Butch Jones embraces team chaplain Tim Miller

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bray2milton said:
And by thought provoking you mean being neutral? Not speaking your belief? Debate and disagreements are the cornerstone of all good message boards.
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Well, while I understand the importance of being the cornerstone of a good message board, I must admit, that is much less of a concern of mine as those who actually make me think.

I believe the message board will survive, with or without ranting and raving in one thread.
 
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For the life of I can't believe Freak let this thread become what it is. Not that I'm complaining, it's good debate material.
 
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kentucky sucks said:
I'm a Mormon and yes we follow it.
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This is what I was alluding to in a previous post. Some follow the "Scripture as word, period" line, including some of the more unsavory elements in the Old Testament. As some folks have posted these verses, even though they do not represent Catholic teaching, or most Protestant teaching for that matter. But the fact that there are extremists that remain, preaching about all these parts of the Old Testament that is supposed to be more of a historical record as opposed to theology, completely freaks people out. Then the reaction occurs towards all Christians that they are bigots, etc.
 
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orangeluvr said:
One could argue Jesus was a"liberal" in his time . He was persecuted for his teachings against the Jewish hierarchy (thePharisees). Baylor is a private Baptist university, guess winning was more important. This country needs to reset it's moral compass.
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Jesus was a revolutionary...(the Pharisees) were there at the time...denoting all mankind...the rest oil and water...:)

GO VOLS!
 
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zeppelin128 said:
This is what I was alluding to in a previous post. Some follow the "Scripture as word, period" line, including some of the more unsavory elements in the Old Testament. As some folks have posted these verses, even though they do not represent Catholic teaching, or most Protestant teaching for that matter. But the fact that there are extremists that remain, preaching about all these parts of the Old Testament that is supposed to be more of a historical record as opposed to theology, completely freaks people out. Then the reaction occurs towards all Christians that they are bigots, etc.
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this exists in all religions. From crusaders to jihadists....the lunatic fringe ruins it for the rest.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
This is what I was alluding to in a previous post. Some follow the "Scripture as word, period" line, including some of the more unsavory elements in the Old Testament. As some folks have posted these verses, even though they do not represent Catholic teaching, or most Protestant teaching for that matter. But the fact that there are extremists that remain, preaching about all these parts of the Old Testament that is supposed to be more of a historical record as opposed to theology, completely freaks people out. Then the reaction occurs towards all Christians that they are bigots, etc.
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I can see that. The way I look at it is God gave me a brain to think and eyes to read and ears to hear. I have all of the tools to interpret the gospel the way I see fit. I can join any denomination I want. I have that freedom. This is where I finally feel peace in my life and joy. This is my attempt to live after death. Other folks are free to choose any way they want and I'll never poke fun or make light of their attempt to get to heaven.

The beautiful thing about religion is that we're all wanting the same result but we all have different ways to get it. Some people act like morons if you don't think like they do but that's really no different than vol fans hating bama fans. We all like football but want everyone to pull for our team because we think it's the best.
 
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orangeluvr said:
One could argue Jesus was a"liberal" in his time . He was persecuted for his teachings against the Jewish hierarchy (thePharisees). Baylor is a private Baptist university, guess winning was more important. This country needs to reset it's moral compass.
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Lol...Baylor like most once affiliated universities bear it in name only...Baylor admin would NEVER ID as a baptist university....
 
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It is truly educational and kinda humorous to come to a sports board and read people's "opinions" on "religion"....
 
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bray2milton said:
Why would I study a book that was written by a man on how to live my life unless it was Tony Robbins or Barack Obama? Seriously? You guys need to chill. Believe what YOU want. I will do the same. It is ridiculous and only proving what I believe to be the case in some of these holier than thou comments.
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Obama and Tony Robbins have something in common with Joel Osteen...everytime they speak, you better hold your wallet tight.
 
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kentucky sucks said:
I can see that. The way I look at it is God gave me a brain to think and eyes to read and ears to hear. I have all of the tools to interpret the gospel the way I see fit. I can join any denomination I want. I have that freedom. This is where I finally feel peace in my life and joy. This is my attempt to live after death. Other folks are free to choose any way they want and I'll never poke fun or make light of their attempt to get to heaven.

The beautiful thing about religion is that we're all wanting the same result but we all have different ways to get it. Some people act like morons if you don't think like they do but that's really no different than vol fans hating bama fans. We all like football but want everyone to pull for our team because we think it's the best.
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Spot on.
 
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BaldBiker said:
I've got no idea. The fact that I said it is a pretty powerful question....not THE most powerful question, does in and of itself make your post a moot point. The word THE in this case changes the meaning of the statement quite a bit.

Now. The statement as I posted it is in fact a powerful question. Did I say anything beyond that? Did I say that I agreed with said statement? No.

What I said was it is a pretty powerful question. Which it is. Everyone is free to come up with their own reason why it's powerful. I just said it stuck with me through the years. Personally, I agree with you. It's a question based in fear. It is still a question that most if not all people have asked themselves, regardless of religion (atheist included) at some point in their life, in some form or another.

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Hey alright. Fair enough answer. I was genuinely curious because like I said it was a question I came across myself. I'm more interested in the answer I guess.

I wasn't trying to single you out and put you on the stand and cross examine you, more in the fact that your post was the latest to bring up that question. :hi:
 
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armchair said:
There is no "god," people. You want to believe because you fear death--hence all the nonsense about "heaven." Is there a sillier, more 1st-grade fairy-tale concept in the world? (Yea, maybe--"hell" and..."the devil!" Agggghhh!!) Most of us grew up with this nonsense drilled into our heads. It's comforting irrationality. Some decide that looking at the world rationally is more important and grow out of it. Many cling to it, as it is frightening to think that death ... is...it. Nothing wrong with believing...except when you want to make public policy out of bible stories and, say, teach creationism in school. Filling the heads of young people with anti-scientific craziness. Christians are so scared of secularism that they embrace the venal GOP and voted for Trump--who might be the most immoral man in America save for violent criminals. Oh, the compromises we make....I laugh at christian radio commentators who would regular criticize the ACA--a program that has given 20 million low-income people the opportunity to have health insurance. Horrors! It's not good to mix religion with politics, you look hypocritical. Let's DO move this to another board!
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I do find it interesting that the Religious Right embraced someone as vile, racist, and disgusting as Trump. I know Hillary was corrupt/awful but DJT's actions go against Christian principles.

Regarding ACA, its an unwieldly, bureaucratic steaming pile. The intent was noble but there is nothing our government can do efficiently. A country 20 trillion in the hole cant maintain an unmanageable albatross that ACA is. Theres some reasonable middle ground but the dipsh-ts in DC cant figure it out.
 
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All the angry people have moved on apparently. Or are you still lurking, waiting to strike?

Edit: Now the thread goes down hill.
 
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Originally Posted by armchair
Your comment is irrational and, hence, funny. There is a purple elephant standing on my back patio---nobody can see it, not even me, but I know it's there and I also know that the purple elephant cares about me. How do I know these things against all evidence? Because I want to know them, however silly they may seem.

Sounds like a color blind bama homer to me!
 
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I skipped through 20 pages, because I am not brave enough or STRONG enough................... I'll defer to those of you have more time and faith than I to tell me whether or not to go back through the previous 20+ pages

any advice?
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