Bama player appeared to hit woman as he left the field…

#579
#579
WilliamDuVOL said:
According to Tennessee cookie law 96-54-102 section 14 subsection 6-b yes, but only if the stomping in question is performed for the acquisition of Thin Mints, Samoas, Do Si Dos, or in rare occurences short bread cookies.
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A side point (but probably a more important one than the dumpster fire this thread has become) thin mints out of the freezer are the bomb.
 
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#583
#583
If it was one of our players hitting an opposing fan - a female to boot, I'd want him gone. There is no benefit to society raising up men to act in this way. Uninvited, angry/aggressive contact surpasses assault (legally), and there is no way any of our programs should tiptoe around this.

If she said words that need to be addressed, I hope they are addressed. That would be a separate, but just as important process. When we're talking about his act, I don't see how this is about her or what she did or didn't do or where she was or wasn't. I'll just leave this here.


battery
"Battery is concerned with the right to have one's body left alone by others.

Battery is both a tort and a crime. Its essential element, harmful or offensive contact, is the same in both areas of the law.The main distinction between the two categories lies in the penalty imposed. A defendant sued for a tort is civilly liable to theplaintiff for damages. The punishment for criminal battery is a fine, imprisonment, or both. Usually battery is prosecuted as acrime only in cases involving serious harm to the victim.

Elements
The following elements must be proven to establish a case for battery: (1) an act by a defendant; (2) an intent to causeharmful or offensive contact on the part of the defendant; and (3) harmful or offensive contact to the plaintiff.

The Act The act must result in one of two forms of contact. Causing any physical harm or injury to the victim—such as a cut,a burn, or a bullet wound—could constitute battery, but actual injury is not required. Even though there is no apparent bruisefollowing harmful contact, the defendant can still be guilty of battery; occurrence of a physical illness subsequent to thecontact may also be actionable. The second type of contact that may constitute battery causes no actual physical harm butis, instead, offensive or insulting to the victim. Examples include spitting in someone's face or offensively touching someoneagainst his or her will.

Touching the person of someone is defined as including not only contacts with the body, but also with anything closelyconnected with the body, such as clothing or an item carried in the person's hand. For example, a battery may be committedby intentionally knocking a hat off someone's head or knocking a glass out of some-one's hand.

Intent Although the contact must be intended, there is no requirement that the defendant intend to harm or injure the victim.In Tort Law, the intent must be either specific intent—the contact was specifically intended—or general intent—the defendantwas substantially certain that the act would cause the contact. The intent element is satisfied in Criminal Law when the act isdone with an intent to injure or with criminal negligence—failure to use care to avoid criminal consequences. The intent forcriminal law is also present when the defendant's conduct is unlawful even though it does not amount to criminal negligence.

Intent is not negated if the aim of the contact was a joke. As with all torts, however, consent is a defense. Under certaincircumstances consent to a battery is assumed. A person who walks in a crowded area impliedly consents to a degree ofcontact that is inevitable and reasonable. Consent may also be assumed if the parties had a prior relationship unless thevictim gave the defendant a previous warning.

There is no requirement that the plaintiff be aware of a battery at the time it is committed. The gist of the action is the lack ofconsent to contact. It is no defense that the victim was sleeping or unconscious at the time.

Harmful or Offensive Conduct It is not necessary for the defendant's wrongful act to result in direct contact with the victim.It is sufficient if the act sets in motion a force that results in the contact. A defendant who whipped a horse on which a plaintiffwas riding, causing the plaintiff to fall and be injured, was found guilty of battery. Provided all other elements of the offenseare present, the offense may also be committed by causing the victim to harm himself. A defendant who fails to act when heor she has a duty to do so is guilty—as where a nurse fails to warn a blind patient that he is headed toward an open window,causing him to fall and injure himself."
 
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The question is can a true bill be returned from the sitting grand jury in Knoxville. The grand jury is the proper charging body. The laws are made to prohibit this conduct: assault. Every day grand juries across this state charge people for conduct like this. The hand wringing here is remarkable. If you are not going to punish men for putting hands on women no wonder we see the sucker punch game going on nationwide including in this state. If a crime was committed take it to the grand jury. Let Mr Burton explain his conduct to a jury or judge in this state.
 
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Every fan on that field Saturday night had the tacit approval of UTK to be there. There could be no trespassing of the field by the fans due to that.
Trying to use trespassing by fans to excuse Burton’s behavior, well that dog don’t hunt.


The UT Admin and athletic department are said to have preordered new goal posts prior to the game.
There is video during the fan rush showing they didn’t care what the financial costs were going to be and were even cheerful about it.
The fan rush when we won was widely known to be happening prior to the game by pretty much everybody and even media were discussing it leading up to the game.
 
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BanditVol said:
I don't have a problem with saying "if fans did not storm the field, things like this would not happen"

That's true.

But you are making the two things morally equivalent and they are not. Literally "two wrongs don't make a right". Beyond that, there is no moral equlavalence in the two things. One is like slightly exceeding the speed limit, something we all do every day, the other is potentially a felony. There is no equivalence, and it's not even close!

Futhermore, there were at least 84 other bammer players on that field and not a dam one showed their arses, but HE did. Not only that, he appears to have done it twice!

And you are also coming across as saying "she deserved it" . ********.

There were about 60000 other fans and over a hundred bammer personnel and players on that field, and ONLY THIS ******* did what he did.

We could also go into his prior history.

You case quite frankly is ridiculous. Let's do set emotion aside. Your logic is extremely faulty. There is only one person at fault here, and it's him.

Roughly 150 other bammers handled their business, but he didn't.

Let me ask you this, do you think your "she should not have been there" would hold up in court, if it comes to that?

I'll hang up and wait for your reply (just keep digging that hole deeper!) :D:D:D:D:D:D
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She should not have been on the field....He should not have put His hands on Her.
 
#590
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BanditVol said:
You seem oblivious to the fact that one is far, far worse than the other.
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And you seem oblivious to the facts that they were both wrong, and if She wasn't on the field, it wouldn't have happened. No one cares about your feelings. She was wrong, He was wrong.
 
#593
#593
I haven't read all 24 pages, but has anyone suggested that the SEC require Bama/Burton to pay the $100K fine Tennessee earned for storming the field?
 
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And trash program extraordinaire Bama goes ahead and STARTS Burton tonight. Just when you thought they couldn’t go any lower. Anything for a win, right Saban? Hope Miss State goes to town on them tonight
 
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