Bruce Feldman and Tim Brando criticize the SEC's handling of LSU/Florida

LSU as far as I know acted in good faith, I haven't heard contrary so far. The SEC failed to mitigate the potential damage last week. LSU now has other obligations and contracts, and responsibility, LSU has a whole season, not just one game.

Not sure what is so difficult to understand.

I think you are being quite melodramatic about all this, it will probably work out but LSU has been harmed and there is a good possibility they are out of the West race because of this.

I'm not sure what you are so angry about.

I like LSU and I hate Florida but if this game isn't played I don't give a crap who's in the right or wrong. It's not right and both sides will only play if they have to.

If LSU wins out and so does Bama there is zero chance they allow the Florida game to just pass.

This game needs to be played for integrity and the politics on both sides needs to cease.
 
LSU and UF at war with each other? Are you crazy? This was an act of collusion to gain a competitive advantage by both programs. You even said the LSU has no desire to play this game. Both teams should be eliminated from conference championship competition and sanctioned.

If I would summarize what I have said, although lots was said about it... it was never in LSU's control, by Wednesday LSU gave up because there was nothing further to do, by Wednesday-Thursday the SEC had signed off on UF not pushing the game back or to new locations, or combination of both.

There probably is limited desire to play the game now, as it will only damage LSU further, like I said (or similar) last Wednesday-Thursday.... nothing has changed in a week because there are no options for LSU. Florida would be silly to offer dates, times and locations now... their plan worked... flawlessly till this point.

LSU is virtually eliminated from the SECCG, but its not a done deal so that is really here nor there to me, but I doubt they do anything you suggest... most probably they will have to make accommodations.
 
I like LSU and I hate Florida but if this game isn't played I don't give a crap who's in the right or wrong. It's not right and both sides will only play if they have to.

If LSU wins out and so does Bama there is zero chance they allow the Florida game to just pass.

This game needs to be played for integrity and the politics on both sides needs to cease.

Oh agree, its messed up, but I don't know why all these guys are angry at me. I was posting last T-W about how messed up this was going to be, it wasn't hard to predict.

The SEC will come up with an equitable solution, not everyone is going to be happy, but at the end of the day, I am not sure much changes.

Florida's plan work flawlessly, no way they agree to anything right now.... they'll probably take the call and say... okay... we'll review it and get back with you. (2 months later the end of the season)

I seriously don't think they have spoken about the "game" since last week in depth.
 
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The sad thing is that he sometimes does not seem to understand just how bad he makes LSU look in all of this.

I don't represent LSU, just a fan.

I'm not sure why you two are so upset at me, but hate away, if it makes you feel better.
 
I don't represent LSU, just a fan.

I'm not sure why you two are so upset at me, but hate away, if it makes you feel better.

You act like an internet scanner that's whole job is to protect your university. We're on a Tennessee board and unfortunately you're half of our problem.
 
You act like an internet scanner that's whole job is to protect your university. We're on a Tennessee board and unfortunately you're half of our problem.

What does this even mean? (don't answer)

What are you so angry about? Life really isn't that bad.
 
Not angry. Your two teams need to play the game even if your both chewing on 4 losses.

I remain doubtful the game gets played for the reasons mentioned several times in this thread, I won't say impossible but I would bet against it. Time will tell, but it would take lots of money, work and probably more trouble to get the game in than its worth.

The only date I see working even if the SEC agreed is December 3rd, and I doubt Florida will agree to a neutral site.
 
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I remain doubtful the game gets played for the reasons mentioned several times in this thread, I won't say impossible but I would bet against it. Time will tell, but it would take lots of money, work and probably more trouble to get the game in.

The only date I see working even if the SEC agreed is December 3rd, and I doubt Florida will agree to a neutral site.

Then I (a Tennessee fan) don't give a crap what the excuses are. You're both in the same boat with the commish and can pound sand.
 
Then I (a Tennessee fan) don't give a crap what the excuses are. You're both in the same boat with the commish and can pound sand.

So... what about this... schedule the game for November 19th, Florida can host it, whatever. LSU just doesn't show up and get the L.

