Atlanta Braves Thread - The "John Hart/ John Coppollela da real MVPs" Edition

[vols 30]

You were in the military? My pops was in the Coast Guard. He loved San Diego but my mom hated it.

Navy. I loved San Diego too. 72 degrees 24/7

 

[zjcvols]

I think my moment was in 97 or 98, Milwood threw a 2 hitter against the Pirates. First game I went to at Turner.

Millwood might be the perfect example of Leo Mazzone's greatness. Dude was an all star in Atlanta and was meh when he left

 

[vols 30]

You might have seen two players that were better than Pete Rose.

Never been to San Diego

I remember they played the Cubs one night, so Ryne Sandberg makes 3?

 

[Vercingetorix]

I think a lot has to do with what kind of player you enjoy watching. I enjoyed Tony Gwynn and Wade Boggs type of players. High average and OBP players.

I enjoy watching slap and tickle hitters as much as anyone, but they're not more valuable than the power hitters who hit 30+ homers. All the significant sluggers are more valuable that the Gwynn/Rose types.

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

You were in the military? My pops was in the Coast Guard. He loved San Diego but my mom hated it.

I didn't know your dad was in the CG, so was my uncle.

 

[vols 30]

I prefer the powet players that work counts.

That's what makes Trout so special . You get everything.

 

[White Bread]

Millwood might be the perfect example of Leo Mazzone's greatness. Dude was an all star in Atlanta and was meh when he left

Seriously though...he was an all star in 99, after that, Meh.

 

[Mr_Henley]

I was talking baseball with an old friend, and he brought up a guy I had forgotten about, but cheered harder for him than most....

Johnny Estrada.

 

[zjcvols]

I didn't know your dad was in the CG, so was my uncle.

Thought about joining at one point when I was younger actually. My dad says it's the second best decision he ever made after marrying my mom. His worst was having me

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

Thought about joining at one point when I was younger actually. My dad says it's the second best decision he ever made after marrying my mom. His worst was having me

Lol

 

[zjcvols]

I was talking baseball with an old friend, and he brought up a guy I had forgotten about, but cheered harder for him than most....

Johnny Estrada.

I was playing the sporacle braves opening day lineup game and totally forgot he was the catcher between Lopez and Mac.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Millwood might be the perfect example of Leo Mazzone's greatness. Dude was an all star in Atlanta and was meh when he left

There was never any Leo Mazzone greatness. He had three Hall of Famers who never got hurt. Then he went to Baltimore and did nothing with their pitching staff and got fired. McDowell's better than Mazzone ever was.

 

[zjcvols]

There was never any Leo Mazzone greatness. He had three Hall of Famers who never got hurt. Then he went to Baltimore and did nothing with their pitching staff and got fired. McDowell's better than Mazzone ever was.

I agree with some of that but Mazzone had some other moments. Had good bullpens without elite arms, guys like Russ Ortix, millwood. Pete Smith.

McDowell is hella good.

 

[White Bread]

I was thinking, I feel bad for the people that didn't get to watch teams with Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Javy, Chipper, Klesko. Those guys were my childhood.

 

[zjcvols]

I was thinking, I feel bad for the people that didn't get to watch teams with Maddox, Glavine, Smoltz, Javy, Chipper, Klesko. Those guys were my childhood.

For some odd reason I love Ryan Klesko. Was a ****in beast.

 

[White Bread]

For some odd reason I love Ryan Klesko. Was a ****in beast.

I loved Klesko, I remember having a hologram card of him hitting a tank lol.

I even liked Gallaraga lol

 

[Vercingetorix]

I agree with some of that but Mazzone had some other moments. Had good bullpens without elite arms, guys like Russ Ortix, millwood. Pete Smith.

McDowell is hella good.

Mazzone helped destroy Steve Avery, who should have been better than both Glavine and Smolz. He was the one with the most promise, and Cox/Mazzone killed his arm. I don't GAF about Kevin Millwood.

 

[zjcvols]

Mazzone helped destroy Steve Avery, who should have been better than both Glavine and Smolz. He was the one with the most promise, and Cox/Mazzone killed his arm. I don't GAF about Kevin Millwood.

That's fair but baseball was different too.

 

[Vercingetorix]

That's fair but baseball was different too.

It wasn't that different. The Mets had recently destroyed Dwight Gooden's arm, and Gooden could have been the greatest pitcher ever. It should have been obvious to the Braves that they needed to baby Steve Avery a little bit; he was only 21. And yet Cox and Mazzone rode him hard and killed his career. Leo Mazzone is a fraud, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[White Bread]

It wasn't that different. The Mets had recently destroyed Dwight Gooden's arm, and Gooden could have been the greatest pitcher ever. It should have been obvious to the Braves that they needed to baby Steve Avery a little bit; he was only 21. And yet Cox and Mazzone rode him hard and killed his career. Leo Mazzone is a fraud, as far as I'm concerned.

Touchy subject, huh? Lol

 

[Vercingetorix]

Touchy subject, huh? Lol

Let me jump out on a limb and guess you're not old enough to remember what Steve Avery was like in 1991.

 

[White Bread]

Let me jump out on a limb and guess you're not old enough to remember what Steve Avery was like in 1991.

Lol since that was my birth year, no.

 

[TBrown]

He hit well over .300 in 50+ post season games. I think he's one the best players to ever play.

Yikes

 

[Mr_Henley]

Good ole Mike Remlinger. DGAF about a lefty wanting a late game hit....

 

[TBrown]

Let me jump out on a limb and guess you're not old enough to remember what Steve Avery was like in 1991.

This hurts