Bruce Pearl is a better basketball coach than Kevin O'Neill

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tvols75 said:
Apparently he hasn't done that considering in his professional career he has more losses than wins. So how again has he made players do that?
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His players always do / did it. It hurts recruiting, but he has stuck to it. Him never having the talent to win is an entirely different matter. The lack of need to recruit is why he's best suited to being lead assistant in the NBA.

This thread is full of mixing coaching with recruiting and talent on hand. KO has never had a team capable of winning jack. He was putting one together here, after having run off the whole team he inherited.
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BigPapaVol said:
His players always do / did it. It hurts recruiting, but he has stuck to it. Him never having the talent to win is an entirely different matter. The lack of need to recruit is why he's best suited to being lead assistant in the NBA.

This thread is full of mixing coaching with recruiting and talent on hand. KO has never had a team capable of winning jack. He was putting one together here, after having run off the whole team he inherited.
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His players always do/did the things it took to win, but they just didn't win? And exactly, he should be an assistant. He is good at certain aspects of basketball, for instance defense. However, everything else is subpar at best.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
His players always do / did it. It hurts recruiting, but he has stuck to it. Him never having the talent to win is an entirely different matter. The lack of need to recruit is why he's best suited to being lead assistant in the NBA.

This thread is full of mixing coaching with recruiting and talent on hand. KO has never had a team capable of winning jack. He was putting one together here, after having run off the whole team he inherited.
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Coaches with a better career college coaching record than Kevin O'Neill:

John Pelphrey
Sidney Lowe
Paul Hewitt
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tvols75 said:
His players always do/did the things it took to win, but they just didn't win? And exactly, he should be an assistant. He is good at certain aspects of basketball, for instance defense. However, everything else is subpar at best.
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No it isn't. His offensive capability is just a strong. There's no such thing as a defensive guru who doesn't understand offense to the core.

Attempting to do what wins hasnothing to do with the capability of getting them done. O's weakness is anabsolute unwillingness to be political, with recruits, administrators, fans or otherwise.
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BigPapaVol said:
So? Larry Coker has a phenomenal winning percentage and a crystal football, but who's lining up to hire him?
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Remove Sidney Lowe from that list and you have a list of coaches who all have more NCAA tourney wins than Kevin O'Neill.
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BigPapaVol said:
No it isn't. His offensive capability is just a strong. There's no such thing as a defensive guru who doesn't understand offense to the core.

Attempting to do what wins hasnothing to do with the capability of getting them done. O's weakness is anabsolute unwillingness to be political, with recruits, administrators, fans or otherwise.
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Kevin O'Neill is a great coach because he attempts to win and fails. Sounds good.
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HendersonVol said:
Remove Sidney Lowe from that list and you have a list of coaches who all have more NCAA tourney wins than Kevin O'Neill.
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You missed the Coker question.

If your debate is about winning %, you're a genius.
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HendersonVol said:
Kevin O'Neill is a great coach because he attempts to win and fails. Sounds good.
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Who said that? I said he's a good coach because he's trying to get teams to do the right things, even to his detriment at the collegiate level. His old school approach simply isn't made for today's college game. Bob Knight's isn't either and he wouldnt win today, but that doesn't mean he can't coach. See , Knight lost at Tech. What's your excuse for that? Forgot how?
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BigPapaVol said:
You missed the Coker question.

If you're debate is about winning %, you're a genius.
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Your, you're.

Your attempt at choosing your or you're is at about the same clip as a Kevin O'Neill coached team.
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BigPapaVol said:
Who said that? I said he's a good coach because he's trying to get teams to do the right things, even to his detriment at the collegiate level. His old school approach simply isn't made for today's college game. Bob Knight's isn't either and he wouldnt win today, but that doesn't mean he can't coach. See , Knight lost at Tech. What's your excuse for that? Forgot how?
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So, I win. Bruce Pearl is a better college basketball coach than Kevin O'Neill.

