Bruce Feldman and Tim Brando criticize the SEC's handling of LSU/Florida

[LSU-SIU]

and again, if it was, and FL said no, regardless of the reason, why is that not out in front?

Generally speaking, I think LSU has done what they could in all aspects, at least till this point. Now I am not saying they will cooperate like parties might desire in the future but up till this point nothing further really could be done by them.

I think Alleva and King have addressed most of the main points, obviously they had to address some false stories ran by ESPN. Also, just remember probably not all the information has been made available, maybe LSU is telling a story which is not completely true. I doubt it, but lets wait to hear the SEC, which is funny how quiet they are. lol:

It could be that LSU is at fault, but not based on the information we have available at the moment. imo It should have never been either LSU/UF's fault as the SEC should have mitigated the potential issues. So, its an SEC problem whether or not it was a plan.

The last problem with the SEC is they might have burned the bridge down to LSU by Stinkey misrepresenting facts Saturday on the air. Which is why LSU probably put in stipulations if October 29th was to be used. Trust in the SEC is gone as far as LSU is concerned at this moment, if I were to guess and maybe justifiable so.

 

[The Ron Mexico]

Jayson Swain has a good idea:

 

[jakez4ut]

Generally speaking, I think LSU has done what they could in all aspects, at least till this point. Now I am not saying they will cooperate like parties might desire in the future but up till this point nothing further really could be done by them.

I think Alleva and King have addressed most of the main points, obviously they had to address some false stories ran by ESPN. Also, just remember probably not all the information has been made available, maybe LSU is telling a story which is not completely true. I doubt it, but lets wait to hear the SEC, which is funny how quiet they are. lol:

It could be that LSU is at fault, but not based on the information we have available at the moment. imo It should have never been either LSU/UF's fault as the SEC should have mitigated the potential issues. So, its an SEC problem whether or not it was a plan.

The last problem with the SEC is they might have burned the bridge down to LSU by Stinkey misrepresenting facts Saturday on the air. Which is why LSU probably put in stipulations if October 29th was to be used. Trust in the SEC is gone as far as LSU is concerned at this moment, if I were to guess and maybe justifiable so.

if this plays out the way it's currently set to play out, LSU won't be alone in that boat.

but again, you see where i'm coming from....Alleva has had no problem speaking his mind, so again, if they asked about monday....and they're pissed at the SEC anyway....it makes no sense to not make that public, and given his pointed comments on Monday, i have no doubt that if that was the case, he'd of made it known, specifically, during that press conference.

i really don't care about the LSU perspective here. i do find it interesting though that no one has offered up a good reason why, if Monday was offered by LSU, that it hasn't been brought up by LSU. saying Saturday and sunday options were put out there as specifics....is great, understanding FL said no to those, is great. it does establish that LSU did something.

but again, i still can't get past the fact that if monday was put out there by LSU and FL said no, and the SEC did nothing about that if it was a viable option....why on Earth is LSU not shouting that from the mountain tops at this point? this has devolved in to what LOOKS like a pissing contest, and no one looks good.

 

[onevol74]

I have seen no evidence that either team made an effort to play or reschedule this game. And both were rewarded with a week off to get their stars healthy again. Neither one of them have anything to gain by playing this game and should be sanctioned for not meeting their conference obligations of playing eight games.

 

[LA Vol]

FPI predicts UT will lose to #1 Bama and UF will win out against #22 Arkansas, #26 Georgia and unranked Mizzou. So far, Vegas concurs.

Meanwhile, anybody can see that UF and LSU ADs aren't budging. Rescheduling requires compromise, and that's not happening. So Sankey, your move. The whole CFB community is waiting... and watching.

 

[LSU-SIU]

but again, i still can't get past the fact that if monday was put out there by LSU and FL said no, and the SEC did nothing about that if it was a viable option....why on Earth is LSU not shouting that from the mountain tops at this point? this has devolved in to what LOOKS like a pissing contest, and no one looks good.

Florida probably hasn't said no to moving the game to Sunday. So? LOL

Florida was in a position to do nothing, and that is exactly what they did. I'm not sure LSU even used the word rejected (although they might take silence as rejection), as I would. Florida was in a position to do nothing, they did nothing last week, they did nothing this last weekend, and they probably did nothing this week. Its a SEC failure.

You are doing more work on this thread than Florida has done on this game in 10 days. There is no incentive for Florida to even expend the energy to reject a proposal.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Since LSU and UF seem more interested in talking about not playing football than playing their SEC games perhaps our SEC officers should put their membership up for a vote at the next meeting. I see no reason we should inconvenience both institutions with games they don't think they are capable of playing.

