Butch Jones quotes after the game:

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sjt18 said:
Absolutely positively not. This was a VERY beatable UF team that came into the game looking for offensive playmakers. I expected a competent gameplan and for it to be executed at LEAST to the level we saw under Chaney and Wilcox.

And then.... when UF's DB's were dropping like flies, the lost their QB, were largely ineffective at RB.... I expected adjustments to drive a stake right through their wicked hearts.



Yeah... that's nice. Jones would have lost to all the teams he was "supposed' to lose to and beaten only the teams he was "supposed" to.... personally... I have had quite enough of coaches who lose to all the good teams and never seem to outcoach anyone.

I am ready for a coach who really is a winner. I hope that's Jones... but UF handed him a golden opportunity today... and he whiffed.
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With the new coach, new system, inexperienced QB, new receivers, and no depth, no one should expect us to beat any of the ranked teams on the schedule, and Auburn, Mizzou are toss-ups. The only team I think we may upset is SC, but even that is a very long shot. And next year will not be much better, as we will be very young, new O-Line, mostly new D-line and some other losses, playing many new starters. If people can be a little patient, we will be better in 15, and challenge for SEC East in 16. Got to give him time to get the system going. Even Saban finished his first regular season at Bama 6-6, and he had more depth, so give it time.
 
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sjt18 said:
Speed wasn't the problem most of the time today. Disciplined players keep contain and keep their outside leverage. Repeatedly, UT's players got sucked up inside leaving no one to keep contain. That has little to do with speed.
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Speed was a problem IMO, because UF RBs were running to the outside and turning up field for big yardage, and we couldn't catch 'em. True if they were defended on the outsides as you suggest, then they'd have no choice but to turn inward. Bert Bertelkamp mentioned this today saying the UT defenders were getting caught chicken fighting on the inside while the Gator RB's would turn up their jets up the sidelines. But on slant routes UF WRs get open and we don't have the Wheaties to catch 'em. Sort of like Oregon a couple times.
 
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I don't believe that anyone has referenced Butch's concluding remarks, which could be construed as a thinly veiled rebuke of the "Legions of the Miserable": "We have a lot of positive things going forward that, maybe, to the outside world they don't see but everyone within the coaching profession does see."
 
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MedicT said:
....and please Coach Jones for the entirety of your hopefully very successful tenure as Head Coach of my Tennessee Volunteers, NEVER again start a freshman QB in The Swamp.
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Better still, never again let down your team by losing an important game that we could have won and should have won because you appeased the complaining idiots on this board.
 
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TVOL71 said:
Even Saban finished his first regular season at Bama 6-6, and he had more depth, so give it time.
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Which of Saban's 6 losses was the largest margin of defeat for Bama in 100 years?

Which loss was against a favored rival that handed the game over, yet Bama gagged it?
 
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In his defense, Butch is trying to pull off miracles with a lack of talent that Saban was nowhere near when he took over. We have WR's and QB's with no real experience at all and RB's without the ability to outrun or overrun their opponents. 6-6 with an outside chance of 7-5 at this point. Unless Worley can turn it around and get his confidence going as a starting QB, then 6-6 is my prediction.

By the way, I don't think that Butch started Peterman because of the fans. He started him for 2 reasons: He wanted to see if the kid had guts enough to come out in a hostile environment and play like the highly touted QB he was coming out of high school, which he apparently isn't. He also wanted to light a fire under Worley and piss him off enough to come out and actually play like a starting SEC QB should.
 
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JCP201 said:
Quotes from Butch Jones after the game:

" We probably played the worst half of football ever. I'm already looking forward to next Saturday. I want to practice on Sunday.

Losing is never accepted at Tennessee nor tolerated.I'm disappointed and angry we lost. But I can also see the small steps we're taking."

I'm disappointed but I'm optimistic and encouraged. The whole state of Tennessee hurts right now. We represent them on every snap.
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the way this team plays he better get used to losing.lol
 
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1985Vols said:
We need athletes with SPEED! Bottom line, you can't win without playmakers and we have none, outside of maybe some freshmen that may become playmakers.
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Agreed. My wife is a FSU alum- and it's been obvious over the last few years how slow we are.
 
