Billy G is Overrated!

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utvolpj said:
he would obviously ignore anyone that follows CBB since there's another SEC team that's won 2 NC's in a row.
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OK, maybe the way I said that wasn't the best, so let me try another way...

UK is the most tradition rich program in the SEC and have beaten up on us like a red headed stepchild for years. It will not have the same meaning for us to win the conference when beating UK will be no more signifigant than beating South Carolina.

Better?
 
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back to the value of the SEC champy: I just think teams are defined by their tourney runs. we'll call teams elite 8 and final 4 squads left and right, but typically don't hear a lot about conf champs
 
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it is exactly stereotypes and I find no use for them. stereotypes are little more than lack of education, understanding or intellectual laziness.
 
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GoVols817 said:
Are you saying that many stereotypes are not more than 50-60% true?
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Any kind of gross generalization is not really a plausible representation of the people or thing it is generalizing. Without concrete stats to prove beyond a doubt whatever it is is true, stereotypes are basically worthless.
 
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TreeGreen said:
That is exactly what he is saying, and he'd be correct. Any kind of gross generalization is not really a plausible representation of the people or thing it is generalizing.
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Really, so if I were to say that stereotypically, fat people don't eat well or exercise on a regular basis, you'd say that is a long way from being true?
 
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to some degree, you can stereotype based uppon gender and be accurate on certain subjects, but you'd be shocked how often you'd be wrong.
 
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That isn't a stereotype. A stereotype is when a foreign person says that all Americans are fat and don't eat well.
 
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i hate to say it, but stereotypes exist and the economy uses them to make money. Stereotyping people is very beneficial in many aspects. It's why you see a certain type of commercial during a football game and why you see a completely different type of commercial during a Lifetime made for TV movie. You even see different commercials during the X games than you see during the Rose Bowl. There are several different types of people.

What's wrong is judging those people because of their perceived stereotype. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with them, they are just different than you.
 
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TreeGreen said:
That isn't a stereotype. A stereotype is when a foreign person says that all Americans are fat and don't eat well.
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Wrong, to stereotype, you don't have to claim ALL of anything.

Example. You see a black man walking down the road, wearing baggy pants, a gold chain and a sideways hat. You say "I bet he's into rap". You've stereotyped.
 
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Also, how in the world did a conversation about Billy G being overrated become a debate on the semantics of stereotyping?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
i'd say you're not very sensitive or caring. fat people have feelings too.
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Saying someone is fat b/c they don't eat right or exercise isn't insensitive. It's mostly fact. You don't care if someone says something about getting lung cancer from cigarettes, or AIDS from anal sex with a man, but for some reason criticizing someone for being glutton makes you insensitive.

I wasn't trying to start a sensitivity class, I was using an example of a stereotype that is true to a very high percentage.
 
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GoVols817 said:
Wrong, to stereotype, you don't have to claim ALL of anything.
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Except I'm not wrong, your example of the black guy with gold chains liking rap is a completely different analogy from your fat person claim. Back to the subject at hand, I have no idea if Billy G is overrated, but I do know a lot of the Kentucky faithful are not at all pleased with losing to "inferior" teams.
 
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GoVols817 said:
Wrong, to stereotype, you don't have to claim ALL of anything.

Example. You see a black man walking down the road, wearing baggy pants, a gold chain and a sideways hat. You say "I bet he's into rap". You've stereotyped.
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couldn't care less about garbage like that, but what I read from you earlier regarding 17 year olds and the uselessness is a far more insidious style of stereotyping.
 
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GoVols817 said:
Saying someone is fat b/c they don't eat right or exercise isn't insensitive. It's mostly fact. You don't care if someone says something about getting lung cancer from cigarettes, or AIDS from anal sex with a man, but for some reason criticizing someone for being glutton makes you insensitive.

I wasn't trying to start a sensitivity class, I was using an example of a stereotype that is true to a very high percentage.
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have you no heart? did you not watch The Biggest Loser? those stories are gut wrenching.
 
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I bet everyone on this board would be just as thrilled with our basketball team if we had hired BCG instead of CBP a few years back.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
have you no heart? did you not watch The Biggest Loser? those stories are gut wrenching.
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No heart? If you call saying someone got fat by not eating right and not taking care of themselves is having no heart, then I guess I don't. Sorry, my sympathy level for someone committing the sin of gluttony is very small. I commend any efforts anyone makes to better themselves, but stating a fact, to me, is not insensitivity.
 
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emainvol said:
I bet everyone on this board would be just as thrilled with our basketball team if we had hired BCG instead of CBP a few years back.
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Do you think BG could have marketed to the fans like BP did? I think one of the biggest impacts Bruce had was off the court by bringing the fans back to the Tommy. The past few years may be a small sample size, but Bruce has had some serious success here. I will admit, however, that BG has a lot more pressure on him than Bruce did starting off, although at this point you'd have to figure it is about the same.
 
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