Your argument is that Kevin O'Neill would have been a better college basketball coach than Bruce Pearl 30 years ago.
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HendersonVol said:
Your, you're.

Your attempt at choosing your or you're is at about the same clip as a Kevin O'Neill coached team.
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I think I'll hold my own with you regarding grammar. Maybe you'll note is was corrected before you posted.

Your stats vis a vis my grammar, among other things, make you look like an imbecile.
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HendersonVol said:
So, I win. Bruce Pearl is a better college basketball coach than Kevin O'Neill.

Your argument is that Kevin O'Neill would have been a better college basketball coach than Bruce Pearl 30 years ago.
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No. It's that he's a better tactician and actual coach. The showmanship, recruiting (maybe) and motivating are Pearl's realm.
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BigPapaVol said:
I think I'll hold my own with you regarding grammar. Maybe you'll note is was corrected before you posted.

Your stats vis a vis my grammar, among other things, make you look like an imbecile.
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I agree. Shouldnt have went to grammar, but i wanted to make the Kevin O'Neill .500 joke.

I could go hatvol and just creatively call you stupid. You are working your way there slowly.
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HendersonVol said:
I agree. Shouldnt have went to grammar, but i wanted to make the Kevin O'Neill .500 joke.

I could go hatvol and just creatively call you stupid. You are working your way there slowly.
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Then check the stats. Presumably, you were saying I get the your / you're usage correct at a 50% clip, a point to which imbecilic was being generous.

Seriously, did you, amidst the grammar dig, say "shouldn't have went?" Good grief.
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BigPapaVol said:
Then check the stats. Presumably, you were saying I get the your / you're usage correct at a 50% clip, a point to which imbecilic was being generous.

Seriously, did you, amidst the grammar dig, say "shouldn't have went?" Good grief.
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We all make mistakes. I'm just glad we can agree that Bruce is a better college basketball coach than Kevin.
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HendersonVol said:
We all make mistakes. I'm just glad we can agree that Bruce is a better college basketball coach than Kevin.
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Pearl has had better results. He is also reaping what he sowed as far as the AA is concerned. UT will likely feel the brunt of that. Not sure how that fits into your winning % centric world, but it's an enormous problem.

One of them will be allowed by the AA to coach next year. One won't.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Then check the stats. Presumably, you were saying I get the your / you're usage correct at a 50% clip, a point to which imbecilic was being generous.

Seriously, did you, amidst the grammar dig, say "shouldn't have went?" Good grief.
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Improper quote. He left out the apostrophe. You, sir, are banned for 5 minutes. Or less...
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Pearl has had better results. He is also reaping what he sowed as far as the AA is concerned. UT will likely feel the brunt of that. Not sure how that fits into your winning % centric world, but it's an enormous problem.

One of them will be allowed by the AA to coach next year. One won't.
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One of them will win half their games for the entire career, one of them won't. On the next, CSI.
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HendersonVol said:
One of them will win half their games for the entire career, one of them won't. On the next, CSI.
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again, one of them will still be employable next year and the other won't. The problem: cheating and lying about it.

On the cheating and lying about it topic, wonder if anyone cares that Mark McGwire hit 2,497 homers while cheating? Hmmm? Wonder what his winning % is?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
again, one of them will still be employable next year and the other won't. The problem: cheating and lying about it.

On the cheating and lying about it topic, wonder if anyone cares that Mark McGwire hit 2,497 homers while cheating? Hmmm? Wonder what his winning % is?
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This is a terrible analogy. Just awful.

You have no clue what my stance on the NCAA mess is. Nor have you thought to ask.

Fun with numbers for hatvol and his cronies:

Hatvol despises Dooley because he didn't win enough at La Tech. His winning percentage? 46%

O'Neills? 49%

People have tried to make the argument to him that people generally aren't successful at la tech(not me). This is no good for Dooley. What is O'Neills excuse for Northwestern?

In his 3rd year at La Tech, Dooley won 4 games. In his 3rd year at Northwestern, O'Neill won 5.
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