The ACC and B12 could use some help. Maybe the MAC is a better fit?

Edit: let's trade the ACC for Louisville and Fla St. two great teams that fit geographically. Throw their chicken **** asses outta the SEC

 

[LA Vol]

Frankly, I think the continued mishandling of a situation that negatively impacts the integrity of the SEC is a fireable offense for Sankey. A weak leader weakens a conference.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Frankly, I think the continued mishandling of a situation that negatively impacts the integrity of the SEC is a fireable offense for Sankey. A weak leader weakens a conference.

Couldn't agree more. Exactly two fourteenths of the votes probably love the currrent situation however exactly twelve fourteenths of the votes should be madder than hell.

Call an emergency meeting, fire his ass, make assist commish acting. Could not possibly be worse than we are right now.

 

[LA Vol]

Couldn't agree more. Exactly two fourteenths of the votes probably love the currrent situation however exactly twelve fourteenths of the votes should be madder than hell.

Call an emergency meeting, fire his ass, make assist commish acting. Could not possibly be worse than we are right now.

Or bring back Slive as interim commissioner (health permitting). He's a fixer, and the SEC buys time to find a commissioner who can lead and crisis-manage tough situations.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Also, it is a heck of a lot easier to move a soccer team and a volleyball team around than it is to move an SEC football team.

Don't disagree with this but Foley said in his press conference speech Thursday before the cancelled game something like "these athletes have families they need to be with or need to help instead of playing football."

Then he sends their vollyball team where the actual hurricane makes landfall in South Carolina and the soccer team to Ole Miss.

And my answer to that is ROFLMFAO! lol:

 

[The Ron Mexico]

Don't disagree with this but Foley said in his press conference speech Thursday before the cancelled game something like "these athletes have families they need to be with or need to help instead of playing football."

Then he sends their vollyball team where the actual hurricane makes landfall in South Carolina and the soccer team to Ole Miss.

And my answer to that is ROFLMFAO! lol:

Cowards tend to be liars, as well.

 

[jakez4ut]

Florida probably hasn't said no to moving the game to Sunday. So? LOL

Florida was in a position to do nothing, and that is exactly what they did. I'm not sure LSU even used the word rejected (although they might take silence as rejection), as I would. Florida was in a position to do nothing, they did nothing last week, they did nothing this last weekend, and they probably did nothing this week. Its a SEC failure.

You are doing more work on this thread than Florida has done on this game in 10 days. There is no incentive for Florida to even expend the energy to reject a proposal.

all fine points, but that still doesn't address my question.

 

[LSU-SIU]

all fine points, but that still doesn't address my question.

I would say most of the real questions should be directed and answered by the SEC office. I am not sure everyone is going to get the answers they really want to hear. Most of what is being talked about at this point are fairly immaterial at this point.

At the end of the day, this has got to end, I mentioned it last Wednesday, LSU needs to just tell the SEC its their problem. LSU couldn't fight it alone, nor should them, and I said that over a week ago. That is more or less what they did, by their interviews and press conference I would say it is highly likely that LSU's legal staff was involved. They had to stop the crap show from coming back into LSU's lap which is why they put restrictions on what they would consider in the future.

As a LSU fan, the only thing that really matters is they have a game with Southern Miss, anything else is not a large concern, but I seriously doubt there are proposals on the table anyhow.

My guess remains that the game will be unlikely to be played, which I suspect the LSU attorneys agree. All the questions as far as future games are really SEC concerns at this point.

 

[jakez4ut]

I would say most of the real questions should be directed and answered by the SEC office. I am not sure everyone is going to get the answers they really want to hear. Most of what is being talked about at this point are fairly immaterial at this point.

At the end of the day, this has got to end, I mentioned it last Wednesday, LSU needs to just tell the SEC its their problem. LSU couldn't fight it alone, nor should them, and I said that over a week ago. That is more or less what they did, by their interviews and press conference I would say it is highly likely that LSU's legal staff was involved. They had to stop the crap show from coming back into LSU's lap which is why they put restrictions on what they would consider in the future.

As a LSU fan, the only thing that really matters is they have a game with Southern Miss, anything else is not a large concern, but I seriously doubt there are proposals on the table anyhow.

