Atlanta Police walkout

People keep arguing the extremes, but there is a middle ground to be found. Look at the officers who joined in peaceful protests over George Floyd. That is a step in the right direction. That should be an example for both sides that we can find a common ground and work together. Nothing will be solved by taking an extreme position and refusing to budge. There has to be compromise from both sides. Police need to find better, non lethal ways to deescalate situations, and people need to stop defending criminals who resist arrest. The goal should be everyone survives.

This is all just like Covid. Shut the entire country down instead of targeted responses.

We have a few ugly incidents and they're all categorized as the same type of incident, when in reality they are all very different. And from this, we've decided there is some nationwide pandemic of bad policing.
 
I don't know, I see a dead black guy with holes in his back and another cop behind the trigger.

If that's you or me, we'd be in the same predicament. Can't shoot people fleeing.
You can when they fire a "deadly weapon" at you!
 
There is enough blame to go around on both sides. The protesters on one side and the police and the lawmakers/local officials on the other. I'm just saying that with regards to the cops, they have shown no desire to meet in the middle. Leave us alone or we will quit is irresponsible.
When your Mayor and DA advocate for a felony murder charge and possible death penalty for a cop- who may have even been wrong - but was faced with an instant decision in a confrontation, I'm not sure I can blame anybody.
 
People keep arguing the extremes, but there is a middle ground to be found. Look at the officers who joined in peaceful protests over George Floyd. That is a step in the right direction. That should be an example for both sides that we can find a common ground and work together. Nothing will be solved by taking an extreme position and refusing to budge. There has to be compromise from both sides. Police need to find better, non lethal ways to deescalate situations, and people need to stop defending criminals who resist arrest. The goal should be everyone survives.
This would be amazing, but at this point I don't think its possible. The left from the start has been my way or the highway and the right is tired of hearing about it. What we need is strong leadership from top to bottom. From mayors to governors to congress to even the president. Instead of our leaders dividing and pandering they need to find ways to bring people together, but to do that they would lose money and power
 
I have never called for a board member on this site to be banned but some of the stuff you have been spouting on different threads the last couple of days in regards to police & law enforcement has been despicable and down right sickening to the men & women who leave their families everyday and put their life on the line for you & me without ever expecting a thank you.

Like all professions their are some bad apples that make people look bad but overall the vast majority of law enforcement officers are good people. The amount of disdain you have shown law enforcement is down right scary.
It tends to work itself out
 
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God forbid people who make their money off the taxpayer be questioned for murder.
It is not surprising you didn't land anywhere near my point.

You can hold cops to whatever standard you want. Give all cops who kill people the death penalty. Require 10 years of intense combat training so you can pay them 60k a year when they are done.

Do whatever, and then enjoy your world where there are no police.

My point is that your boundless sense of justice has hard stops in the real world. Those hard stops include the natural human response to danger, training cost, and the fact that large amounts of real people have to actually sign up for the job.

As it has been for my entire lifetime, the most effective way to prevent police killings is to stop ****ing with the cops when they try to arrest you. It is VIRTUALLY a surefire way for everyone to go home without bullet holes.
 
There is enough blame to go around on both sides. The protesters on one side and the police and the lawmakers/local officials on the other. I'm just saying that with regards to the cops, they have shown no desire to meet in the middle. Leave us alone or we will quit is irresponsible.

Ras you're better than that. You know it's more than that. They are getting slaughtered as the Joker's minions on a daily basis. The "defunding the police" chat is as disgusting as it comes when it's allowed to fester by liberal media and leftist politicians with low intellect.
 
There is enough blame to go around on both sides. The protesters on one side and the police and the lawmakers/local officials on the other. I'm just saying that with regards to the cops, they have shown no desire to meet in the middle. Leave us alone or we will quit is irresponsible.
The issue is the mayor and DA just a week ago fired a cop for using a deadly weapon, a taser. Yet this week when a violent criminal uses that same deadly weapon against officers the standard has changed. This was a good shooting by law, and they know it. They are bringing charges for show, they are hoping they will make a deal.
 
It is not surprising you didn't land anywhere near my point.

You can hold cops to whatever standard you want. Give all cops who kill people the death penalty. Require 10 years of intense combat training so you can pay them 60k a year when they are done.

Do whatever, and then enjoy your world where there are no police.

My point is that your boundless sense of justice has hard stops in the real world. Those hard stops include the natural human response to danger, training cost, and the fact that large amounts of real people have to actually sign up for the job.

As it has been for my entire lifetime, the most effective way to prevent police killings is to stop ****ing with the cops when they try to arrest you. It is VIRTUALLY a surefire way for everyone to go home without bullet holes.
This is so out of wack. On one point you're saying it's too expensive to train police so that they won't needlessly kill people. Then you believe it's actually necessary to have amount of police we currently do, when in all actuality it's completely unnecessary.

Finally, you're giving cops carte blanche to arrest anybody for whatever and everything will be ok as long as you just submit and let them ruin your life for no reason.

Unreal.
 
When your Mayor and DA advocate for a felony murder charge and possible death penalty for a cop- who may have even been wrong - but was faced with an instant decision in a confrontation, I'm not sure I can blame anybody.
The mayor was advocating felony murder and the death penalty?
 
This is so out of wack. On one point you're saying it's too expensive to train police so that they won't needlessly kill people. Then you believe it's actually necessary to have amount of police we currently do, when in all actuality it's completely unnecessary.

Finally, you're giving cops carte blanche to arrest anybody for whatever and everything will be ok as long as you just submit and let them ruin your life for no reason.

Unreal.
Can you name one person who has been arrested for no reason, no crime?
 
This is so out of wack. On one point you're saying it's too expensive to train police so that they won't needlessly kill people. Then you believe it's actually necessary to have amount of police we currently do, when in all actuality it's completely unnecessary.

Finally, you're giving cops carte blanche to arrest anybody for whatever and everything will be ok as long as you just submit and let them ruin your life for no reason.

Unreal.


So you are OK with physical resistance to arrest if the suspect believes the reason is unjust???

That's what I've heard argued in this Atlanta case-- that because HE thought he should be allowed to walk to his sister's, that it made the arrest somehow unlawful.

Sorry, it just cannot work that way.
 
It is not surprising you didn't land anywhere near my point.

You can hold cops to whatever standard you want. Give all cops who kill people the death penalty. Require 10 years of intense combat training so you can pay them 60k a year when they are done.

Do whatever, and then enjoy your world where there are no police.

My point is that your boundless sense of justice has hard stops in the real world. Those hard stops include the natural human response to danger, training cost, and the fact that large amounts of real people have to actually sign up for the job.

As it has been for my entire lifetime, the most effective way to prevent police killings is to stop ****ing with the cops when they try to arrest you. It is VIRTUALLY a surefire way for everyone to go home without bullet holes.

He thinks it's make believe and learned it all in school from his professors.
 

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