Bush commutes sentences for 2 Border guards

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#57
OrangeEmpire said:
It justifies taking a persons life?
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Maybe it got lost in the "would you kill a street dealer" discussion but I'm still curious. In your opinion what, if any, difference is there in applying the Constitutional and general legal protections between an American citizen and a foreign national engaged in criminal activicty on US soil?
 
#58
#58
SavageOrangeJug said:
You don't have a clue. Absolutely no clue.
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Regardless of what kind of clues I have to certain trying experiences, your statement itself undermines the authority of your "morally righteous" statement concerning taking the life of a drug dealer. If you went through some awful, trying, and misguided times in your life, yet, you were able to come out of it to become an upstanding citizen, then why are you so willing to take that opportunity away from someone else?
 
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#60
OrangeEmpire said:
He is an Army Officer, Captain I believe, and I am a trooper....... I am sure we can all come up with something.........
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Well, Mr. Trooper. The next time some of your SWAT buddies are talking about their brave escapades. Let's say 25 of them armed to the teeth busting a house with 15 or so drugheads. Tell them to go try it by themselves, and then get back with me.
 
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#61
SavageOrangeJug said:
Well, Mr. Trooper. The next time some of your SWAT buddies are talking about their brave escapades. Let's say 25 of them armed to the teeth busting a house with 15 or so drugheads. Tell them to go try it by themselves, and then get back with me.
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I don't follow......???????
 
#62
#62
SavageOrangeJug said:
Well, Mr. Trooper. The next time some of your SWAT buddies are talking about their brave escapades. Let's say 25 of them armed to the teeth busting a house with 15 or so drugheads. Tell them to go try it by themselves, and then get back with me.
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Is this anything like breaching the door to a suspected enemy household? I sure as heck know that we still have to positively identify who the armed combatants are and who are not armed prior to firing. Is it tough? Yes. Is it unfair? Yes. Are there mistakes made? Yes, sometimes there are. However, most of the time there are not and abstaining from firing on non-combatants is the right thing to do.
 
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#64
therealUT said:
Is this anything like breaching the door to a suspected enemy household? I sure as heck know that we still have to positively identify who the armed combatants are and who are not armed prior to firing. Is it tough? Yes. Is it unfair? Yes. Are there mistakes made? Yes, sometimes there are. However, most of the time there are not and abstaining from firing on non-combatants is the right thing to do.
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Explain, what does this have to do with killing someone on the border or selling grass?
 
#65
#65
Let's all keep this in perspective here. The guy was caught, in the act no less, of smuggling drugs into the US.

Was it a shame he was shot, unarmed, in the back? Sure. Should the officers have used better judgement? Sure. Do they deserve 10 years? Absolutely not. Time served and never again being able to be an armed officer of any sort should be sufficient enough.
 
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#66
volinbham said:
You say that as if it is a trait unique to him as a politician.
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No, but not everyone else runs around calling themselves "The Decider." If he wanted to be accurate, he would call himself "The Guy Who Makes Decisions Only When They Are Useful In Pandering To Some Fringe Group Or Of No Danger To Me."
 
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#68
SavageOrangeJug said:
Fine! I catch him selling my kid the weed. They can prosecute me to the fullest extent of the law after I'm done with him.

Let's see if the jury will convict.
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As a criminal defense attorney, I can tell you juries hate loudmouthed vigilantes.
 
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#74
hatvol96 said:
When was the last time someone died from being shot in the ass?
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Forrest survived.
Fat Man at Bench: It was a bullet, wasn't it?
Forrest Gump: A bullet?
Fat Man at Bench: That jumped up and bit you.
Forrest Gump: Oh, yes sir. Bit me right in the buttocks. They said it was a million dollar wound, but the army must keep that money 'cause I still haven't seen a nickel of that million dollars.
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