So you're admitting you were trolling? That's one.
At least he's willing to admit it, unlike some of the others still clinging to their "inside source" bullcrap.
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I have no idea if Butch will work out. He definitely doesn't excite me. However, Hart should be fired before the season begins. If anyone thinks this hire helps the program, then counting the game day attendance will be easier than counting the empty seats.
I wouldn't define it as trolling, and if it was in these moderators "eyes", it was minor in offense, compared to the complete hypocrisy spewed from posters who continue to back their "sources".
We need to move on from the debacle because it definitely set a standard for Vol fans that realistically could not be matched.
No they haven't. Trolling is trying to stir up arguments and flame wars online, and to deliberately deceive. They maybe got carried away, but that's nothing like what trolling is.
Don't think you need to get all bent out of shape on this. You stuck your neck out on something that didn't work out.
Sounds like Gruden really wasn't interested. FWIW, I hope Butch wins 9 games next year just to piss you Grudenites off.
I don't expect the bold part to happen next year, but as a UT Vol fan, I can hope too.
Thanks for those posting in the Gruden Thread. I took everything for what it was, a post in a thread by an anonymous poster. When it was civil, it was enjoyable and I made some e-friends out of it. For those posting what they were hearing and now getting blasted for it, you guys have my respect.
GO VOLS! :clapping:
Stayed off the Gruden forum for the last few weeks. I was 99% sure the deal was finished and through my sources, they were sure it was done too. I have no idea what happened or why. I have a good idea but without concrete evidence, it is just speculation.
I have no idea if Butch will work out. He definitely doesn't excite me. However, Hart should be fired before the season begins. If anyone thinks this hire helps the program, then counting the game day attendance will be easier than counting the empty seats.
Not really ready to let this go. The lies are just too frustrating for some of us and you don't understand that.
Why are you admitting NOW that you have no "concrete evidence" ...
This is only my 3rd post here, so you are welcome to take it with a grain of salt.
I lurked forever, but never posted because I didn't want to be seen as a "me, too" member.
I have what I think are 2 independent "sources" (I now hate that word) that are at equal depth within UT football. I'd speak to person A and get one story, then speak to person B and get a totally different story. The reports would sometimes be similar, but that was a rarity. I trust both of these folks...and that they were just relaying a message (albeit an erroneous one).
That leads me to believe that the entire AD was in a constant panic which led to crappy communications. Hart should have had more control over it and he didn't. His leadership is very questionable after this.
I have gathered from both people that Gruden was in play up until the near end. He just wanted too much out of the program with no risk to him. At the very end, his most loyal boosters folded on him. To grant him his wishes would have put the football program at risk.
Like I said, that is what I gathered.
According to a 25 year veteran sports reporter with three very credible sources. One being a member of the AD that he didn't even use in his story. One being Jim Haslam. The other being a coach that was going to be on Gruden's staff. It was widely known that he was contacting potential staff members. Sounds like there was a lot more to it than three phone calls and an instant rejection. But keep hating on the only people that were able to bring a glimmer of sun shine into the miserable grey that is UT football at the present.
Frankly I'm pissed at you Grudenites. I don't want to hear an apology for bringing info that you thought was good. I want to hear y'all take the blame and apologize for feeding the fire that helped bring this past season to its knees. Apologize for being so negative and complete jackazzes to people trying to keep it positive. We r in the position we r now with another "well let's see how he'll do" coach cause y'all were to blinded by your wet dreams of Gruden to support the Vols this yr. Yall were the ones glad to see us lose to keep the circle jerk over Gruden alive.
Take blame in yalls part for this past seasons issues then you'll be deserving of respect. Until then all y'all are just POSs to me.