Border Fence

[85SugarVol]

If we cannot stop it, would the wall be viable and cost-effective to slow it down? Curtail it by a percentage? Increase immediate apprehensions and deportations?

"Build the wall" is sloganeering. Objectively looking at the intended purpose, the metrics for efficacy, and the cost to achieve satisfactory results is a discussion few seem willing to have.

I do not believe a wall would stop it.

I do believe a wall would slow it down.
I do believe it would be measurable.

I proposed using known get-aways as a metric for efficacy.

 

[McDad]

I do not believe a wall would stop it.

I do believe a wall would slow it down.
I do believe it would be measurable.

I proposed using known get-aways as a metric for efficacy.

It's a shame we're talking about it and not the "leaders" of our country.

 

[Carl Pickens]

If we cannot stop it, would the wall be viable and cost-effective to slow it down? Curtail it by a percentage? Increase immediate apprehensions and deportations?

"Build the wall" is sloganeering. Objectively looking at the intended purpose, the metrics for efficacy, and the cost to achieve satisfactory results is a discussion few seem willing to have.

Machine gun nests and giant catapults would probably be more effective and cost efficient

 

[85SugarVol]

It's a shame we're talking about it and not the "leaders" of our country.

Damn shame.

And we didn’t get to it, but the “cost” is just politics.

 

[swampfoxfan]

This Isn't a Border Wall: It's a Monument to White Supremacy

Texas’ racist border wall continues; resistance still growing

The border wall isn't just a dividing line – it's a monument against racial progress | Inequality | The Guardian
Congressman Beto O’Rourke: Trump’s wall is ‘racist’
Biden Pushed to Permanently Scrap 'Trump's Xenophobic and Racist Wall'
Warren Has A Plan For Coronavirus: Defund Trump’s “Racist Wall”
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Why yes of course, that's every liberal in America.

 

[McDad]

Damn shame.

And we didn’t get to it, but the “cost” is just politics.

Not sure I can agree since we are 31T in debt but receptive to your explanation.

 

[swampfoxfan]

When millions pour in you have a large number that can be from anywhere…. Duh

So you think the 9/11 perps slipped in thru the southern border...duh

 

[85SugarVol]

Not sure I can agree since we are 31T in debt but receptive to your explanation.

Oh I agree there.

If you believe all is well at the border, $10.00 on border security is probably about 9 bucks too much.

If you believe the border is a nightmare, you’re probably looking at the money funneled to Ukraine and would want 3x that for border security.

I don’t know what the right amount is. But some of the #’s that were actually proposed are inconsequential amounts - which to your point is how we arrived at 31T.

 

[Carl Pickens]

So you think the 9/11 perps slipped in thru the southern border...duh

Ugh no….and by no means did I suggest this. However, based on your take of what I said I do think you’re a Biden voter and supporter…..
So let me break it down for you …. If the southern border is porous and millions are crossing illegally there are thousands that never encounter US border patrol. Within this countless number of illegals…. It is possible that some of them are America hating terrorist a-holes. Get it?
We already have a huge fentanyl problem

 

[Carl Pickens]

Who says libs say that? Dumb statement really dumb

What Was this in response to?

Border security is important I'll never argue otherwise. But I don't think as many bad guys have snuck in as ones that come legally. 9-11 tragedy wasn't south Americans.

never mind my earlier post

 

[AM64]

Machine gun nests and giant catapults would probably be more effective and cost efficient

If it weren't for the fact that wildlife can't read signs, I'd still go with a few others on a minefield.

 

[AM64]

Not sure I can agree since we are 31T in debt but receptive to your explanation.

If a wall cuts government spending related to illegals - schools, medical care, etc, then the savings might go a long way toward the cost of a wall. It will be interesting to see just how much the plan to add Dreamers to obamaCare and Medicaid will add. You know somehow they will lie and show that as a cost savings to taxpayers though.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Ugh no….and by no means did I suggest this. However, based on your take of what I said I do think you’re a Biden voter and supporter…..
So let me break it down for you …. If the southern border is porous and millions are crossing illegally there are thousands that never encounter US border patrol. Within this countless number of illegals…. It is possible that some of them are America hating terrorist a-holes. Get it?
We already have a huge fentanyl problem

A Democrat yes. A Biden supporter no. I'm a retired combat corpsman serving with the USMC IN 3 wars, as such I take the duty of voting very seriously. This past POTUS election was the first I have ever skipped as I couldn't support either choice.

