Atlanta Police walkout

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#380
rjd970 said:
If you or I shot a guy and killed him for pointing what we knew to be a taser at us while he was running away, would/should we be charged with anything?
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Based on the DA's designating it a deadly weapon no, you should not be charged. If someone points, and further more discharges a lethal weapon at you you are afforded the right to defend yourself. The direction they are moving is of no consequence, or at least it shouldn't be.
 
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rjd970 said:
It was an honest question, not an argument. Hence, "would/should". I'm genuinely curious as to what the opinion of the board is.
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You arent a cop with a gun thats trying to dui arrest someone are you?
 
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Weezer said:
If you're advocating physical resistance of arrest then you're asking for physical police response. Most police violence I've seen comes not from initial action, but overreaction to physical resistance. Cooperation is the best way for everyone to stay alive.
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Mind blowing I know
 
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#384
This may have already been asked but I saw on the news where they had him move his own car. I know this has nothing to do with the topic at hand. But isn’t that really strange if they thought he was drunk?
 
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Electric Orange said:
You arent a cop with a gun thats trying to dui arrest someone are you?
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ok...

I'm a citizen with a gun firing at somebody running away that is shooting a taser at me. Should/would I be charged?

...and....

I'm a cop with a gun in the same scenario. Should/would I be charged?
 
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volfanhill said:
This may have already been asked but I saw on the news where they had him move his own car. I know this has nothing to do with the topic at hand. But isn’t that really strange if they thought he was drunk?
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I don't think they knew he was drunk at that time. they probably didn't know for sure what was going on with this guy. I'm sure they smelled the alcohol on during the questioning.
 
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volfanhill said:
This may have already been asked but I saw on the news where they had him move his own car. I know this has nothing to do with the topic at hand. But isn’t that really strange if they thought he was drunk?
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They had no way to get to the drivers side if he didn't move the car from the drive through.
 
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Smokey'sHandler said:
So question since we have been discussing police standards here is a hypothetical:

Let’s say Brooks knew if he got arrested for DUI he would be violating his parole and be sent back to the pen. Knowing that and in his drunken state he tells himself he’s not going back and is going to do whatever it takes to not go back. He sees the cuffs flips out and decides he isn’t going back. Dude runs, wrestled the cops, takes one of the cops tasers and turns to hit the cop with the taser with the intent to kill cause that is his only way out.

What do you do as the cop?
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If I'm being honest with myself, I would probably do what this cop did. That doesn't mean I couldn't, or even shouldn't, have handled it differently.

Let me ask this, when does the police officer's safety matter more than the citizen's they are there to protect and serve? While it can certainly be argued that a taser in that situation can be lethal, it is without argument that the police officer's pistol absolutely is lethal.

Let me be clear...this by no means excuses what Brook's did. He is absolutely culpable. While the shooting may be legally justified, there is debate as to whether it should be legally justified in this case. This guy wasn't out raping and killing and causing mayhem. He was a little drunk, but cordial and polite with the officers all the way up until the cuffs came out, and then made a really dumb and stupid mistake. He paid for that mistake with his life. I don't think that mistake is worth a life.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'm mildly surprised. I actually was hoping that police around the country would get their unions and FOP in front of this and push for changes on their own... as a sign that they are willing to change with the times. But instead, they are choosing to have a temper tantrum and only offer 2 choices, maintain status quo or we quit. I haven't heard of any major movement to look for middle ground... and there is plenty of middle ground available to cops.
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Why don't hold the crooks a little more accountable for their actions? Or have we given up on them?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Looks like now the pendulum is swinging too far in the opposite direction, now.

Looks like it is time for reason and pragmatism. We can't have full blown authoritarian and untouchable cops nor can you have anarchy. Seems like there is room for a middle ground, but the cops are choosing to either quit or maintain the status quo.
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True, but the media and politicians can’t have middle ground. What else will they have as a platform if we are al getting along? Can’t have that at all!
 
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rjd970 said:
If I'm being honest with myself, I would probably do what this cop did. That doesn't mean I couldn't, or even shouldn't, have handled it differently.

Let me ask this, when does the police officer's safety matter more than the citizen's they are there to protect and serve? While it can certainly be argued that a taser in that situation can be lethal, it is without argument that the police officer's pistol absolutely is lethal.

Let me be clear...this by no means excuses what Brook's did. He is absolutely culpable. While the shooting may be legally justified, there is debate as to whether it should be legally justified in this case. This guy wasn't out raping and killing and causing mayhem. He was a little drunk, but cordial and polite with the officers all the way up until the cuffs came out, and then made a really dumb and stupid mistake. He paid for that mistake with his life. I don't think that mistake is worth a life.
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So a little drunk is ok if he slams into and kills a family of 4 right? You know, because he was only a "little drunk"
 
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#396
Tyler Durden said:
Another one
Man who spent 4 months in jail sues city over false arrest
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It can happen. I’ve been falsely arrested once. I didn’t resist and I made my case to the judge, not to the cop because I knew nothing would come of that. I was also grabbed and thrown on the hood of a police car for no reason at all. They thought I was someone else. I was respectful, we talked through it, and that was that. Mistakes do happen and how people choose to react goes a long way towards the outcome.
 
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I just popped into this thread for a second to see what was up and really after page 2 I'd seen enough but after about 9 pages of reading I'm just wondering when the white supremacist collective in this thread is going to start chanting "you will not replace us"?

People in this thread saying "the cop was done wrong", "let Atlanta burn", "the cop should be given a medal". You all might be removed from situation through your laptops and phone screens but you sure as hell are contributing to the problem and the sad thing is half of you don't even know it or you do and you just don't give a shlt.

Shameful!
 
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rjd970 said:
ok...

I'm a citizen with a gun firing at somebody running away that is shooting a taser at me. Should/would I be charged?

...and....

I'm a cop with a gun in the same scenario. Should/would I be charged?
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Cuz ThEy r XcAt sAmE ThInG.

Minus some important details that make them not the exact same thing.
 
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