Banks to NFL- opting out of Orange Bowl

[TWilson]

Our first locker room problem is we have part of the floor in there that you can’t walk on. That’s like having a door you can’t open.

Funny you mention it, because Nico broke the rule day 1 and knew the requirements. Banks is just a punk who thinks he's above player agreed upon rules.

 

[Cod]

Just watched the videos of Banks, it’s sad. So much talent but so much hate in that man. Hope he gets his life together or he’ll wind up out of the NFL and in a cell somewhere.

 

[Vols8086]

Well, supposedly we have money and resources to provide for a competitive defense, but somehow our D sucks. We had money and resources for good coaching, but provided Dooley, Butch, and Pruitt.

There is a track record for our athletic program having resources available, but still failing our student athletes. But because Jeremy Banks didn’t live up to your expectations on and off the field, there is no possible way that our athletic department/academic counseling could have failed him?

The point of all the academic resources in place is specifically for kids who don’t care enough to earn it. Their purpose is to counsel, support, and motivate our student athletes. If the purpose of my job is to graduate the players that struggle academically, and then one doesn’t, I would consider that a failure. Kudos for graduating other players, do better for the one who didn’t.

Your idealism is nice but not based in any sort of reality and is a microcosm of where our society is currently. It’s always someone else’s fault and never the individual.

As someone who has taught and coached in the inner city; there is only so much I can do for some of these kids. I can’t take tests for them. I can’t monitor them 24/7. I would go and pick some kids up for school and practice and be waiting outside their place and they wouldn’t come outside or even have the decency to let me know they weren’t coming. I would just wait for a few minutes and then no response and I go to the next kids house. Or how about the kids that I tell them I’ll be there at a certain time and they still aren’t ready? Is that my fault too? Am I not doing enough as their coach to teach punctuality? I know high school coaches that have hired attorneys for kids facing some serious allegations, others got a local police dept that pulled over some of his HS football players drunk to sweep a DUI under the rug. The coaches reasoning? “Well you don’t want a bad decision to ruin their life and their chance at college scholarships”. Funny enough one of those kids is in the CFP and another is playing in a pretty big bowl game.

HS just passes and enables kids and if you’re a good athlete it’s even worse. We would have kids act a fool, curse teachers out, fight regularly, and just show up to be a distraction. I asked why we don’t kick these kids out and admin just says “well what life will they have without a HS diploma?” I told them “the same one with or without, they will be a statistic”. Sadly, every one of those kids I commented on were dead or in prison for at least 1 felony within 3 years of their class graduation date.

In the lead up to the SC game, Banks essentially tries to hold out for NIL money and tries to skip practice. When he isn’t there the coaches called and he said that he couldn’t find the keys to his place and wasn’t going to leave it unlocked for practice. So the coaches offer to send a student assistant over there to sit at his place until practice is over and he can return. Banks then just said he would be at practice and showed up late. I guess his keys magically appeared. There was always something up with him and it’s honestly credit to this staff they have brought him this far.

Banks has required so much monitoring and hand holding just to get him this far at UT that you would think he would be embarrassed by now. The kid is a turd and if he doesn’t make some serious changes he is going to struggle mightily in life. You can’t counsel someone who doesn’t think they need counseling.

 

[chuckb1448]

I know we need his tenacity on the field but my impression of him is he showed tenacity On and Off the field. I was hoping better for him but honestly he was a cancer, we will be better off in the long run

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

That’s the only way this team could lose.

Wrong

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

he is not eligible to play from MULTIPLE sources that would know. Had he not announced he was opting out of bowl, UT would have announced he was not eligible to play in the bowl.

Good to know. There is no reason to trash a kid for turning his back if it was not his option. Lack of academic effort is one thing, that would be another. He has not handled his opportunity to be a VOL well on several fronts. Some posters have matched him. Wish he and those posters had more closely emulated his HS teammate that is also a VOL. Hoping that the staff anticipated his situation and have used the time to backfill his snaps better than we did at SC on short notice.

 

[SATX VOL]

How do we know what they felt? Am I missing a piece of information?

That’s fair, we do not know exactly, but from what I’ve heard, it was somewhere along those lines.

 

[Hensman18]

I think it BS that so many players and not only Vol players are bailing on their bowl games. Any player who opts not to play should be forced to repay their scholarship to the university. This is crap along with the NIL and the transfer portal. Thanks NCAA for ruining the greatest game ever.

 

[Tarkus]

I wish he was playing but if he isn’t, I wish him the best. He always played hard.

 

[rocytop2624]

JB enrolled on May 31, 2018. It is a shame.

I wonder what he was studying to be?

I would say he never planned to graduate he was going to leave and be in the NFL. I wonder how close he is.

 

[Jax_Vol]

I wonder what he was studying to be?

I would say he never planned to graduate he was going to leave and be in the NFL. I wonder how close he is.

