Bone to pick with VIA

#77
#77
droski said:
It's not hard to take your team to a bowl game when half of your games are against the dregs of div-1a. The only decent victory of the season was against a down georgia team.
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That "down" UGA team won 9 games and defeated Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech to end the year. That's an impressive win for Kentucky. And UK stomped Clemson in the Music City. Brooks is doing a good job at Kentucky.

That said, I have a hard time saying he's better than Tedford. Had his record been over a short span at Oregon, I could give him a pass, but a less than .500 record over EIGHTEEN YEARS is pretty bad. He would NEVER have kept his job even 1/3 that long at an SEC school. If Tedford stays at Cal for 18 years, I'm sure he'll go to a Rose Bowl or two.

While I do think Tedford is a slightly overrated and not a top 10 coach, he's done a very good job at Cal and has to be considered a "good" coach.
 
#82
#82
VolinArizona said:
Total yards: 409 to 402
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Again, it never felt like UK was going to lose, barring a miracle. If you'll recall Clemson put on a late comeback to make the score (and yardage) closer. By that point, UK was just running clock and hanging on.
 
#84
#84
GregAmsler said:
Again, it never felt like UK was going to lose, barring a miracle. If you'll recall Clemson put on a late comeback to make the score (and yardage) closer. By that point, UK was just running clock and hanging on.
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I never really thought Kentucky was going to lose either, but that was far from a woodshed victory.
 
#85
#85
I have ZERO respect for VIA (and KPT). He has been nothing but combative and condescending with me, seemingly for no reasons other than I will not coalesce to his hollowly false assertions of absurdity. I applaud your thread and support it 110%! VIA knows nothing about our football program, just like KPT! :machgun:


droski said:
On VolInArizona's blog he says the following:

Tedford is generally heralded as God in Berkeley (which, in itself, is a freaking "does not compute" moment for me). Cal-Berkeley fans (1 dollar to Les Miles) continually assert that Tedford is one of the 10 best coaches in college football. One.of.the.10.best. Yeah, it pisses me off, too. He's done a good job with a dead program. Great, a lot of coaches have done that. However, it doesn't automatically put you in the upper echelon.



Show me another coach that has done this (posted on the cal board a couple of days ago):

From 2002-2007 Cal's winning % is 20th ranked for all D-1A teams
From 2004-2006 Cal's winning % is tied for 13th for all D-1A teams

Contrast the above numbers with where we were pre-JT.

From 1997-2001 Cal's winning % was 105th for all D-1A teams.
From 1999-2001 Cal's winning % was 109th for all D-1A teams.
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#86
Teddyhead said:
I have ZERO respect for VIA (and KPT). He has been nothing but combative and condescending with me, seemingly for no reasons other than I will not coalesce to his hollowly false assertions of absurdity. I applaud your thread and support it 110%! VIA knows nothing about our football program, just like KPT! :machgun:
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First off, isn't it past your bedtime? 2nd, I would take ViA and kpt's opinion over yours anyday. I know that 99% of this board will agree w/ me. You try to sound smart using big words and big sentences, but you are still an idiot.:salute:
 
#87
#87
Droski,

Tedford may be a good head coach, but if a comparision is going to made between two Pac-10 coaches ability, the location should be factored in.

Tedford is in California, a place that produces 20 times that amount of which Oregon produces. Cal is obviously goin' to have the edge when it comes to homegrown talent. Over the last 3 years, 75% of Cal's commits have come from their own backyard. That's got to say something there. Cal was a sleeping giant before Tedford arrived and he's scraped the surface of what that football program is capable of.

So while I agree that Tedford is a good Football coach at Cal, I do not believe he would be anywhere near as good at a place like Oregon or Kentucky.:peace2:
 
#88
#88
Teddyhead said:
I have ZERO respect for VIA (and KPT). He has been nothing but combative and condescending with me, seemingly for no reasons other than I will not coalesce to his hollowly false assertions of absurdity. I applaud your thread and support it 110%! VIA knows nothing about our football program, just like KPT! :machgun:
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I guarantee VolinArizona and myself know more about Cal than you do about UT. Even so, I don't spend my time posting on Cal board. This is a UT board. If you are looking for Cal expertise, you're obviously not too bright (the other 2400 or so other posts also reveal this fact).
 
#89
#89
Even though Droski and I disagree on Tedford's place in the current coaching landscape, I can say with 100% certainty that he respects my opinion far more than yours, Seth.
 
#90
#90
If Fulmer were fired tomorrow and the only coaches that you could hire were Brooks or Tedford, I take Tedford.
 
#94
#94
I would want to see how he does this year. He took a program and really only went one step further in a miracle game. He did a good coaching job, but I would want to watch him closely this year.
 
#95
#95
I think he'll be the next coach to go from a smaller school to a bigger one. Everyone is always talking about bringing in a young guy w/ fresh ideas...?
 
#96
#96
emainvol said:
I either agree with your assertion that most of those coaches are better than or think that some are at least on par with Tedford. The three in bold, however, stump me. It is way too early in the game to start singing Schiano's praises, Weis will run Notre Dame into the ground before he is done, and Ferentz is just Terrible.
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schiano started the same year tedford did. actually our only victory our 1-10 year was a slim victory over rutgers. tedford turned it around instantly. schiano was probably going to be fired up until last year.
 
#97
#97
Volunteer_Kirby said:
Droski,

Tedford may be a good head coach, but if a comparision is going to made between two Pac-10 coaches ability, the location should be factored in.

Tedford is in California, a place that produces 20 times that amount of which Oregon produces. Cal is obviously goin' to have the edge when it comes to homegrown talent. Over the last 3 years, 75% of Cal's commits have come from their own backyard. That's got to say something there. Cal was a sleeping giant before Tedford arrived and he's scraped the surface of what that football program is capable of.

So while I agree that Tedford is a good Football coach at Cal, I do not believe he would be anywhere near as good at a place like Oregon or Kentucky.:peace2:
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tedford did pretty good at oregon when he was the OC there. while I agree that cal has many natural advantages the fact of the matter is no other coach in 60 years HAS done it. And we've had guys that went on to do greater and better things.
 
#98
#98
VolinArizona said:
Even though Droski and I disagree on Tedford's place in the current coaching landscape, I can say with 100% certainty that he respects my opinion far more than yours, Seth.
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agreed. I'd say we agree on most things. The primary thing i object to was saying that many coaches have done what tedford has done.
 
#99
#99
hatvol96 said:
Jeff Tedford should drop to his knees every night and thank God for Kirk Ferentz. The Head Hawkeye is the only man standing between Tedford and the title of Most Overrated College Football Coach Of The Last Decade.
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Hate, you say a lot of things that make me shake my head and or laugh. But this one is right on my litigious friend.
 
#100
#100
droski said:
schiano was probably going to be fired up until last year.
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100% inaccurate. Schiano had Rutgers in a bowl in '05. Anyone paying attention, including the administration of New Jersey's state university, knew he had the Scarlet Knights on the right track.
 
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