BTO’s Miami Postgame Report

#76
#76
goldvol said:
Someone's joke metric is broken.
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Oh it wasn’t a joke. Not even you think that. 😉

Your whiny (and oddly combative) “analysis” in this thread just suggests that you’re a bit out of touch with reality. I usually attribute this kind of take to an anxious fan whose feelings have overwhelmed his reason.
 
#77
#77
ThatVolGuy said:
Oh it wasn’t a joke. Not even you think that. 😉

Your whiny (and oddly combative) “analysis” in this thread just suggests that you’re a bit out of touch with reality. I usually attribute this kind of take to an anxious fan whose feelings have overwhelmed his reason.
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I don't really have to explain this joke any further, do I? Please don't make me
 
#80
#80
Chris4Vols22 said:
Good recap, agree on all points. I am usually hesitant to draw any significant conclusions at this point in the season, but it's hard to not be impressed with what we've seen so far. At the moment, I legitimately can't think of any on-court complaints I may have. Maybe I'd prefer to yank Zeigler off the court earlier when we have a sufficient lead, but that's a small point. However, that small point speaks to my one overall complaint about the team as a whole - our PG depth has been atrocious for close to two decades. This would have been a year to just take any willing PG for the sake of a body on the roster imo, especially given the new transfer environment. I think there's a real risk of our trajectory nosediving if Zeigler were to miss substantial PT. I just don't understand why we struggle so hard to land PGs, no matter who the coach and team are. That being said, if Zeigler can stay healthy, I have confidence that he can effectively shoulder the load of being the only PG - he's certainly already proved that.
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Punter, Bone, Chandler and ZZ for Barnes. Hard to find the type of PG's he likes that will allow hard coaching and be willing to come to UT until recently and ZZ has had the position on lock since Chandler. Maze and Golden under Pearl. R. Smith had potential but low basketball I.Q., character issues and was a poor shooter despite elite athletic ability. C.J. Watson one of our best ever.

We have had several very good PGs and a few elite ones. Never much depth, though. Bone/Turner being one of our deeper PG tandems. It also surprises me considering how good Barnes is at getting all positions able to pass the ball at a high level.
 
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#81
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goldvol said:
So auburn was better for more than half the game, beat a better team than Miami, and covered the spread during a random game in the middle of November. Sounds like how I described a number 1 team.
Or even possibly, auburn may not have looked like the number 1 team in that performance like how Tennessee didn't look like the #1 against Miami
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No, what I'm pointing out is that in basketball, even overmatched teams will often have good stretches in the game. Even when they are playing the #1 team. Miami has one bad loss, and a bunch of close losses to really good teams. Who knows where they'll end up. But we beat them worse than anyone else has this year, playing away from home with 7 guys playing most of the minutes.
 
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Lefteye said:
He definitely had a rough game. Don’t be sorry.. just conversing brotha . I feel like I come off like a know it all tool bag sometimes. Turns out we’re just all Boobs. lol
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Maybe that's why I like this forum.....Boobs is nice!
 
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goldvol said:
Sure, it happens. Sounds like from your description auburn dominated a majority of the game and kent had a nice short run.
That's not what happened with us and Miami.
Also kent is 104 NET with Miami 166.
Take the win and move on. No one is going to describe this as a quality win in March.
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That's doesn't tell the whole story. Miami has some nice young pieces and a very skilled veteran big. They are much more talented than Kent State. Outside of them shooting the lights out from 3 early, we imposed our will and it never felt like we were at risk of losing....even when we went cold and they got within 8 points in the second half.

Felix did not play well but that had not been the norm. Cade continues to be instant energy and is playing extremely well on both ends. Big depth is a little concerning but not many teams will be able to exploit it and we have played without fouling much this year. Our offense is lethal and so is the D, especially when we focus in and clamp down. We gon be alright, as Kendrick would say.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So who has looked like the #1 team? Who hasn’t had a close game or been outplayed at times by an inferior team, very curious what team this could be?
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why are you going off the thread topic? the thread is about the Tennessee game versus Miami
 
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THEONLYTENISEE said:
Miami is a lot better than their 3-7 record. I believe they’re just very young.
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Agree. I think the team played a little under pressure. I think the #1 ranking impacted their play and I was concerned about that. To me, the ranking is just a bullzeye at this point in the season.
 
