right now.

I understand why Constantine did it, but that doesn't change the fact that their sacred Christmas traditions are pagan, which by definition isn't Christian. It'd be like me cheering on Tennessee by screaming "Rammer Jammer". It makes no sense.

 

[therealUT]

Who made a special rule?

Not sure who made the rule; however, the term atheist has been coined and used throughout history in order to round up those who did not believe so as to persecute them.