If he was walking thru the line, doesn't that mean he is at least within one semester's worth of credits?

Say 12-15 hours...?

So sad

 

[GAVol]

I think it BS that so many players and not only Vol players are bailing on their bowl games. Any player who opts not to play should be forced to repay their scholarship to the university. This is crap along with the NIL and the transfer portal. Thanks NCAA for ruining the greatest game ever.

Sounds like the term "opt out" doesn't apply in this case. it implies that he actually had an option.

Hope everything works out for him.

 

[rocytop2624]

If he was walking thru the line, doesn't that mean he is at least within one semester's worth of credits?

Say 12-15 hours...?

So sad

Almost as sad as trying to throw his career away because of NIL. He let NIL get in the way of his degree and maybe NFL.

 

[Jax_Vol]

Almost as sad as trying to throw his career away because of NIL. He let NIL get in the way of his degree and maybe NFL.

I can see the NIL just being one of those temper tantum things that happen to young men.

But, to stop attending class after 6 1/2 years makes little sense.

 

[vols40]

Interesting

I wish JB would do whatever it takes to graduate. Later in life, that degree can open a lot of doors.

So can self accountability

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I can see the NIL just being one of those temper tantum things that happen to young men.

But, to stop attending class after 6 1/2 years makes little sense.

I see it this way also. Perhaps Banks realized that the NFL wasn't likely to happen for him and the NIL was the most money he's likely to see from his years of practice and playing football.

Rather than help his situation by maximizing the benefit of school, he appears to have quit going to class and trying to get his degree.

He also may have developed some animosity toward teammates who have better NFL chances than him.

Understandable. Not good choices, but understandable.

 

[vols40]

So, if it’s academics that kept Banks out, it looks pretty bad for UT. In that Netflix show, some junior college in Mississippi has an understaffed and underfunded athletic department, but that lady was keeping all the JUCO kids eligible. But at UT, we can’t keep a senior eligible? I would assume our athletic department had mechanisms in place to avoid this. Seems like ‘UT failed Jeremy Banks’ is just as likely an outcome as ‘JB was a cancer’. Who the h3ll is in charge of our academic counseling in the AD?

Maybe... But it's also just as likely this is 100% on Banks. At the end of day in life we are all accountable to ourselves. The sooner Jeremy learns this the better he will be for it. Making excuses for him is called enabling.

 

[vols40]

I see it this way also. Perhaps Banks realized that the NFL wasn't likely to happen for him and the NIL was the most money he's likely to see from his years of practice and playing football.

Rather than help his situation by maximizing the benefit of school, he appears to have quit going to class and trying to get his degree.

He also may have developed some animosity toward teammates who have better NFL chances than him.

Understandable. Not good choices, but understandable.

Disagree.

Self entitlement is never an excuse.

 

[vols40]

Our first locker room problem is we have part of the floor in there that you can’t walk on. That’s like having a door you can’t open.

I think you meant to say there are clearly defined rules. Most comply... Those who don't.... Well they just don't.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Disagree.

Self entitlement is never an excuse.

I'm not excusing his behavior just trying to understand it. I'm glad you've always made the right decisions in your life but I'm human and haven't.

Allowing the kid to be human doesn't mean I'm giving him an excuse to screw up, I'm just understanding that it happens.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I think it BS that so many players and not only Vol players are bailing on their bowl games. Any player who opts not to play should be forced to repay their scholarship to the university. This is crap along with the NIL and the transfer portal. Thanks NCAA for ruining the greatest game ever.

I think it was the Supreme Court of the United States who made the ruling which led to the development of the NIL.

 

[FLVOL_79]

So are you saying they threw the game against USCjr.?

that's my unscientific conspiracy theory

 

[vols40]

I'm not excusing his behavior just trying to understand it. I'm glad you've always made the right decisions in your life but I'm human and haven't.

Allowing the kid to be human doesn't mean I'm giving him an excuse to screw up, I'm just understanding that it happens.

We agree for the most part. Where we differ is I have absolutely messed up in my life. The only way I learned or got past it was being held accountable. I fail to see tangible evidence as to where he has been held accountable for his actions.

 

[TWilson]

I think it BS that so many players and not only Vol players are bailing on their bowl games. Any player who opts not to play should be forced to repay their scholarship to the university. This is crap along with the NIL and the transfer portal. Thanks NCAA for ruining the greatest game ever.

The NCAA didn't ruin it. Everything the courts passed did. Thank California courts for NIL. There's PLENTY of blame for the BCS BS...

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

We agree for the most part. Where we differ is I have absolutely messed up in my life. The only way I learned or got past it was being held accountable. I fail to see tangible evidence as to where he has been held accountable for his actions.

I suspect his NIL deals were not as lucrative because of his disgusting comments about the police and I suspect his failure to graduate (unless he chooses to do it on his own in the future) will also prove to cost him money and support from UT contacts.