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#94
With Vols now ranked #1 and undefeated they are going to get everyone's A+ game as they want to be the 1st team to beat them. You don't get ranking brownie points for margin of wins.

Its team sports, you just can't get everyone on the team playing their best every game. Anyone who has played team sports understands that.
 
#95
#95
90% of these posts are saying, the #1 team doesn't always look like the number 1 team in a game. Guys, I'm right there with you.

I find it funny though that I say we didn't look like the number 1 team against Miami for 75% of the game, and suddenly I'm a doomsayer.

The thread report is how we looked so good against a mediocre team. I didn't think we looked our best, and there are plenty of reasons for that. I hope Barnes also said "hey, it's not our best game" and point out areas of improvement.

It's OK. We've had a great season and amazing resume. Why does it bother everyone to have a different opinion that for a specific game we didn't look like world beaters?
 
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goldvol said:
90% of these posts are saying, the #1 team doesn't always look like the number 1 team in a game. Guys, I'm right there with you.

I find it funny though that I say we didn't look like the number 1 team against Miami for 75% of the game, and suddenly I'm a doomsayer.

The thread report is how we looked so good against a mediocre team. I didn't think we looked our best, and there are plenty of reasons for that. I hope Barnes also said "hey, it's not our best game" and point out areas of improvement.

It's OK. We've had a great season and amazing resume. Why does it bother everyone to have a different opinion that for a specific game we didn't look like world beaters?
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of course we look like the number 1 team, we are the number 1 team baby! so quit yer bicchinnnn
 
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goldvol said:
why are you going off the thread topic? the thread is about the Tennessee game versus Miami
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You opened up this box and carried the conversation for a couple pages, and now you're questioning someone's decision to question you on the premise you created?

That's bold.

Edit: And for the record, I don't necessarily disagree with your overall belief. I just don't understand the idea of presenting the argument, defending it for a day, and then admonishing someone else for perpetuating it any further.
 
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goldvol said:
90% of these posts are saying, the #1 team doesn't always look like the number 1 team in a game. Guys, I'm right there with you.

I find it funny though that I say we didn't look like the number 1 team against Miami for 75% of the game, and suddenly I'm a doomsayer.

The thread report is how we looked so good against a mediocre team. I didn't think we looked our best, and there are plenty of reasons for that. I hope Barnes also said "hey, it's not our best game" and point out areas of improvement.

It's OK. We've had a great season and amazing resume. Why does it bother everyone to have a different opinion that for a specific game we didn't look like world beaters?
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It is true that some are overly sensitive to criticism of the team at times, but the reason that you're getting the combative responses is because your arguments stink as bad as your attitude. I agree with you in that Miami is not good, but it was a dominant win despite the fact that they hung with us some in the first half. You've made a mountain out of that point based on a weak semantic argument. We may not be the absolute clear cut best team in the country, but a child can understand how we earned the de facto #1 ranking. You're on an island if you think being ranked #1 means jumping out to a 20 point lead in the first minutes of game and maintaining it throughout.

Pick better arguments and support them with facts, and make an effort to acknowledge that your opinions may not align with reality - advice for everyone, myself included.
 
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goldvol said:
90% of these posts are saying, the #1 team doesn't always look like the number 1 team in a game. Guys, I'm right there with you.

I find it funny though that I say we didn't look like the number 1 team against Miami for 75% of the game, and suddenly I'm a doomsayer.

The thread report is how we looked so good against a mediocre team. I didn't think we looked our best, and there are plenty of reasons for that. I hope Barnes also said "hey, it's not our best game" and point out areas of improvement.

It's OK. We've had a great season and amazing resume. Why does it bother everyone to have a different opinion that for a specific game we didn't look like world beaters?
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Bart Torvik has a metric for measuring exactly this. Game scores gives you a grade between 0-100 that shows how well you played, adjusted for your opponent.

Here's the distribution of all the games from this year for the current AP top 5. I put a red dot on Tennessee's performance against Miami.

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Looks like a #1 performance to me.
 
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#100
#100
Vols410 said:
Bart Torvik has a metric for measuring exactly this. Game scores gives you a grade between 0-100 that shows how well you played, adjusted for your opponent.

Here's the distribution of all the games from this year for the current AP top 5. I put a red dot on Tennessee's performance against Miami.

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Looks like a #1 performance to me.
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From the fricking top rope!!!
…rub me with those numbers
…right here….
Yeah…
…that does it baby….

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