Auburn vs. Oregon - Official BCS National Championship Game Thread

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#2,254
kptvol said:
Soooooo. UT benefits by being able to take joy in the fact that a victorious team is chanting the name of a group that includes the Vols?
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the.one.the.only said:
Pride by association. The More You Know!
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TrueOrange said:
there ya go!
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Not necessarily. Many of the best recruits have huge egos and feel they can make a team successful by playing with them. Yes, they will choose the best teams when that team has opportunities for early playing time. On the other hand, when the best teams are loaded at the best recruits postions, the recruits will often choose other teams. Many times, these teams are teams in the best conferences.
 
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kptvol said:
Clearly they'll want to play for the .500 team when they get here, not the four teams that have won NCs since 98.
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If the 500 team needs a starter whereas the top teams in the conference will more than likely have starters set which will roadblock their playing time; yes, it's pretty clear. Most big time recruits have huge egos and feel like they can be the one who turns a 500 team into a top team in the top conference.
 
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kptvol said:
Crazy how they all continue to flock to these undefeated teams.
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Where did Lattimore, Dyer, B. Brown, and Oku go? It's clear top players go to other schools as well but typically remain in the top conferences where they'll have a shot at turning a team into a top team.
 
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BJSforVols said:
Where did Lattimore, Dyer, B. Brown, and Oku go? It's clear top players go to other schools as well but typically remain in the top conferences where they'll have a shot at turning a team into a top team.
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Lattimore stayed with the hometown school. Brown, Dyer, and Oku all headed to new coaches selling a rebuilding angle that they'll only be able to sell in years one and two. After that, they'll need to rely on results.
 
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#2,267
I'm totally confused! Why didn't Gabe Wright pick us today? The SEC won another national championship, didn't we? I thought you guys said that was supposed to help us in recruiting.

Can somebody please explain? Thanks!
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I'm totally confused! Why didn't Gabe Wright pick us today? The SEC won another national championship, didn't we? I thought you guys said that was supposed to help us in recruiting.

Can somebody please explain? Thanks!
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9 teams from the SEC signed top 25 classes, so...
 
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Bumi said:
9 teams from the SEC signed top 25 classes, so...
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Well, yeah, I thought about that, but then I remembered that if you look at a map of where all the football talent in America comes from, it sits exactly across all the SEC schools' territory, so then I realized that that was probably more just a function of geography and proximity than anything else.

I don't know, man....I mean, I look at these recruiting rankings and I see Auburn with their national championship ahead of us, and Alabama with their national championship ahead of us, and LSU won one and they're ahead of us, and recent two-time champ Florida had an awful year and just changed coaches and yet they're still basically tied with us anyway, and somehow I can't shake the feeling that we're actually falling further and further behind! What gives?!?

I mean, some guys in this thread said that players like Gabe Wright would pick us because they wanted to build a .500 team back up into dominance! Look at the BJ Guy five posts up -- Wright's got a huge ego, Auburn has more players than we do, we need his help right away; why didn't he pick us? I thought Auburn winning was supposed to help us.
 
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Bumi said:
9 teams from the SEC signed top 25 classes, so...
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Here's your answer.
No five NC in a row, no 12 four-stars today for the vols. Everybody wants a piece of the SEC, even if its with a team with a losing record.
 
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vols-1 said:
Here's your answer.
No five NC in a row, no 12 four-stars today for the vols. Everybody wants a piece of the SEC, even if its with a team with a losing record.
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But yet I can't help but notice that Auburn has thirteen four-stars and a five-star, including of course a four-star we desperately needed but lost to them today, and Alabama has fourteen four-stars and two five-stars, and LSU has three five-star players to go along with their nine four-stars. How do 12 four-stars help us that much if our championship-winning conference rivals are getting even more and better players, and beating us out for players we really need?
 
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#2,273
You can't seriously expect us to compete with NC winners for blue chip talent over the last five seasons we've had.

Fact is, even finishing 5th in the conference in recruiting is moving up for us. Sure, we don't have the top notch guys, but we had walk-ons starting. Multiple. In the SEC. Walk-ons. Nick Reveiz was one of our best defensive players. Baby steps.
 
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milohimself said:
You can't seriously expect us to compete with NC winners for blue chip talent over the last five seasons we've had.

Fact is, even finishing 5th in the conference in recruiting is moving up for us. Sure, we don't have the top notch guys, but we had walk-ons starting. Multiple. In the SEC. Walk-ons. Nick Reveiz was one of our best defensive players. Baby steps.
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Oh, but I DO expect us to compete with NC winners for blue chip talent. That's why everybody in this thread said they were rooting for Auburn in the title game, remember? It was supposed to help our recruiting.

And then you watch us sign a very good class while our NC-winning rivals sign GREAT classes, and you watch the current national champion beat us out for a DT whom we desperately needed today (a DT who put on a cap at his freaking announcement which referenced that national championship, no less), and you watch Lamar Dawson walk right past us out of SEC country to join a Pac 10 team, and you start to realize that that argument is absolute horseshat.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
But yet I can't help but notice that Auburn has thirteen four-stars and a five-star, including of course a four-star we desperately needed but lost to them today, and Alabama has fourteen four-stars and two five-stars, and LSU has three five-star players to go along with their nine four-stars. How do 12 four-stars help us that much if our championship-winning conference rivals are getting even more and better players, and beating us out for players we really need?
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Im just saying I don't think TN is even in the ballpark with those other teams if the the SEC was not as dominant as they are. And being in the ballpark can win you a NC as Auburn did this year. When your this close to the other teams in recruiting, its all about how the schedule sets up and coaching because you can only play one player in a position at time. I'm really surprised a team and coach with losing records was able to get anything today, but thats the power of the SEC brand.
 
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