Butch confirms Dobbs was only QB available

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All I have to say is compare Worley's first action as a freshman against MTSU in 2011, to Dobbs' first action this year against the likes of Bama, Mizzou, and Auburn and see if that doesn't make you feel a little more confident about the future with Dobbs at QB. Both were 3rd stringers, that were planning on being redshirted and not seeing the field during their freshman year. Dobbs has played well above expectations considering the circumstances, and I think he gets his first win as Tennessee's starting QB next Saturday.
 
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beneVOLence said:
Don't you think it is interesting that we were getting better and competing against good teams like UGA & USCe before Worley went down and since then we have been blown out ever since. Maybe Worley wouldn't have done any better, we will never know, but to look at the results before the injury at the results after the injury and not give Worley some credit is crazy. I hope Dobbs wins out and convinces me that he is the QB that we can build around.
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LOLOLOL you mean like when our defense gave up 131 points in three games?

For the record, I was Team Worley until he got hurt. But you CAN'T put three blowout losses on the QB alone. The D has been absolutely abysmal.
 
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armchair said:
The QB decision that Jones and Co. make next year will be HUGE. What to do about Ferguson? If I were Jones and thought Ferguson had potential to be the starter, then I would play him some the rest of this year--maybe alternate him with Dobbs in games. It is the best way to compare the two--in real games, against the same opponent. Will that hurt our chances of winning our remaining games? If frankly don't care if I thought it would help the coaches get clarification on who our QB should be next year.

If you don't play Ferguson now and see what he's got, then it will be hard for him to get on the field next year because Worley and Dobbs both will have lots more experience. If Jones doesn't think Ferguson can be a starter, or is as good or better than Dobbs, then obviously keep playing Dobbs, see how he does. If he progresses, he might be the guy next year. If he doesn't improve, then we could be back to square one next spring.
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the only bad thing wrong with that will be who might leave ? there could be a shortage of QBs if a couple of them decide to leave,because of a lack of playing time or they think the future is wrote in stone

like this from the article
" undisclosed lower leg injury"
for Ferguson,why would such a injury be undisclosed ? is it coach speak to say we are saving a red shirt ?
 
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Thanks for the confirming info @op , I really thought this was common knowledge anyway though . The QB battle next year is going to be wide open . I want to see what Ferguson has also .
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Nope. It's the law of ourrreceivershavedroppedtdpassesfromDobbs.
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Are they TD passes if they're not caught?...from the makers of IF A TREE FALLS IN THE FOREST, AND NO ONE HEARS IT...DID IT MAKE A SOUND?
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#16s Dad said:
How do you blame a tired slow defence on Dobbs?

I think Dobbs is a good qb on his way to becomeing a very good qb.

Dobbs has thrown touchdowns that were droped.

Has Dobbs made mistakes, certainly he has even Manning does.

Tennessee is on the way back but lets bash the hell outa them till they do here on VN.

Lets down our players, call for new coaches till there #1

Thats what fans are for right?

Geez people enough with the crap already :banghead2:

maybe Freak should make an [anti VolNation] and move a few of you over and off this board.
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This isn't against you specifically, but I wonder how many people who say this right now for Dobbs said the same thing for Bray last year?
 
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LWSVOL said:
Had both been healthy, Ferguson had been getting # 2 reps since Peterman's injury. One would have to assume he would have gotten shot instead of Dobbs. Since Riley had no previous experience either, it is difficult to believe he would have had much better luck than Joshua did. Maybe getting # 2 reps longer than Joshua he would have done better but that is impossible to know.

All we have to go on is what we see. Until we see Riley its speculation as to how he would perform on Saturday's. Joshua has done well for the minimal practice reps he has had. He will continue to improve the more reps he gets.

I will be surprised if both Dobbs and Ferguson are still here in January 2015. Next season will determine which one is likely to move on.
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do you think Petermen or Worley will leave before next year ?
 
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Hey Dobbs, I know three years ago, two years after middle school, you were playing QB as a sophomore in highschool; but why aren't you winning in the SEC? I mean, you are starting your first games against Alabama, the number one team in the country, and two other top ten teams?

I mean, come on!

Obvious sarcasm intended....
 
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sjt18 said:
Dobbs has shown promise. He has not performed "excellent" nor has he failed.

He isn't polished. He isn't an accomplished game manager. He does throw a nice ball. He does show decisiveness. He runs well. The raw tools are there. He needs time and coaching... sort of like what Jones said when everyone was clamoring for Worley to be replaced before the injury. Jones said "they're not ready". Everyone (including me) tried to figure out what he meant. It is apparent now... that he meant they weren't ready.
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I see
 
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governmentmule said:
do you think Petermen or Worley will leave before next year ?
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Peterman yes.

Worley, dunno... see how spring goes. Would not be shocked to see him win job back.. if it became obvious he was not going to start he might head off elsewhere..
 
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volroadwarrior said:
The only TDs dropped that I recall are Josh Smith from Dobbs and Pig from Worley. Where are all of the multiple TD passes that were dropped? Please enlighten us and restore your e-cred.
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Indeed, the one to Smith was handed to him on a platter on a deep cross where he probably walks into the zone - against Bama, no less.

Dobbs placed a perfect over the shoulder 40 yd bomb to North, who behaved uncharacteristically humanly on the play, seeming to lose the ball in the lights, get turned around, and flail his arms blindly into the air in vain. Ball flew between his outstretched hands -not technically a drop, but a blown opportunity (by a beast of a WR) which should have resulted in a TD based on the quality of Dobbs' effort.

