Breaking news: LSU to face Alabama in National Championship Game

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MWR said:
To me, one of the most exciting times in sports is when an underdog participant gets "hot" and wins a game they were not expected to win. They were the best team when it mattered.
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So you concede that in leagues that employ a playoff system, the regular season doesn't matter? Why even waste the time with those pointless games and go straight to the playoffs?

You just made my point. Adding a playoff to college football will render the regular season pointless, and thereby destroy what actually makes the sport so great. No other sports league in the nation has a regular season where meaningful games can be played any and every week from the first to last weekend of the season.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
So you concede that in leagues that employ a playoff system, the regular season doesn't matter? Why even waste the time with those pointless games and go straight to the playoffs?

You just made my point. Adding a playoff to college football will render the regular season pointless, and thereby destroy what actually makes the sport so great. No other sports league in the nation has a regular season where meaningful games can be played any and every week from the first to last weekend of the season.
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how would it be pointless? You would still need to be a top team to even make the playoffs and that happens with the regular season.

Also, how meaningful was the first LSU/bama game?
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
So you concede that in leagues that employ a playoff system, the regular season doesn't matter? Why even waste the time with those pointless games and go straight to the playoffs?

You just made my point. Adding a playoff to college football will render the regular season pointless, and thereby destroy what actually makes the sport so great. No other sports league in the nation has a regular season where meaningful games can be played any and every week from the first to last weekend of the season.
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A regular season would not be renderee pointless.

The people saying that a playoff will just decide who gets hot need to take a step back and look at the entire picture. If the team that was the best in the refular season really is the best, then they will win in the playoffs.
 
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utvolpj said:
how would it be pointless? You would still need to be a top team to even make the playoffs and that happens with the regular season.

Also, how meaningful was the first LSU/bama game?
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Pretty meaningful actually. That game cemented LSU position as a clear cut #1 team in the nation, but at the same time Alabama's level of play in that game helped serve as a tie-breaker between two teams battling for #2 that had very comparable resumes. If Alabama come out and looked like they didn't belong on the same field as LSU, it's almost certainly OK St. is playing in the NCG instead of the Tide.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Pretty meaningful actually. That game cemented LSU position as a clear cut #1 team in the nation, but at the same time Alabama's level of play in that game helped serve as a tie-breaker between two teams battling for #2 that had very comparable resumes. If Alabama come out and looked like they didn't belong on the same field as LSU, it's almost certainly OK St. is playing in the NCG instead of the Tide.
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Have to completely disagree. They were #1/2 going in and are still #1/2 but it affected the season? If they had not played what would it have done?
 
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DarthVisor said:
A regular season would not be renderee pointless.

The people saying that a playoff will just decide who gets hot need to take a step back and look at the entire picture. If the team that was the best in the refular season really is the best, then they will win in the playoffs.
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My point is that in a playoff system, the team who was best in September may not be the best in January, and vice versa. Take last season for example. For the first month and a half of the NFL season, the Green Bay Packers were at best very mediocre. However, thanks to the playoff system that favors the team who gets on a hot streak at the right time, those first 6 weeks were rendered absolutely meaningless. The BCS system forces teams to be strong from the first to last week of the season and rewards the two teams who over the course of 3 months have shown they are the best. A playoff system on the other hand allows teams to tread water for weeks on end and then get hot come January and still be crowned champion.
 
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utvolpj said:
Have to completely disagree. They were #1/2 going in and are still #1/2 but it affected the season? If they had not played what would it have done?
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Allowed OK St. to play for a NC. Like it or not, that performance against LSU is what got Alabama into the NCG. For 4 quarters they showed that they were LSU's equal, and only after overtime could the two teams be separated. If you are as good as the #1 team in the nation for a full 60 minutes, then what better argument could you ever make for being #2?
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
My point is that in a playoff system, the team who was best in September may not be the best in January, and vice versa. Take last season for example. For the first month and a half of the NFL season, the Green Bay Packers were at best very mediocre. However, thanks to the playoff system that favors the team who gets on a hot streak at the right time, those first 6 weeks were rendered absolutely meaningless. The BCS system forces teams to be strong from the first to last week of the season and rewards the two teams who over the course of 3 months have shown they are the best. A playoff system on the other hand allows teams to tread water for weeks on end and then get hot come January and still be crowned champion.
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We decide the title in January now. In the system we have, it's not where you start, but where you finish. A playoff doesn't change it that much.
 