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sjt18 said:
Yes. You are right about that.

They couldn't keep contain and took WAY too long to adjust to the few things UF's back up QB did well.



UF's O has left MUCH to be desired so far this year. Their RB's may not be as good as UT's. Their OL has had some injuries and has guys playing hurt. They then lost their starting QB.

Their LB's are not what they've been in the past. Their DL is good but they constantly confounded UT's O with simple stunts that should have left big play opportunities if the right plays were called. They were playing their 3rd string CB's by the end of the game.

They had enough weaknesses for Jones to win this game if he had outcoached Muschamp. UF exploited UT's weaknesses... UT did not exploit UF's. That... is coaching.
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Yep....if Butch had inherited Muschamp's back up QB perhaps the tables would have turned.....but that is just dumb luck.

It is hard to exploit weaknesses when you don't have a QB.

You are overstating both Florida's weaknesses and the tools that Butch has to exploit them.
 
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tm3 said:
Which of Saban's 6 losses was the largest margin of defeat for Bama in 100 years?

Which loss was against a favored rival that handed the game over, yet Bama gagged it?
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I bet your a Gruden dreamer who thinks that guy with a 51% winning percentage would be able to do something. Make no mistake, Oregon is an outstanding team, and they were extra hyped for us. Preparing for that super speed offense is extra difficult when you have little depth and no playmakers on offense. If OU played Bama in the regular season with only a week to prepare, they would win by a couple of TDs, but with a month to prepare, Saban would probably prepare Bama to win. And if Saban was our new coach this year, he would not have done any better with this team. I hate to see us lose like that, but we simply don't have the team to compete at that level yet. While Fla did not play great, they definitely did not hand it over to us. But keep complaining, and if you get your way, we will change coaches every couple of years, and never get any better.
 
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Vol Main said:
Better still, never again let down your team by losing an important game that we could have won and should have won because you appeased the complaining idiots on this board.
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Think it was more about looking for a spark on offense. Doesn't matter how good our O line is if Vol QB can't conplete open passes consistently then the oppossing D will just outnumber you in the box. Plus he was hoping Peterman could keep the ball for a few yards on option. Unfortunately for everyone in orange the kid wilted. Had Worley started I doubt outcome changes. He had a pick against depleted gator secondary. Doesn't look like there's an SEC QB on the roster. Hard to beat ranked yeams without one.
 
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My take is we lack quality depth on D ,when the one's are tired we start to give up the big plays,and as far as the offense goes we don't really have one yet!
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Serious question: Would Dooley have had different results so far? I mean I cant imagine getting beat worse at OR. I guess FL could have been worse.
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Dooley almost got beat that bad by freakin' Vanderbilt last year. I understand if your not happy with the way things are going this year, but c'mon. (Also, Dooley really didn't seem to care about getting stomped...at least Coach Jones is emotionally invested.)
 
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NCVolfan6593 said:
I'm just curious....

Going into this season, what did you all THINK our record would be after 4 games? And how is our record, any different than what you expected? In fact, which GAME is any different than we expected?
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That's the macro. You have to be willing to look at the micro. Our offensive staff cannot prepare a QB to play even D- football. That's a problem.
 
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Lexvol said:
Yep....if Butch had inherited Muschamp's back up QB perhaps the tables would have turned.....but that is just dumb luck.

It is hard to exploit weaknesses when you don't have a QB.

You are overstating both Florida's weaknesses and the tools that Butch has to exploit them.
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I'm starting to think that our ability to grease and sharpen the existing tools is also a problem though --unfortunately. Playcalling, scheme, and preparation are lacking. As you posted elsewhere, the ability to get a QB ready for this level of competition is in fact a high order task. And it's one that this staff doesn't seem to be up to.
 
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Lifesabutch said:
Dooley almost got beat that bad by freakin' Vanderbilt last year. I understand if your not happy with the way things are going this year, but c'mon. (Also, Dooley really didn't seem to care about getting stomped...at least Coach Jones is emotionally invested.)
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It was just a comparative question. Lighten up Francis.
 
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