Bush commutes sentences for 2 Border guards

[OrangeEmpire]

Forrest survived.

That also crossed my mind...

 

[SavageOrangeJug]

As a criminal defense attorney, I can tell you juries hate loudmouthed vigilantes.

I make a very good "innocent person".

 

[OrangeEmpire]

I make a very good "innocent person".

I fear for the safety of __________ and _________.

 

[SavageOrangeJug]

I fear for the safety of __________ and _________.

....but now do you understand where I'm coming from? k:

 

[OrangeEmpire]

I do........

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Yes.

Police officers should use their firearms to protect themselves and protect the public from immediate harm. An unarmed, small time crook is not posing an imminent danger to anyone.

It's real easy to Monday morning quarterback an officer that uses a weapon on a criminal when the fact is that officers put their lives on the line everytime they do a routine traffic stop...

I know there are a lot of cops that give them bad reputations (most of the time well earned), but still, making a decision in the heat of a foot race or the struggle to subdue a felon should offer these guys some leniency.

These border guys encounter not only the sterotypical farm workers or potential female housekeepers, but also common felons and drug dealers...
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[hatvol96]

I make a very good "innocent person".

Most defendants think that. The twelve people in the jury box usually disavow them of that notion when they hand in the verdict slip.

 

[allvol123]

Pretty shameful to wait until the very end to do this. If you believe something is right, then do it.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Pretty shameful to wait until the very end to do this. If you believe something is right, then do it.

Nobody is going to do that if it's politically hurtful to them or the party.
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[allvol123]

Nobody is going to do that if it's politically hurtful to them or the party.
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Lame excuse to me. If you believe you are right and do not act, does not say much for your character.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Lame excuse to me. If you believe you are right and do not act, does not say much for your character.

He didn't have a big problem doing Iraq because he believed it right.

I'm with you, but it's just not the way in modern politics. That's why all presidents make it their last act in office.
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[vol_in_ar]

Haven't read all the post, but glad he pardoned them

 

[therealUT]

It's real easy to Monday morning quarterback an officer that uses a weapon on a criminal when the fact is that officers put their lives on the line everytime they do a routine traffic stop...

I know there are a lot of cops that give them bad reputations (most of the time well earned), but still, making a decision in the heat of a foot race or the struggle to subdue a felon should offer these guys some leniency.

These border guys encounter not only the sterotypical farm workers or potential female housekeepers, but also common felons and drug dealers...
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Having had to make tougher decisions in the tougher situations, I will continue to not offer these guys any leniency.

 

[vol_in_ar]

In most ROE's, if your shot at it, you can return fire

 

[therealUT]

In most ROE's, if your shot at it, you can return fire

...and?

 

[vol_in_ar]

Didn't the border guards in question return fire?

 

[therealUT]

Didn't the border guards in question return fire?

I do not believe so.

Also, the presence of enemy fire in no way authorizes Soldiers to open fire on any personnel in the area.

 

[hmanvolfan]

It's disgusting they were in prison to begin with.

 

[gsvol]

'bout time these guys got some relief.

Apparently nobody in this thread feels that shooting a non-combatant in the back is worthy of jail time???

Interesting...

Unrealut you get weirder by the day.

Well, Mr. Trooper. The next time some of your SWAT buddies are talking about their brave escapades. Let's say 25 of them armed to the teeth busting a house with 15 or so drugheads. Tell them to go try it by themselves, and then get back with me.

I know of two guys who busted drug houses by themselves alone, they were successful and never got caught, who was going to turn them in??

Strange isn't it? Columba Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wiki sucks

No, but not everyone else runs around calling themselves "The Decider." If he wanted to be accurate, he would call himself "The Guy Who Makes Decisions Only When They Are Useful In Pandering To Some Fringe Group Or Of No Danger To Me."

Speaking of 'fringe groups who pose no danger to me,' wouldn't you fit that profile??

Where do you stand on the Eric Dewayne "E" Boyd, Letalvis "Rome" Cobbins, George "Detroit" Thomas
Lemaricus "Slim" Davidson, and Vanessa Coleman defense????

 

[gsvol]

It's disgusting they were in prison to begin with.

We are in complete agreement on that. :good!:

 

[therealUT]

I am glad to know that you feel it is perfectly acceptable to shoot people, as long as the majority of the country does not agree with that person's lifestyle choices.

 

[joevol320]

I am glad to know that you feel it is perfectly acceptable to shoot people, as long as the majority of the country does not agree with that person's lifestyle choices.

lol:lolabove:

 

[KB5252]

I am glad to know that you feel it is perfectly acceptable to shoot people, as long as the majority of the country does not agree with that person's lifestyle choices.

What were the circumstances of this shooting? Was this man armed, was he combative with the arresting officers?

 

[hndog609]

What were the circumstances of this shooting? Was this man armed, was he combative with the arresting officers?

No/Yes

 

[KB5252]

No/Yes

As I understand it he was a drug smuggler. Had this been the average immigrant just trying to make a better life here it would be a different story. Turns out he was a threat to America and was shot because he fought back while being arrested.