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Volunteer08 said:
I'm not getting into a debate here, but if you think being involved or contributing to Black Lives Matter is political - get a life. At some point you should stick your head out of your tiny little cave and look around. That's just ignorance.
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Your head is in the sand. This is not a comment on the pros or cons of BLM, but it is literally a political organization.
 
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VolDaddy61 said:
My point is how did Black on Black crime so readily introduced into discussions, but not White on White, or Korean on Korean..... those are homicide statistics not crime in it's totally. It paints a narrative that Black folks are more prone to be violent/criminals. It's a bull$hit talking point. If you take number from all areas of criminal activity it may skew differently.
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Certainly not black folks in general, but there is a certain demographic that commits an overwhelming- and whoppingly disproportionate- amount of violent crime in this country.
 
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Gandalf said:
Since a gift to black lives matter organization is an indirect contribution to the democratic political candidates VERIFY: Do Black Lives Matter donations go to democratic campaigns? (and I mean indirect only by having a payment processor who makes it so BLM can keep its non-profit status) is the team going to be raising money for Republican candidates as well? Not sure why the boosters would be backing this much at all.

How about instead of giving it to progressive political activists, the funds could go to supporting a scholarship fund for low income black students in the stem and business disciplines - since these things will actually make a difference with things that matter in real black lives - instead of virtue signaling and funding the very people who are responsible for the problem.
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This one of the best things I've read on here. You need to head over to the political forum and talk sense into some people
 
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RobertPellitt said:
This is my first post, but not going to be my last. I am deeply troubled by a lot of these comments. I also wonder to myself how many would be made in public with a person's real name attached to it. It is like you cheer for these young African-American Student Athletes but you don't really care what they have to say or how they feel. They are hurting, they are in pain, black lives are being taken for granted by our government. That is not a myth or fiction it is a fact. Coach Pruitt should not be accused of pandering or bolstering his recruiting profile, he should be praised for being a leader. Showing our young African-American Student Athletes how to protest peacefully and have their voices heard. He is de-escalating a painful truth many non-whites don't want to hear or even acknowledge. By comparison we could have had someone as tone deaf as Mike Gundy. I went to UT, I graduated from UT and today I am so very proud of my alma mater. And, candidly if you are not on board, I suggest you get out of the way and don't stop progress because change is coming fast and Neyland Stadium is not going to be the last place you see it. GBO and VFL (1993).
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This is true and yes it is horribly sad. The problem is that the well deserved wrath of inner city minorities is not directing its righteous scorching fire on the political leaders, many of them minority and ALL of them Democrats running those same cities, who have utterly and abjectly failed the people who put their faith in them. They have been running those cities for 50 years and are they better educated, safer, cleaner, more prosperous than before? hardly - but instead of taking responsibility and leading real changes that will lead people out of impoverishment and crime, they line their own pockets with power and money while heaping blame on the White Bwana. All those people suffering all these years - precisely because BLACK LIVES DO NOT MATTER to the politicians who run these inner cities - we know that because if they actually did, they would do something about the crime and poverty in the squalid tenements they rule over.

If the people on the street werent so deluded (bamboozled, to borrow from Malcom X), they would be burning down city hall and Democratic district offices instead of businesses.
 
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allvol123 said:
Your head is in the sand. This is not a comment on the pros or cons of BLM, but it is literally a political organization.
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Just because you say it is a political organization does not make it true. If you do some research you will find that BLM is not the same as ANTIFA nor is a political party. If you want to characterize it as something then at least do your homework. It is a "movement" not a "political party" and is has multiple chapters that are only loosely identified with each other. The groups are dedicated to non-violent civil disobedience to end and draw attention to racist acts, in particular those that are committed by the government. So even if the Athletic Department was making a contribution to BLM they would first have to decide what chapter in what city that contribution would have to go to, which seems highly unlikely. Certainly, it is nothing similar to contributing to a certain political candidate or party. That is simply flaming the flames of a very false and misleading narrative. However, if the Athletic Department wants to give the money to the Knoxville chapter of the BLM because our Student Athletes are members, I am 100% behind this idea. With that said, it's not my money and it's not yours so how they spend it is up to them.
 
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RobertPellitt said:
Just because you say it is a political organization does not make it true. If you do some research you will find that BLM is not the same as ANTIFA nor is a political party. If you want to characterize it as something then at least do your homework. It is a "movement" not a "political party" and is has multiple chapters that are only loosely identified with each other. The groups are dedicated to non-violent civil disobedience to end and draw attention to racist acts, in particular those that are committed by the government. So even if the Athletic Department was making a contribution to BLM they would first have to decide what chapter in what city that contribution would have to go to, which seems highly unlikely. Certainly, it is nothing similar to contributing to a certain political candidate or party. That is simply flaming the flames of a very false and misleading narrative. However, if the Athletic Department wants to give the money to the Knoxville chapter of the BLM because our Student Athletes are members, I am 100% behind this idea. With that said, it's not my money and it's not yours so how they spend it is up to them.
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It literally is.

Some of their money has been my money. But that can obviously cease.
 
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Gandalf said:
This is true and yes it is horribly sad. The problem is that the well deserved wrath of inner city minorities is not directing its righteous scorching fire on the political leaders, many of them minority and ALL of them Democrats running those same cities, who have utterly and abjectly failed the people who put their faith in them. They have been running those cities for 50 years and are they better educated, safer, cleaner, more prosperous than before? hardly - but instead of taking responsibility and leading real changes that will lead people out of impoverishment and crime, they line their own pockets with power and money while heaping blame on the White Bwana. All those people suffering all these years - precisely because BLACK LIVES DO NOT MATTER to the politicians who run these inner cities - we know that because if they actually did, they would do something about the crime and poverty in the squalid tenements they rule over.