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Consider me in the minority of liking regular season excellence rewarded. I wish baseball would do away with playoffs entirely and just have the WS. Not a fan of the NFL playoffs because it seems like a wild card round team always wins the super bowl after sucking or mediocrity throughout the first half of the season. The NBA works out because of seven game series starting in round 1.

I wouldn't want to see anything more than a plus one because four teams is the most you can have most years; everybody has to try and be perfect from the word 'go.' I can't ever remember a case of somebody looking at the #5 team in the nation and saying "yeah they got screwed."
 
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#360
Here's the deal with having a playoff. You would have the best teams - determined largely by W/L records - in the playoffs.

Any team "threading water" could be eliminated by losing a game or two early in the season. I think this makes all the games meaningful.
 
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#361
Alabama is more than likely the second best team in the country, with that said, they shouldn't be in the National Title game for one simple reason.

If Alabama wins, what does it prove?

It certainly doesn't prove that Alabama is better than LSU.

The system needs to be tweaked.
 
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DarthVisor said:
You basically called LSU's performance a fluke because they made great plays and scored more points. You're hardly in a position to be calling anybody an idiot.

Here's hoping LSU wins by thirty.
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So far you have inferred "robbed" and "fluke" from my comments. Thus we know for sure you ace the complete inability to comprehend the following words:

A
The
Ball
Play
Can
Fluke
Robbed
Made

I am confident this is only a condensed list.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Who said they can argue it? I said argument is limited and will be weak. The title on the game is crap when it's pieced together in such a pathetic fashion. The résumé review is a bullshiz approach to title game inclusion because of disparity of schedules. That said, OSU played a better schedule and beat better teams. AL is in this game based upon a quality loss, which is stupid as hell. It's the argument Vol fans were making last year in support of Dooley.
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Oh yes, much better now. Winning the NC game against the number 1 team is a weak argument. So much clearer. Bravo.

The 2 best teams are playing. Simple as that.
 
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thebjd said:
How can you want Bama in the title game? Go SEC!!! Bama had their shot at home and didn't win. LSU should not have to play them again and the more interesting matchup would be OSU's offense against LSU's defense. Let Bama play Andrew Luck or something. I propose a best of seven series between Alabam and LSU so we will know for sure who the better team is.
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I want the 2 best teams to play, I can't help that Alabama is one of them.

OSU is about as interesting as watching paint dry.
 
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#365
The results of the regular season tell us:
a) Bama isn't as good as LSU, and isn't the best team in their conference
b) Oklahoma State is the best team in their conference

I'd rather see Oklahoma State get a shot to validate their team, schedule, and conference instead of seeing Alabama get two shots.
 
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allvol123 said:
So far you have inferred "robbed" and "fluke" from my comments. Thus we know for sure you ace the complete inability to comprehend the following words:

A
The
Ball
Play
Can
Fluke
Robbed
Made

I am confident this is only a condensed list.
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You can keep attacking me, but it doesn't change the fact that your arguments about Alabama being the clear number two and the BCS doing it's job are dead-ass wrong. Alabama's only crutch against OSU is that OSU lost at ISU the same day a tragic event took place for their university. Aside from that, OSU's resume was better. Also, unlike Alabama, they actually won their conference. If Alabama was truly better than LSU, then they would have beat them in Tuscaloosa. Lucky for them that the BCS is a damn joke. There have been several years when this system has failed or when theit has been reasonable doubt about who should be in the championship game, including.this year.
 
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#367
:unsure:
DarthVisor said:
You can keep attacking me, but it doesn't change the fact that your arguments about Alabama being the clear number two and the BCS doing it's job are dead-ass wrong. Alabama's only crutch against OSU is that OSU lost at ISU the same day a tragic event took place for their university. Aside from that, OSU's resume was better. Also, unlike Alabama, they actually won their conference. If Alabama was truly better than LSU they would have beat them in Tuscaloosa. Lucky for them that the BCS is a damn joke. There have been several years when this system has failed or when theit has been reasonable doubt about who should be in the championship game, including.this year.
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I support a playoff and dislike the BCS. That said, I give it some credit since it kept some garbage team like OSU out of the title game.
 
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#373
This year is probably the best argument for pointing out the shortcomings of the BCS since 2004. I'd love to see a 4 team playoff.

Unfortunately, 4 would probably grow into 16 in about 15 years.
 
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