Butch Jones embraces team chaplain Tim Miller

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OrangeDog said:
I skipped through 20 pages, because I am not brave enough or STRONG enough................... I'll defer to those of you have more time and faith than I to tell me whether or not to go back through the previous 20+ pages

any advice?
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Do it. Dumpster fire to okay to solid thread. It is about to go south.
 
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MustafaRasta said:
Hey alright. Fair enough answer. I was genuinely curious because like I said it was a question I came across myself. I'm more interested in the answer I guess.

I wasn't trying to single you out and put you on the stand and cross examine you, more in the fact that your post was the latest to bring up that question. :hi:
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I didn't intend for my post to sound like a backlash at you either. Sorry if it did.

I'm the last person to answer the question for you. I've thought to myself before that it would be so much easier to not believe in anything. But I can't. Somewhere inside of me there is faith. To be honest though. That is even scarier to me. I try to be a good person on a daily bases, but I know the things I've done. I was a Marine...in time of war...I know the things I've done.

I will say. I don't believe in religion. Religion was created by man and it does exactly what it was intended to do IMO. Control masses. I do believe in a higher being. To me that is also scary. I've been on battlefields. Either God was there or he wasn't. Neither of those answers makes me feel any better. No God and this is just the doings of man is scary. God is here, watching this, and letting it happen...that is where I get really scared.

I'll stop before someone decides they need to call the psyche ward on me.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
It was a solid thread toward this post, but someone brought up Trump, so it is about to go down the tubes.
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To be fair, I blasted both parties. Thats the advantage of being apolitical...I dont give 2 sh-ts about either party. Neither party gives 2 sh-ts about the average American. We are just pawns in their attempts to gain money and power. Thats why a lot of things are broken in this country and why we are in debt to our eyeballs.
 
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BaldBiker said:
I didn't intend for my post to sound like a backlash at you either. Sorry if it did.

I'm the last person to answer the question for you. I've thought to myself before that it would be so much easier to not believe in anything. But I can't. Somewhere inside of me there is faith. To be honest though. That is even scarier to me. I try to be a good person on a daily bases, but I know the things I've done. I was a Marine...in time of war...I know the things I've done.

I will say. I don't believe in religion. Religion was created by man and it does exactly what it was intended to do IMO. Control masses. I do believe in a higher being. To me that is also scary. I've been on battlefields. Either God was there or he wasn't. Neither of those answers makes me feel any better. No God and this is just the doings of man is scary. God is here, watching this, and letting it happen...that is where I get really scared.

I'll stop before someone decides they need to call the psyche ward on me.
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It's all good. Those existential questions you posted above are similar to meditations I've done. Some people are satisfied with the answer that god allows bad to happen to test his people and whatever similar side points follow up to reinforce that. My problem(if you consider it a problem) was that I was never satisfied with those answers and questions led to more questions that I never found satisfying answers too. In fact the lack of answers or even the consideration of forming the original questions may have been what turned me off the most.

Like you though, I do not rule out the possibility of a "higher power" but I do rule out the usual follow up that includes he watches over us all and follows football games and whatever else may come after that.
 
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bray2milton said:
I have no need to read it. I was only pointing out that you are a believer. How am I intolerant when I have continually said believe what you want and I will believe what I want? And yes I do need a safe space. You guys are terrifying to my rational mind. Think outside the box my friend and it could lead you to the realization that what Dad and Mom taught you might not be reality.
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I am far more educated than just mom and dad and have had my own experiences with spiritual things. I have a rational mind as well regardless if I disagree with you or not. You have made many references just like your last sentence in this post which is passive aggressive behavior and a shot at me as a believer that I could not be rational and only believe what I do because of parents. Some atheist or such because of their parents and what they instilled. I studied for myself and had my own questions but certain things I will not go into here happened where God revealed himself to me on a few occasions. Choose what you want to choose but do not ridicule others who don't share it. Anyone reading your posts in this thread see where you have done that. Have others did it as well? Sure but you my friend, are not innocent nor the victim.
 
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JacketVol said:
I am far more educated than just mom and dad and have had my own experiences with spiritual things. I have a rational mind as well regardless if I disagree with you or not. You have made many references just like your last sentence in this post which is passive aggressive behavior and a shot at me as a believer that I could not be rational and only believe what I do because of parents. Some atheist or such because of their parents and what they instilled. I studied for myself and had my own questions but certain things I will not go into here happened where God revealed himself to me on a few occasions. Choose what you want to choose but do not ridicule others who don't share it. Anyone reading your posts in this thread see where you have done that. Have others did it as well? Sure but you my friend, are not innocent nor the victim.
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You believe what you want to believe. I will believe what I want to believe. Never felt like a victim. Glad God reveals himself to you. Hope he reveals himself to you many more times.... As I said at the very beginning and I quote "whatever floats your boat".
 
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bray2milton said:
But what about dinosaurs? And on that note you ladies and gents have a good night.
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Easily explained but I don't believe in the 6k year thing. God created the heavens and the earth and it was with form and void. Why create something like that? Between those two verses is a gap. It is called the gap theory. I think it is very credible and you can go to Isaiah about Satan not Saban going up (from where) to the heavens to take his place. This is what I think was happening between initial creation of the earth and the revolt of Satan and him and those angels being cast down and the earth destroyed. Then the rest of the Genesis account of creation happens. I know you don't believe it but I think verse one and two had millions of years between them.
 
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bray2milton said:
You believe what you want to believe. I will believe what I want to believe. Never felt like a victim. Glad God reveals himself to you. Hope he reveals himself to you many more times.... As I said at the very beginning and I quote "whatever floats your boat".
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Totally agreed and like this. Whatever floats your boat but regardless of beliefs or lack of, we must be good to others and treat them well. Hardest thing to do as humans regardless of what moral code you follow.
 
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JacketVol said:
Easily explained but I don't believe in the 6k year thing. God created the heavens and the earth and it was with form and void. Why create something like that? Between those two verses is a gap. It is called the gap theory. I think it is very credible and you can go to Isaiah about Satan not Saban going up (from where) to the heavens to take his place. This is what I think was happening between initial creation of the earth and the revolt of Satan and him and those angels being cast down and the earth destroyed. Then the rest of the Genesis account of creation happens. I know you don't believe it but I think verse one and two had millions of years between them.
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Who will you be pulling for when the Vols take on the Jackets this upcoming season?
 
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