If the people on the street werent so deluded (bamboozled, to borrow from Malcom X), they would be burning down city hall and Democratic district offices instead of businesses.
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And you omitted substance abuse
 
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volfanjustin said:
He led with he didn't want to get into a debate, he led with that because he knows he doesn't know what in the hell he is talking about
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No, I led with "I don't want to get into a debate" because I know how this board leans. I know that my views would not align with 75% of this board - maybe more. I'm not trying to debate to make you understand what the bigger picture is. That's not my job. Some of you think you can post on a message board and actually change people. No, you need to do that yourself. I made my comment to call out the ignorance that is spewing in this thread. I've said my piece. ;)
 
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I think the black lives matter people is misleading a lot of young black people ( and white). On the surface the organization seems innocuous. And I do support any fight against excessive government force applied to any person of any race, but I think large elements of the movement have designs on a political power grab that is unrelated to protecting black people from unjustified violence. People are so determined to virtue signal or are fearful of being shamed that they do not see this.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
It's called Pandering, and frankly, It's not a good look. Maybe Pruitt just doesn't understand ? Or he is getting some bad advice. Coaches really need to straddle the fence on this one, look after their players, but don't go Political. Too many enemies to be made either way.
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It's purely for recruiting. The vast majority of kids we recruit is VERY pro BLM
 
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Gandalf said:
This is true and yes it is horribly sad. The problem is that the well deserved wrath of inner city minorities is not directing its righteous scorching fire on the political leaders, many of them minority and ALL of them Democrats running those same cities, who have utterly and abjectly failed the people who put their faith in them. They have been running those cities for 50 years and are they better educated, safer, cleaner, more prosperous than before? hardly - but instead of taking responsibility and leading real changes that will lead people out of impoverishment and crime, they line their own pockets with power and money while heaping blame on the White Bwana. All those people suffering all these years - precisely because BLACK LIVES DO NOT MATTER to the politicians who run these inner cities - we know that because if they actually did, they would do something about the crime and poverty in the squalid tenements they rule over.

If the people on the street werent so deluded (bamboozled, to borrow from Malcom X), they would be burning down city hall and Democratic district offices instead of businesses.
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Here is where your logic is misguided. You don't know my political affiliation at all, you assume I am a Democrat because I support the wearing of black jerseys by our Student-Athletes. You also assume that all or virtually all black people living in impoverished areas are also Democrats and vote only for White Democrats that basically use and abuse them. First, this type of political diatribe is not at issue in this thread and furthermore it is just profoundly stupid. It ignores all other factors of institutional and systematic racism that I don't have time to educate you on. If you really are blaming poor and black people for their plight because they only vote for people that are Democrats, then I could see why you oppose black jerseys and black Student Athletes. You are the problem not everybody else.
 
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ButchPlz said:
There are even black people asking where the donations go. Answer: straight to ActBlue, a democrat PAC.
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Just to be clear, ActBlue is not really a PAC. It has had to register as a PAC but it is really a fundraising mechanism used by Democratic candidates to raise money. In another words, a candidate will use ActBlue to process the contributions the candidate receives from individuals making contributions through the candidate’s website.
That having been said, I think there are better places the funds could be given such as scholarships or to help with education needs.
 
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OrangeVolMan said:
Just to be clear, ActBlue is not really a PAC. It has had to register as a PAC but it is really a fundraising mechanism used by Democratic candidates to raise money. In another words, a candidate will use ActBlue to process the contributions the candidate receives from individuals making contributions through the candidate’s website.
That having been said, I think there are better places the funds could be given such as scholarships or to help with education needs.
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Yes! Direct contributions to high schools with 5* athletes we are recruiting for Football and Basketball
 
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Volunteer08 said:
No, I led with "I don't want to get into a debate" because I know how this board leans. I know that my views would not align with 75% of this board - maybe more. I'm not trying to debate to make you understand what the bigger picture is. That's not my job. Some of you think you can post on a message board and actually change people. No, you need to do that yourself. I made my comment to call out the ignorance that is spewing in this thread. I've said my piece. ;)
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BLM is a radical far left led group. Giving them $$ is dangerous. They are a dangerous group. I doubt Pruitt actually believes in the stupid crap he's pushing here but he has a bunch of brainwashed players so he feels he has to feed the ignorance for recruiting purposes
 
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allvol123 said:
It literally is.

Some of their money has been my money. But that can obviously cease.
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That is absolutely hilarious. First of all I would love to know how much you give a year and the finite percentage that is to the UTAD budget. And somehow you think your voice matters, that is a riot. Compare that to the amount of money that black Student-Athletes generate and yet you still wonder why they are not listing to your narrow view of social issues. America has shifted, we are going to see a lot more peaceful protests in athletics at the pro and college level. Corporate sponsors are seeing this - look at all the logo changes this week alone. I promise you, the University of Tennessee is not going to get caught on the wrong side of this issue. And you not going to a game or two and eating a couple of hot dogs is not a legitimate concern to them. Young Americans support equality on all fronts and if you are not with them, again I suggest getting out of the way so you don't get rolled over.
 
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#200
LOL...so many snowflakes getting riled up because of their "facts" about BLM that they heard from a friend or saw on Facebook. It's a good move and they're making sure the money goes to social initiatives and not political parties or campaigns. This is a human rights issue and not a political one. UT is handling it the right way.
 
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