Atlanta Braves II

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You can't say bye to the face of the franchise when he just 18 homers and a .350 OBP. You just can't.

Whether he retires or not, he needs to clam up about leadership and guys needing to step up and everything else he said the last month. Chipper's last two weeks going into tonight: .214, .302 OBP. 0 for 5 with three Ks tonight in an elimination game. He gagged as badly as everybody else.
 
I really do hear what you're saying. In theory you might be right, but the problem is I don't think Beachy has come out of the pen all year and he's a kid.

He's a kid who struck out almost 11 hitters per 9 innings this year. It's idiocy to go down with your seventh best reliever on the mound without even getting Beachy in the game.
 
ESPN/AP summary


Braves lose lead in 9th, fall in 13 to cap collapse

ATLANTA -- With the season on the line, the Atlanta Braves couldn't get the final three outs.

Now, they'll have the whole winter to ponder an unprecedented collapse.
Braves closer Craig Kimbrel surrendered the tying run in the ninth, and Hunter Pence came through with a two-out, run-scoring single in the 13th to give the Philadelphia Phillies a 4-3 victory that ended the Braves season Wednesday night without a trip to the playoffs that looked like a certainty just a few weeks ago.

The game ended more than an hour after St. Louis routed Houston 8-0 to claim at least a share of the wild card. The Cardinals earned it outright when David Herndon earned his first career save by getting Freddie Freeman to hit into a season-ending double play.

This one might hurt as bad as all those postseason losses in the 1990s and early 2000s.

The Braves were 10 1/2 games ahead of St. Louis before play on Aug. 26. They were still up by 8 1/2 games on the morning of Sept. 6. Instead of popping champagne for a second straight trip to the playoffs, they became the first team in major league history to blow a lead of at least eight games for a playoff spot in September.

They might have company if Boston does the same in the AL.

But that would be of little consolation in Atlanta.

The Braves had this one. And they blew it, losing five straight to end the regular season and going 9-18 in the final month
 
He's a kid who struck out almost 11 hitters per 9 innings this year. It's idiocy to go down with your seventh best reliever on the mound without even getting Beachy in the game.

Like I keep saying . . . you've got a point, but it's hard for me to get worked up about who was in the game in light of how completely fluky the game winning hit was.
 
He's a kid who struck out almost 11 hitters per 9 innings this year. It's idiocy to go down with your seventh best reliever on the mound without even getting Beachy in the game.

Or Aroyds Vizcaino. You know, he ain't half bad.
 
I feel like the Red Sox and the Braves should get together for a picnic or something.

We can play "Who knows how to be an awesome closer till the last day of the season" with Kimbrel and Papelbon.
 
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