Butch confirms Dobbs was only QB available

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Dobbs will be good one for us. I fully expect him to lead us to victories in our next two regular season games, our bowl game, and have a strong spring as well.
 
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PeytonManningVFL said:
Led the comeback victory against SC and darn near beat GA. Dobbs has shown he can make plays with his feet but that is all. Of course he could have a break out game against Vandy and change my mind but right now Justin is still our guy...end of story.
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Would Worley replace Dobbs if Worley was healthy by the Vandy game or the Kentucky game? I think the answer is yes. We have looked terrible the last 3 games. Who was the QB? Dobbs. I'm not saying I don't like what I see from Dobbs, but we have 4 wins and Dobbs didn't play in any of them. I truly believe that if Ferguson was healthy his RS would have used first. Dobbs needs to be convincing in the next 2 games or the QB position will be opened back up for the Spring practice. If we make it to a bowl game don't be surprised if Worley doesn't end up starting.
 
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Daloth said:
That junior led a last second scoring drive (while injured apparently) to beat a top 10 team. Dobbs hasn't done anything remotely close. He's not bad, and will most likely be very good some day, but let's not pretend he's as good as or better than Worley, or he would've been playing already as we've seen with the Peterman fiasco
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You really think Worley would have done any better against Bama, Mizzou, and the Barn? Think again. Worley played pretty well against SC and UGA for a half, but I highly doubt he would have had any more success than JD against the stretch he's had to play.
 
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I am in no way bashing Dobbs, but I think I have an idea of what's going on with some people. They wanted Dobbs in there since the Spring. They wanted him starting so badly that they refuse to be critical of him. They are so determined to be right in their opinion that they have convinced themselves that he has been excellent. He has been okay imo and performed as well as to be expected all things considered. He will improve with experience, but to call him excellent right now is delusional.
 
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beneVOLence said:
Would Worley replace Dobbs if Worley was healthy by the Vandy game or the Kentucky game? I think the answer is yes. We have looked terrible the last 3 games. Who was the QB? Dobbs. I'm not saying I don't like what I see from Dobbs, but we have 4 wins and Dobbs didn't play in any of them. I truly believe that if Ferguson was healthy his RS would have used first. Dobbs needs to be convincing in the next 2 games or the QB position will be opened back up for the Spring practice. If we make it to a bowl game don't be surprised if Worley doesn't end up starting.
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You may be right, but Dobbs has played well under the circumstances against those opponents as a freshman. I am sure the competition will open again in the spring.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
You really think Worley would have done any better against Bama, Mizzou, and the Barn? Think again. Worley played pretty well against SC and UGA for a half, but I highly doubt he would have had any more success than JD against the stretch he's had to play.
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Don't you think it is interesting that we were getting better and competing against good teams like UGA & USCe before Worley went down and since then we have been blown out ever since. Maybe Worley wouldn't have done any better, we will never know, but to look at the results before the injury at the results after the injury and not give Worley some credit is crazy. I hope Dobbs wins out and convinces me that he is the QB that we can build around.
 
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NashVOL93 said:
You really think Worley would have done any better against Bama, Mizzou, and the Barn? Think again. Worley played pretty well against SC and UGA for a half, but I highly doubt he would have had any more success than JD against the stretch he's had to play.
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Why so quick to throw JW to the curb. The guy has paid his dues. Dobbs has shown me very little. That could change but right now Worley is the guy. He has proven he could win games...has Dobbs won...and please don't mention Alabama...Peyton couldn't have beaten them with what we had on the field.
 
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The QB decision that Jones and Co. make next year will be HUGE. What to do about Ferguson? If I were Jones and thought Ferguson had potential to be the starter, then I would play him some the rest of this year--maybe alternate him with Dobbs in games. It is the best way to compare the two--in real games, against the same opponent. Will that hurt our chances of winning our remaining games? If frankly don't care if I thought it would help the coaches get clarification on who our QB should be next year.

If you don't play Ferguson now and see what he's got, then it will be hard for him to get on the field next year because Worley and Dobbs both will have lots more experience. If Jones doesn't think Ferguson can be a starter, or is as good or better than Dobbs, then obviously keep playing Dobbs, see how he does. If he progresses, he might be the guy next year. If he doesn't improve, then we could be back to square one next spring.
 
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beneVOLence said:
Don't you think it is interesting that we were getting better and competing against good teams like UGA & USCe before Worley went down and since then we have been blown out ever since. Maybe Worley wouldn't have done any better, we will never know, but to look at the results before the injury at the results after the injury and not give Worley some credit is crazy. I hope Dobbs wins out and convinces me that he is the QB that we can build around.
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We were outclassed 100% in those games. And our defense did what? I dont care who plays long as we win, but our offense would have looked just as pathetic against those teams with Worley in there.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
I am in no way bashing Dobbs, but I think I have an idea of what's going on with some people. They wanted Dobbs in there since the Spring. They wanted him starting so badly that they refuse to be critical of him. They are so determined to be right in their opinion that they have convinced themselves that he has been excellent. He has been okay imo and performed as well as to be expected all things considered. He will improve with experience, but to call him excellent right now is delusional.
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This.