 

[WBO]

Funny part is the Chamber of Commerce, that great bastion of conservative business, wants more immigration to take the traditionally low paying tough jobs so they don't have to pay $20 an hour to hotel maids and farm workers.

Always love it when the right wing fights each other. Circular firing squad.

 

[WBO]

A Democrat yes. A Biden supporter no. I'm a retired combat corpsman serving with the USMC IN 3 wars, as such I take the duty of voting very seriously. This past POTUS election was the first I have ever skipped as I couldn't support either choice.

You know what they say, "The Marine Corps already has a few good men, Navy Corpsmen."

As one combat Marine from Vietnam once said to me, "they have balls bigger than basketballs." (You'll have to explain how you run with those.)

Thank you for your service.

 

[85SugarVol]

A Democrat yes. A Biden supporter no. I'm a retired combat corpsman serving with the USMC IN 3 wars, as such I take the duty of voting very seriously. This past POTUS election was the first I have ever skipped as I couldn't support either choice.

Thank you for your service.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

I guess walls are only ineffective when placed between US and Mexico.

Finland Unveils 1st Section Of Russian Border Fence After Joining NATO | ZeroHedge

Heard this tonight I suppose dimocrats & the Biden Administration will come out and immediately denounce this as racist.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

 

[swampfoxfan]

Heard this tonight I suppose dimocrats & the Biden Administration will come out and immediately denounce this as racist.

Hopefully someday you will learn insulting over half the population won't help get your point across. Whatever your point is. As a Democrat I don't support our involvement in Ukraine and don't care what Finland does. But will Finland's wall stood aircraft?

 

[85SugarVol]

Hopefully someday you will learn insulting over half the population won't help get your point across. Whatever your point is. As a Democrat I don't support our involvement in Ukraine and don't care what Finland does. But will Finland's wall stood aircraft?

That would be quite the wall. But no, Finland is purchasing Israel’s “David’s Sling” for air defense.

This will be the first export of the David’s Sling system. The system is designed to intercept advanced aerial threats, including ballistic missiles, aircrafts, UAVs and cruise missiles, Israel’s Ministry of Defense said in a statement.

Finland to buy Israel’s David’s Sling air defense system

The wall they are constructing is to slow any subsequent ground assault carried out by the Russians. They have attacked the Finnish border multiple times in the past.

 

[WBO]

What a racist cartoon. Looks like something out of Nazi propaganda.

 

[McDad]

What a racist cartoon. Looks like something out of Nazi propaganda.

Racist?

What is the racial component?

 

[85SugarVol]

Racist?

What is the racial component?

I didn’t get it either. But I wasn’t about to question an officer!

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Hopefully someday you will learn insulting over half the population won't help get your point across. Whatever your point is. As a Democrat I don't support our involvement in Ukraine and don't care what Finland does. But will Finland's wall stood aircraft?

We were told in unison by dimocrats when President Trump started the border wall that fences & walls doesn't work and it was racist to block the illegal migrants from entering our country.

I just assumed dimocrats think the same when other countries put up border walls.

 

[WBO]

Racist?

What is the racial component?

The style is consistent with Nazi symbolism. Look at the waiters's faces. The large noses, rounded faces and notice the areas around the noses sre accented in red to call attention there. (They're also heavy, indicating they are living off the fat of the land.) It's aimed at what the Nazis said were Jewish war profiteers. I'm guessing if you spent a couple of hours searching you would find the cartoon in its original version. Pretty consistent style.

Look up the posters for a Goebbels propaganda movie called "The Eternal Jew." Really awful stuff, but you will see the same approach.

Big amateur WW 2 historian. Father was shot down over occupied Europe and underground smuggled him through to middle east and back to his wing.

Wonder what was running through Goebbels mind as he took the poison. Probably what would happen if the Russians got him first. One of the people who truly deserved the treatment from "Law Abiding Citizen."