My guess remains that the game will be unlikely to be played, which I suspect the LSU attorneys agree. All the questions as far as future games are really SEC concerns at this point.

do you or do you not agree that had LSU offered up Monday, in Gainesville, that that would be the single most effective way to show who's truly culpable here? that being FL and the SEC....

 

[LA Vol]

Ask any attorney and s/he will tell you this game isn't going to be rescheduled now. I'm sure legal is already looped in for schools directly and indirectly impacted.

 

[The Ron Mexico]

I don't know why anyone would think this game will be played. What has led you to believe that?

It doesn't matter how many good, bad, or reasonable solutions anyone comes up with. They are not playing.

 

[jakez4ut]

i will say this, if they are going to replay it, and move it to the 19th, there are a lot of things that have to be worked out, so if that's the case, i can understand why it's been quiet the last 3 or so days. i do believe the conf is working, probably very hard, to make something happen. but there's no point now in any more public communication until there's a resolution, one way or the other.

the next time there's any public communication, it will be to announce whatever that resolution is.

 

[LSU-SIU]

do you or do you not agree that had LSU offered up Monday, in Gainesville, that that would be the single most effective way to show who's truly culpable here? that being FL and the SEC....

That has nothing to do with who is culpable, the SEC had the responsibility to mitigate the potential fallout.

I have no idea as I don't have first handle knowledge but it really doesn't matter. It was reported that LSU offered quite a lot including Monday. LSU didn't need to offer anything. Florida was not going to switch to Monday anyway so the point is moot. The SEC had a responsibility to force Florida to decide something.

Most of your questions are moot at this time, it doesn't matter as the SEC signed off on this.

Well, I out for a bit, probably won't come around until the SEC decides to get involved.

Good luck with Alabama this weekend. :cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

 

[jakez4ut]

That has nothing to do with who is culpable, the SEC had the responsibility to mitigate the potential fallout.

I have no idea as I don't have first handle knowledge but it really doesn't matter. It was reported that LSU offered quite a lot including Monday. LSU didn't need to offer anything. Florida was not going to switch to Monday anyway so the point is moot. The SEC had a responsibility to force Florida to decide something.

Most of your questions are moot at this time, it doesn't matter as the SEC signed off on this.

Well, I out for a bit, probably won't come around until the SEC decides to get involved.

Good luck with Alabama this weekend. :cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

the only reason i keep asking is because you have vehemently defended LSU in this, and consistently claimed "not our problem".

all you had to do is answer...yes or no. of course it's all moot, Monday came and went. but your non answer tells me all i need to know.

 

[NorthDallas40]

the only reason i keep asking is because you have vehemently defended LSU in this, and consistently claimed "not our problem".

all you had to do is answer...yes or no. of course it's all moot, Monday came and went. but your non answer tells me all i need to know.

Oh he answered it. He took the 5th basically. 😬

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Hopefully we beat Bama and LSU beats bama and a 5-2 LSU goes to the SECCG over a 6-2 Bama.

Love to hear Sabans 6 word comment of "They need to play that game" go to a full blown train wreck 30 minute podium pounding.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Oh he answered it. He took the 5th basically. 😬

I have the same information as the rest of the world on this issue, there is nothing for me to take the 5th on. Either way the issue is moot.

I'm not sure why you guys are so upset, and not sure why you are mad at me, but hate on.

Have a good week and enjoy the game, life really isn't that bad.

 

[jakez4ut]

I have the same information as the rest of the world on this issue, there is nothing for me to take the 5th on. Either way the issue is moot.

I'm not sure why you guys are so upset, and not sure why you are mad at me, but hate on.

Have a good week and enjoy the game, life really isn't that bad.

i'm not upset. i asked a question, you haven't answered it. and that is an answer in and of itself.

 

[LSU-SIU]

i'm not upset. i asked a question, you haven't answered it. and that is an answer in and of itself.

You are upset.

I answered with the most information have, which is the same information that is available to you. You actually asked me to agree or disagree... which is a strawman argument.

As far as what was reported, and LSU spokesman and my sources said Saturday through Monday, but Alleva didn't mention it during his press event.
LSU vs. Florida postponed: How decision made, what options exist for make-up date | LSU | theadvocate.com

LSU spokesman Michael Bonnette said the Tigers also offered to host the game on Monday.

As far as what I believe, based on the information that is publically available it appears Saturday through Monday. Either way it doesn't matter, its irrelevant and immaterial.

I'm not sure what you want from all your questions the vast majority of them should be directed the SEC office or are troll-like in appearance.

Have a good weekend, get off the computer, I promise life is not that horrible.