I think he is showing some increased talent at taking off and running with the ball, but his connection with the receivers is still a bit off. It's not that he's a bad QB by any means, but it does take time and practice to get everything down pat with your receivers. They know where the ball will be when the QB throws it, the QB knows where they will be when it's tossed. And nothing that complicated is going to be set in stone in the first three games after getting tossed into the fire.

But under the circumstances, the kid has done a pretty good job so far.
 
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So many of our fans make excuses for everything..

Dobbs has not been close to excellent. Excellent means that he kept us in games. He has not done that. He hasn't lead touchdown drives.

I don't think anyone is saying he sucks, but stop making excuses for his lack of success.

He has faced great teams. what happened was mostly expected.
 
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I don't know if Riley is better than Dobbs and frankly no one does until we see them both with some playing time under their belts. I do believe that if Riley is not our starter soon(ish) then he will be playing elsewhere. I don't think this kid has any intention of holding the clipboard for any program.
 
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I know that we have 2 regular season games left (and hopefully a bowl :crossfingers:), but I think spring practice is going to be very interesting. All the early enrollees and the QB competition...who needs baseball.
 
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Grand Vol said:
This.

I think he is showing some increased talent at taking off and running with the ball, but his connection with the receivers is still a bit off. It's not that he's a bad QB by any means, but it does take time and practice to get everything down pat with your receivers. They know where the ball will be when the QB throws it, the QB knows where they will be when it's tossed. And nothing that complicated is going to be set in stone in the first three games after getting tossed into the fire.

But under the circumstances, the kid has done a pretty good job so far.
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I agree, especially considering our offensive penalties. Against those teams 1st and 15 is tough.
 
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supersmo18 said:
And I think, all things considered, Dobbs has done an excellent job thus far, having to play against the competition he has so far. I'm excited for this young man's future.
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Not negavol here but before we can label "excellent" on him he will have to learn his progressions...very few freshmen could step on the field and do that so its not unusual. Many times he has locked in on a receiver and missed the wide open option....but he will learn that as we go...better than expected???...maybe a bit but a long long way to go......
 
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Dobbs has shown promise. He has not performed "excellent" nor has he failed.

He isn't polished. He isn't an accomplished game manager. He does throw a nice ball. He does show decisiveness. He runs well. The raw tools are there. He needs time and coaching... sort of like what Jones said when everyone was clamoring for Worley to be replaced before the injury. Jones said "they're not ready". Everyone (including me) tried to figure out what he meant. It is apparent now... that he meant they weren't ready.
 
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armchair said:
The QB decision that Jones and Co. make next year will be HUGE. What to do about Ferguson? If I were Jones and thought Ferguson had potential to be the starter, then I would play him some the rest of this year--maybe alternate him with Dobbs in games. It is the best way to compare the two--in real games, against the same opponent. Will that hurt our chances of winning our remaining games? If frankly don't care if I thought it would help the coaches get clarification on who our QB should be next year.

If you don't play Ferguson now and see what he's got, then it will be hard for him to get on the field next year because Worley and Dobbs both will have lots more experience. If Jones doesn't think Ferguson can be a starter, or is as good or better than Dobbs, then obviously keep playing Dobbs, see how he does. If he progresses, he might be the guy next year. If he doesn't improve, then we could be back to square one next spring.
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I would play the QB that gave us the best chance to get to a bowl game unless we were to lose to Vandy.....


It is extremely important to get to a bowl game this year if at all possible...:hi:
 
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beneVOLence said:
Would Worley replace Dobbs if Worley was healthy by the Vandy game or the Kentucky game? I think the answer is yes. We have looked terrible the last 3 games. Who was the QB? Dobbs. I'm not saying I don't like what I see from Dobbs, but we have 4 wins and Dobbs didn't play in any of them. I truly believe that if Ferguson was healthy his RS would have used first. Dobbs needs to be convincing in the next 2 games or the QB position will be opened back up for the Spring practice. If we make it to a bowl game don't be surprised if Worley doesn't end up starting.
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How do you blame a tired slow defence on Dobbs?

I think Dobbs is a good qb on his way to becomeing a very good qb.

Dobbs has thrown touchdowns that were droped.

Has Dobbs made mistakes, certainly he has even Manning does.

Tennessee is on the way back but lets bash the hell outa them till they do here on VN.

Lets down our players, call for new coaches till there #1

Thats what fans are for right?

Geez people enough with the crap already :banghead2:

maybe Freak should make an [anti VolNation] and move a few of you over and off this board.
 
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joevol33 said:
Kinda does make you wonder what would've happened if he had both options.
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Had both been healthy, Ferguson had been getting # 2 reps since Peterman's injury. One would have to assume he would have gotten shot instead of Dobbs. Since Riley had no previous experience either, it is difficult to believe he would have had much better luck than Joshua did. Maybe getting # 2 reps longer than Joshua he would have done better but that is impossible to know.

All we have to go on is what we see. Until we see Riley its speculation as to how he would perform on Saturday's. Joshua has done well for the minimal practice reps he has had. He will continue to improve the more reps he gets.

I will be surprised if both Dobbs and Ferguson are still here in January 2015. Next season will determine which one is likely to move on.
 
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