What you are really wanting is LSU to beat a team for you, you are going to be upset until you get what you want. You don't see a problem with that?
 
Don't care. Play.

What about this... do what I said above... play in Florida on November 19th. LSU sends the walk-on scout team over they have whoot of a time playing against Florida there. Mean while, LSU plays South Alabama in Baton Rouge with the scholarship players.

So, now you have LSU playing Florida, everyone is happy at this point, right?
 
IDT the game will be played, either. Almost every commentator, analyst and columnist emphatically insists it will, but from a practical standpoint, it's unlikely. Delay, delay, delay-- that's a popular legal tactic that UF has used to strategic advantage.

It will be interesting to see if Sankey has an announcement before this weekend. I doubt that he will. He'll want to wait and see if UT loses and UF wins. If that happens, the crap will hit the fan at warp speed and start spattering.

Exactly as I see it and I think LSU saw it last Tuesday-Wednesday. LSU is throwing out solutions, and Foley was like... we'll get back with you but right now we're scheduled for 11 am Saturday. :)

Someone is going to be eating a lot of money either way, if it did happen, as you mentioned, probably not going to happen, but you never know.
 
What about this... do what I said above... play in Florida on November 19th. LSU sends the walk-on scout team over they have whoot of a time playing against Florida there. Mean while, LSU plays South Alabama in Baton Rouge with the scholarship players.

So, now you have LSU playing Florida, everyone is happy at this point, right?

You might be insane.
 
What about this... do what I said above... play in Florida on November 19th. LSU sends the walk-on scout team over they have whoot of a time playing against Florida there. Mean while, LSU plays South Alabama in Baton Rouge with the scholarship players.

So, now you have LSU playing Florida, everyone is happy at this point, right?

So, sending your scrub team to play the gators is acting in "good faith?"

As I said, LSU does not want to play this game and is using it for an advantage. Give both of these teams forfeits and drop them from the championship competition. Let them take the conference to court if that is their wish. I would love to expose all of the conversations that took place in this disaster.

I am not mad at all, just amused how you think you think the SEC has no options here.
 
You might be insane.

You are late to the party. :) This became bizarro world last Wednesday morning.

The problem I think some of these UT fans have, is this really can't be fixed, yet they want a fix. And what the truly want is their desired outcome which is what my last example was about. Interesting enough, I have for almost a week now suggested just assign a forfeit to LSU, and I truly believe if this goes on any further that would have been the best thing for LSU.
 
So, sending your scrub team to play the gators is acting in "good faith?"

The point was, you don't really care about the game... you want your desired outcome. You don't want a game, you want a LSU victory. Any change to LSU's schedule would not be done in good faith, so yes, considering all factors... and your desire to see a game... I actually think it is good faith.

For the record, I would probably rather just let it forfeit.


As I said, LSU does not want to play this game and is using it for an advantage. Give both of these teams forfeits and drop them from the championship competition.

I have said for almost a week now to give the forfeit to LSU, you do know that is basically already happened? How is a forfeit an advantage? (So confused) LSU was hurt the same way Tennessee was hurt, get it?

Let them take the conference to court if that is their wish.

For what? I would love to know.


I would love to expose all of the conversations that took place in this disaster.

I am not mad at all, just amused how you think you think the SEC has no options here.

Sure they have options, no real good ones that I can see. But if you have one, I am all ears if you want to converse about it. Yes, you and a few other fellows are coming off as very upset.
 
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You are late to the party. :) This became bizarro world last Wednesday morning.

The problem I think some of these UT fans have, is this really can't be fixed, yet they want a fix. And what the truly want is their desired outcome which is what my last example was about. Interesting enough, I have for almost a week now suggested just assign a forfeit to LSU, and I truly believe if this goes on any further that would have been the best thing for LSU.

Further evidence for my argument that both teams never wanted to play this game and both are using it for an advantage. If LSU is willing to accept a forfeit that is a basis for collusion. Both eliminated a tough game on their schedule to get players healthy. Pure and simple. That is why neither should be qualified to go to the SECCG.
 