Don't remember game for sure, maybe Mizzou, but Smith (again) dropped a quick screen at the 10 or 12 when he had about 3 blockers in front and it appeared Baj had caught them in the right D to exploit for an easy TD. Not as clear cut as the first 2, but another example of the drops which abound among our corps.

AV
 
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Voluble2 said:
If a qb throws a touchdown in the forest and there is no one there to catch it....
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Naw, see, you're asking the wrong question…

If a man speaks in the forest, but there's no woman around to hear him……




is he still wrong?

My wife would say yes.

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NashVOL93 said:
The goon squad claiming that Dobbs hasn't done well this season are out of their minds. Is there any other true freshman QB in the entire country whose first three games as a college football player have been against three consecutive Top 10 opponents, starting with the No. 1 and very likely National Championship-bound team?

Now, that being said, would I like to see some more TD passes from him? Yeah, sure. But to say Josh hasn't arguably done at least as well or better than the injured junior he replaced is lunacy.
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Then why is everyone flaming Peterman then?
 
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NashVOL93 said:
The goon squad claiming that Dobbs hasn't done well this season are out of their minds. Is there any other true freshman QB in the entire country whose first three games as a college football player have been against three consecutive Top 10 opponents, starting with the No. 1 and very likely National Championship-bound team?

Now, that being said, would I like to see some more TD passes from him? Yeah, sure. But to say Josh hasn't arguably done at least as well or better than the injured junior he replaced is lunacy.
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The Junior he replaced, starting full time for the first time, beat a Top 12 team, had a Top 5 team at the time beat before the letdown at the end by the defense...he beat the other teams he was supposed to and lost to the teams we thought we would...The offense ran smooth under him, once the WR learned to play the game and run the right routes and both together gained confidence with each other...

Dobbs has loads of potential and is a better athlete than Worley...but your kidding yourself if you think he is better for this team at this point than Worley would be...

also funny how Dobbs has Thrown TD's but his receivers dropped them and when Worley did the same thing...it was Worley's fault...

Worley did have bad passes and bad decisions...but the offense was running better under him and they had confidence with him back there...Dobbs is just starting to gain their confidence...
 
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Aerie Vol said:
Indeed, the one to Smith was handed to him on a platter on a deep cross where he probably walks into the zone - against Bama, no less.

Dobbs placed a perfect over the shoulder 40 yd bomb to North, who behaved uncharacteristically humanly on the play, seeming to lose the ball in the lights, get turned around, and flail his arms blindly into the air in vain. Ball flew between his outstretched hands -not technically a drop, but a blown opportunity (by a beast of a WR) which should have resulted in a TD based on the quality of Dobbs' effort.

Don't remember game for sure, maybe Mizzou, but Smith (again) dropped a quick screen at the 10 or 12 when he had about 3 blockers in front and it appeared Baj had caught them in the right D to exploit for an easy TD. Not as clear cut as the first 2, but another example of the drops which abound among our corps.

AV
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while that is true...Dobbs has also thrown the ball over a receivers head out of bounds more times than I would like to recall and has thrown some into the ground also...
 
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Clemvolsince54 said:
for Bama and Mizzou

Butch Jones: Freshman Joshua Dobbs was only QB available for Bama, Mizzou games » GoVolsXtra
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I'm sure this has been said before - but wasn't this common knowledge?

R. Ferguson was in a boot but was reportedly 3rd string before Stephenson's injury - meaning Dobbs was 4th.

I for one am excited to see Dobbs get all these reps. He has shown good promise for a starting Freshman. He plays a little erratic and our receivers struggle with consistency, so that amplifies the passing woes. All things considered, Dobbs is performing about as expected, but his consistency with receivers and the ball security issues will be his biggest hurdles. The option-run attacks also haven't worked very well, but Dobbs' does seem to have a better knack than Worley for gaining positive yards with his feet after a blown up play.

If we make it to a bowl game, I think there will be competition for the QB spot. Worley has proven himself secure with the ball, which some coaches give a lot of merit to so I would not discount Worley being done for the season. We will see!

BTW anyone think Stephenson might not see the field again ever at UT?I have a hard time believing he sees the field again this year or ever in his career at UT, especially if Vandy and Kentucky are close games.
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
I'm sure this has been said before - but wasn't this common knowledge?

R. Ferguson was in a boot but was reportedly 3rd string before Stephenson's injury - meaning Dobbs was 4th.

I for one am excited to see Dobbs get all these reps. He has shown good promise for a starting Freshman. He plays a little erratic and our receivers struggle with consistency, so that amplifies the passing woes. All things considered, Dobbs is performing about as expected, but his consistency with receivers and the ball security issues will be his biggest hurdles. The option-run attacks also haven't worked very well, but Dobbs' does seem to have a better knack than Worley for gaining positive yards with his feet after a blown up play.

If we make it to a bowl game, I think there will be competition for the QB spot. Worley has proven himself secure with the ball, which some coaches give a lot of merit to so I would not discount Worley being done for the season. We will see!

BTW anyone think Stephenson might not see the field again ever at UT?I have a hard time believing he sees the field again this year or ever in his career at UT, especially if Vandy and Kentucky are close games.
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I have a hard time remembering who STEPHENSON is :confused:...do you mean Peterman? :blink:
 
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LWSVOL said:
Peterman yes.

Worley, dunno... see how spring goes. Would not be shocked to see him win job back.. if it became obvious he was not going to start he might head off elsewhere..
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do you then think there is a chance that UT could be down to 2 QBs then ? i know it is a stretch but it could happen and thanks for the input
 
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