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majic73 said:
USC dominated through the air ....yeah but they dominated in rushing too !! They were fairly balanced all year ...2965 passing yards 2472 rushing yards . I think Kiffin will immulate USC by using multiple backs with different styles....which is the going strategy in the NFL
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Are you looking at a different year? Last season they had 2533 rushing and 3378 receiving. The 2533 isn't bad. But, I wouldn't say dominant, especially given how highly sought that RB crew was. A number of teams with lesser known RB recruits did better than USC running the ball.

utmba93 said:
Also, the whole Brown discounted UT's talent comment... yada... yada... yada... is old and stale.
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I don't think Brown was discounting UT's talent. He was just saying that the personnel is different. It's not enough to say "we're going to be like USC." He wanted to see what was going to be carried out according to the actual players on the team. Adding Oku doesn't make UT into 2005 Trojans minus Reggie Bush.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
This is a little self promoting, isn't it. Kinda like Butler. This time you mention his name on this board. Based on this how do know that Bryce Brown ever committed or ever will do the interview. It is what it is and don't make it something that it isn't just to draw a crowd to your Show.

Talk about breaking the rules of the board.
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I said I'd post the update after 10, and I did. That isn't self promoting, it's keeping my word. If you don't like the information I bring, don't read it.

I know that BB committed to the interview b/c I'm the one talking to him. Not to Butler. Not one of my "sources", but me directly. I've talked to him on multiple occasions and have no reason to doubt anything I was told.

I'm sorry you are so skeptical. But I've given you all the info I can. I'll stop.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
Are you looking at a different year? Last season they had 2533 rushing and 3378 receiving. The 2533 isn't bad. But, I wouldn't say dominant, especially given how highly sought that RB crew was. A number of teams with lesser known RB recruits did better than USC running the ball.



I think those are the right numbers I gave you . I scanned some other teams and this breakdown seems correct . Check it out .....

College Football - Statistics by Team - Rivals.com
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toxicdonut said:
I love how everytime 2 good backs are on the same team, they are the next "cadillac/brown", "bush/white"
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Hehe. It can't be bad from a fans perspective to have depth at RB. Sometimes different case from the RBs perspective.

I'm just saying that if running in a multiple-back situation was attractive to Brown in order to be like USC or save his legs for the NFL, that would probably make LSU or Miami the leader since they have the most depth there. I don't think that the prospect of a multi-system is a lure factor. Could be wrong.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
Congratulations on picking up Oku. I don't know too much about him since Oregon was never interested. But, it sounds like he's a quality back.

I don't think the current USC example bodes very well for your argument either. USC did run several backs this year and all of them were big-time recruits. However, none of them produced very good numbers individually or over-all. USC dominated through the air with a veteran QB and great depth at WR. Their running game was mediocre at best.
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I'm not to sure a first year starter is considered a veteran? He sat behind Leinart and J.D.Booty until this season, as a Ducks fan you should know that.
 
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Big Train said:
I'm not to sure a first year starter is considered a veteran? He sat behind Leinart and J.D.Booty until this season, as a Ducks fan you should know that.
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He played half of 2007 with a rating of 123.22. He was a junior in 2008 and left early for the NFL.

Not sure how much more veteran you can be than to leave early for the pros with good draft projections.
 
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i would love to still get brown. but i got a gut feeling he goes to the ducks now.i pray that im wrong. and he ends up a vol.
 
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Wow Wheaton you check this board more than me....Glad you have converted to the Volunteers. We welcome opposing fans jumping ship.:)
 
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wheaton4prez said:
Not sure why. But, ESPN has the numbers different: NCAA College Football Statistics - NCAA Football - ESPN

I would be more inclined to believe the ESPN numbers are accurate.
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I think both sets of numbers are correct ...the rivals numbers just don't reflect the bowl game . USC rushed 503 time ...passed 388 times . There passing average was over 8 yards a catch ...rushing 5 yards a carry . Both pretty dominating in either cat. They ranked #22 nationally in both run and pass ...they were the 22nd rushing team and the 22nd passing team . To me ...they look to be the picture of balance . 5 yards per carry is dominant , 8 yards a pass is dominant . There defense was dominant too .
It will be hard for UT to be that offensively dominant regardless of personel...the SEC is a much more defensive league
 
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majic73 said:
I think both sets of numbers are correct ...the rivals numbers just don't reflect the bowl game . USC rushed 503 time ...passed 388 times . There passing average was over 8 yards a catch ...rushing 5 yards a carry . Both pretty dominating in either cat. They ranked #22 nationally in both run and pass ...they were the 22nd rushing team and the 22nd passing team . To me ...they look to be the picture of balance . 5 yards per carry is dominant , 8 yards a pass is dominant . There defense was dominant too .
It will be hard for UT to be that offensively dominant regardless of personel...the SEC is a much more defensive league
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A stout O-Line can open up a lot for the rushing and passing stats.
 