Further evidence for my argument that both teams never wanted to play this game and both are using it for an advantage. If LSU is willing to accept a forfeit that is a basis for collusion. Both eliminated a tough game on their schedule to get players healthy. Pure and simple. That is why neither should be qualified to go to the SECCG.

First I said give LSU a forfeit, they didn't. Second, are you for real or trolling now... I really can't tell. :eek:lol:

I don't represent or work for LSU, I'm a fan. Trust me I know you don't work or represent Tennessee... that is real clear to me.
 
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The point was, you don't really care about the game... you want your desired outcome. You don't want a game, you want a LSU victory. Any change to LSU's schedule would not be done in good faith, so yes, considering all factors... and your desire to see a game... I actually think it is good faith.

For the record, I would probably rather just let it forfeit.




I have said for almost a week now to give the forfeit to LSU, you do know that is basically already happened? How is a forfeit an advantage? (So confused) LSU was hurt the same way Tennessee was hurt, get it?



For what? I would love to know.




Sure they have options, no real good ones that I can see. But if you have one, I am all ears if you want to converse about it. Yes, you and a few other fellows are coming off as very upset.


No one is upset. We have all made rational conclusions about the situation. You are incorrect in saying the SEC does not have good options.
 
No one is upset. We have all made rational conclusions about the situation. You are incorrect in saying the SEC does not have good options.

Hmmm. Hopefully this doesn't sound mean.

The way I would put it, is you are jumping to conclusions but they are not rational. What I would suggest is you take a breather, my guess Stinkey has plenty of counsel now or I hope so. They will eventually come up with a plan, not everyone is going to like it, and if they go the wrong way you might not have parties even acknowledge the plan or even comply with the plan the way the SEC envisions it.

Either way, the parties will or should be going down the path they should have been going last week. This path in theory will have judicial review at some point if parties wish to seek it, including injunction relief. It is not far-fetched to think that this could effect the SECCG, although that is a long jump from here, and I seriously doubt it gets that far.

My guess, is the same as I made earlier.

1. The 8-game requirement, if there is one, will be lifted or altered.
2. The divisional winners will go by divisional record.
3. The UF-LSU game can then be played if the parties want to or cancelled if they want to, as it has no bearing on the divisional race.
4. My guess is a Vols v. Bama matchup in the SECCG which was my preseason guess as well.

This is the easiest solution by far, at least I can think of, Florida in theory will not receive any noticeable advantage, LSU won't be hurt like they were if it went by percentages. This cost no money, and no reason for LSU to try and work with Foley.

Time will tell. Have a good nite.
 
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tex1979 989 posts Oct 10, 4:45 PM via Mobile
Last week, it would have been hard to win out if we had played the game with Florida when scheduled. Now if you schedule it for October 29, 2016, it will be even more. One big hurdle for Coach O in getting the job is beating Alabama. Is he getting a fair shot when you have to play Florida and then Alabama in a row? I'm with Alleva, it is December 3 or bust

From the LSU board. You can't make this stuff up! Oh the horror of having to play FL and AL within two weeks.
 
From the LSU board. You can't make this stuff up! Oh the horror of having to play FL and AL within two weeks.

It is if you believe someone is gaming the system and that action is the cause of the damage. That was really never a possibility anyway.

Of course, people are also suggesting that LSU play 3 road SEC games in 12 days.
 
From the LSU board. You can't make this stuff up! Oh the horror of having to play FL and AL within two weeks.

Or maybe FLA GA TAMU and UA all in one four week stretch? Hahahaha yeah I know the SEC wouldn't expect anybody to do that. Oh wait...

And yet as banged up as we are nobody wants to avoid a damn thing. Anywhere, anytime. THAT is a SEC football mindset.
 
Or maybe FLA GA TAMU and UA all in one four week stretch? Hahahaha yeah I know the SEC wouldn't expect anybody to do that. Oh wait...

And yet as banged up as we are nobody wants to avoid a damn thing. Anywhere, anytime. THAT is a SEC football mindset.

Lol I honestly cant believe what I'm reading coming from the fans over there. Complete whiny horse💩!
 

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