Bruce Pearl is a better basketball coach than Kevin O'Neill

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LawVol13 said:
He absolutely would have been more successful. If a dumbass like Jerry Green could win big with his players, you can bet KO would have as well. He's obviously a good basketball guy; you just don't get NBA jobs if you're an idiot. But, he has propensity to get involved in controversy that has led to him being a coaching nomad. My opinion is that schematically, he is head and shoulders above Pearl; however, Pearl is probably better at motivating players.
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KO may just be a good used car salesman.:eek:lol:
 
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cotton said:
Yes. Adding smilies will not change that.


"Kevin is our coach for now, and will be our coach in the future when Lute decides to retire," athletic director Jim Livengood said.
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Is today not the future? Where is he?
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bamacheats said:
Is today not the future? Where is he?
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I'm not sure how to argue with someone who simply denies indisputable proof of their wrongness. You said he was not offered the Arizona job. I've linked an ESPN article and a quote from the Arizona AD positively dispelling that, yet you persist.

I guess you are winning?
 
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hatvol96 said:
Take it up with about three quarters of the UTAD, including the beloved play by play announcer. I don't care what you believe.
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Mears was on a bunch of road trips, including but not limited to UGA, throughout KO's tenure as coach. Many times he had his oxygen with him as his health deteriorated. If he was asked to not be on a bus, it was due to health risks to Mears and/or Mears' health being too risky to road trip on a bus and the UTAD's associated risk. That's quite a different story and twist than saying Dickey told KO to throw Mears off the bus. Don't know who added the twist of "throwing Mears off", but it's not true. And that comes from within the current ath dept.
 
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"career loser kevin just didn't have his players, after 3 seasons. he would have made another nit had he not decided to leave an obviously dreadful situation that he later stated he regretted abandoning. duh."
 
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cotton said:
I'm not sure how to argue with someone who simply denies indisputable proof of their wrongness. You said he was not offered the Arizona job. I've linked an ESPN article and a quote from the Arizona AD positively dispelling that, yet you persist.

I guess you are winning?
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He was offered the job as a recruiting tool. That's a fact that is indisputable. Their was no search, Lute could have returned, it kept stability, therefore it was out of default.

Your "proof" also mentioned the "future", so once again, oh wise one of history, where is he in this "future" your proof speaks of?
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bamacheats said:
He was offered the job as a recruiting tool. That's a fact that is indisputable. Their was no search, Lute could have returned, it kept stability, therefore it was out of default.

Your "proof" also mentioned the "future", so once again, oh wise one of history, where is he in this "future" your proof speaks of?
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Okay. Well, cotton gave us a source, where is yours?
 
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bamacheats said:
They fall back on his 90s record. In the end, all you O'neill supporters are sounding like gibbs defending Fulmer.
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The difference is O'Neill manages to find employment and never got fired from Tennessee.


And anyways, that still doesn't make your analogy less ridiculous. Fulmer defenders like Gibbs keep bringing up his record. That's not the same defense of O'Neill at all, so I'm not sure what makes you think the two are comparable.
 
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tvolsfan said:
The difference is O'Neill manages to find employment and never got fired from Tennessee.


And anyways, that still doesn't make your analogy less ridiculous. Fulmer defenders like Gibbs keep bringing up his record. That's not the same defense of O'Neill at all, so I'm not sure what makes you think the two are comparable.
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O'neill supporters can't bring up his record because he's a career loser. It mirrors Fulmer's record when he no longer had the Duboses of the world to out talent.

Bottom line is both groups look like idiots when common sense screams that they are losers.
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Edit: fwiw. At least Fulmer will be in his sport's HOF.
 
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bamacheats said:
O'neill supporters can't bring up his record because he's a career loser. It mirrors Fulmer's record when he no longer had the Duboses of the world to out talent.
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That's still a completely different argument. O'Neill supporters are arguing there is more to O'Neill than just his record. Fulmer supporters like Gibbs try to cite games against Mike Dubose as evidence that Tennessee was destined for Atlanta in 2010, while supporters like vegasvol simply make up information.
 
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Maybe after bipolar O'Neill goes apeshat on Pat Hayden and his wife claws his eyes out,hatevol can give him a cushy paralegal job so he can live out his man crush in person.It must be tough to have that much love in a long distance relationship......:cray:
 
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VFL1964- said:
Maybe after bipolar O'Neill goes apeshat on Pat Hayden and his wife claws his eyes out,hatevol can give him a cushy paralegal job so he can live out his man crush in person.It must be tough to have that much love in a long distance relationship......:cray:
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Why? The guy doesn't seem to have any problem finding a job.
 
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VFL1964- said:
Maybe after bipolar O'Neill goes apeshat on Pat Hayden and his wife claws his eyes out,hatevol can give him a cushy paralegal job so he can live out his man crush in person.It must be tough to have that much love in a long distance relationship......:cray:
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Aaron Hayden's dad?
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tvolsfan said:
Why? The guy doesn't seem to have any problem finding a job.
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Its keeping them he has a problem with and a .497 win record as a head coach and anyone defending that is not as knowlegeable as they claim to be.He also has been divorced as hatevol loves to point out about Pearl and O'Neill is not a model of character by any standard except the hypocrite hatevol....:yes:
 
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tvolsfan said:
That's still a completely different argument. O'Neill supporters are arguing there is more to O'Neill than just his record. Fulmer supporters like Gibbs try to cite games against Mike Dubose as evidence that Tennessee was destined for Atlanta in 2010, while supporters like vegasvol simply make up information.
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At least gibbs has Fulmer's overall record to brag about, O'neill supporters have absolute zero to hang their support on other than his propoganda.
Even in the 90s most of us realized Fulmer was a hack job who had to out talent people, but that was fine because only one other school in the league had as much talent, they just happen to also have a better coaching staff.
Records can be deceiving, but O'neill has a long enough record now to indicate that its not deceiving, he's also a hack.
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VFL1964- said:
Its keeping them he has a problem with and a .497 win record as a head coach and anyone defending that is not as knowlegeable as they claim to be.He also has been divorced as hatevol loves to point out about Pearl and O'Neill is not a model of character by any standard except the hypocrite hatevol....:yes:
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That's your argument?
 
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tvolsfan said:
That's your argument?
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I think he's implying that it's not an argument, but hat likes to try to make it into one regarding Pearl.

fwiw I think Pearl is a douchebag personally. But in the end, I don't need him as my friend so I don't really care about his personality.
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