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Just heard John Brice from VQ on the Sports Monster this morning and he said the Oku signing shocked everyone. He said they were betting on BB more than Oku. He said UT is in good standing with Brown and UT could very likely land both these guys.
 
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discip1e said:
Here is my guess on what happened. I am not like the other morons on here that like to play "insider". Most of those morons are just guys who call the coin toss a certain way, and everytime they call it right they never let you hear the end of it. . .all the while ignoring the times they got it wrong.

Unfortunately for them, this time they got it laughably wrong.

My hypothesis?

That smoke was INTENTIONALLY put out there to force Oku to "put up or shut up". . .and the strategy worked. We got us a prima donna.

We missed out on the other prima donna. Brown isn't coming here, he never was coming to Knoxville. Nothing he has said in ANY of his many interviews and write-ups have been particularly positive with regards to the Big Orange. His quotes have come across as polite, but that's about it. All the while he gushes over LSU and Oregon.

He has been very careful to mention that he is "still committed to UM", though. This leads me to think that he will ultimately sign with Miami, and has just wanted to enjoy some visits.

I would put his choices in this order:

Miami
Oregon
LSU
UT


I love the way you guys absolutely raved over how reliable your posters were. . .it was a fun thing to watch.

FWIW, I am GLAD he isn't coming to UT. I have no doubt that whoever gets Brown will be on probation before he leaves.

I just hope it isn't an SEC school. After the rumors of the goings on during his visit to LSU, I think the kid BELONGS with the thugs at Da U.

I'm a long time lurker here, and this is my 1st post. . .so flame away.
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I agree with your assessment of BBs choices IF you remove Miami from the list altogether. His brother plays there and has told him not to come. He will not sign with Miami.
 
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toxicdonut said:
I love how everytime 2 good backs are on the same team, they are the next "cadillac/brown", "bush/white"
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I love that we have the possibility for this to happen:rock:. I love it even more that we have the coaches that have coached the two RB tandems that you mentioned:rock:.
 
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tennisguy said:
Just heard John Brice from VQ on the Sports Monster this morning and he said the Oku signing shocked everyone. He said they were betting on BB more than Oku. He said UT is in good standing with Brown and UT could very likely land both these guys.
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I really think Oku was not talking to anyone, and just woke up yesterday and was like...well I guess I will send my letter in now! haha!

I don't think it will effect BB's decision in the least bit.
 
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If BB doesn't come to UT he will end up at K-State. Not because of the program there, but because it's close to home and Snyder promises immediate playing time.
 
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KSVOL said:
If BB doesn't come to UT he will end up at K-State. Not because of the program there, but because it's close to home and Snyder promises immediate playing time.
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Snyder can't promise that he'll live until next season.
 
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K State is a football sink hole and the only way Sproles got out of it is Road Runner type legs chugging and chugging for all they were worth. No way in hizzle does Brown go there.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
Adding Oku doesn't make UT into 2005 Trojans minus Reggie Bush.
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Correct, it took Kiffin a few years to recruit that team. One player does not make a team.

But, when Reggie signed in 2003, they weren't the 2005 Trojans then either. This is just CLK's first year at UT. We have to be patient.

In fact, use the drop down box at this link to get 2003 and sort by stars and you' see how Reggie's class looked... (2-5*, 10-4*, and several high 3*'s)

USC Commit List for 2010

Then, switch the team to UT, see how Brown's 2009 class looks now (1-5*, 9-4*, and several high 3*'s)


You might note that the later is still missing Brown's name, but with it, there are some parallels. If we add Charles, we're spot on with the USC numbers for this class. An indicator that Kiffin is 2 years ahead of schedule at UT.

While you're there check out Oregon's 2009 class, then tell me who lacks talent?

Patience... Duck. Be patient.
 
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OK now we got Oku, I want everyone's honest opinion. Before we signed Oku what did everyone think about his ability compared to Brown's. I don't think we will get Brown now, cause if Brown was coming here I don't think Oku would have. So is Oku comparable to Brown or is it not even close?
 
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