Butch Jones Show

[TNHopeful505]

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[KBVol]

this debacle on Dooley. Dooley didn't exactly inherit a good situation either. You apparently have forgotten that.

Inherited a bad situation, improved a bad roster only in numbers, not in talent. And imbedded a losing culture....that's why he's being brought up and criticized.

 

[KBVol]

Okay, seriously? Are you freaking kidding me?

You walk into a situation where you have the following:

4 QBs who have nearly no experience whatsoever, 4 QBs who none of the home state teams offered, and 3 QBs who had never taken a snap, and 2 QBs who last year were playing high school. Not knocking the QBs, but that's what it is.

5 RBs (Lane, Hill, Neal, Smith, Summerhill), only two of which had taken any meaningful snaps. Neal is a senior who was injured most of last season, and Lane was not present for most of spring practice. Smith had no experience, Hill had no experience, Summerhill had no experience. Pickett would have helped, but he doesn't get to plan on him either.

Your 3 best WR went to the draft (Hunter, Rogers, Patterson). Therefore, you're left with Dallas, who had 9 receptions in 12 games in his career. You have Drae Bowles who has not had a single snap, nor did Jason Croom, who was coming off of a redshirt and injury. Pig Howard has done well this year, but was not a big part of the offense last year, so it was a unknown if he would be able to take a leadership role. Devrin Young moved to WR this year, but of course, he's now injured. Johnathan Johnson was a solid addition by Butch at the last minute, but of course, he too is now injured. Paul Harris has yet to be seen, except for one catch. North has been as good as advertised, but the point is, zero experience at WR, and nearly all of the "experience" is hurt right now or brand new at the position.

Your best TE was drafted (Rivera), and you're left with a Volleyball player who is still learning football at this level, a guy who can't stay healthy since he's been there (Meredith), a true freshman in Branisel, and then Brendan Downs, who has performed pretty well, having 2 TDs already. Also very unexperienced at TE.

Your OL is the one thing you can seemingly rely on, but outside of that front 5, that still can't seem to get a nasty streak about them, everyone else is unexperienced as well. We saw that full well in the AP game.

Your DL is now hurt with the loss of Mo Couch, something that you didn't have a thing to do with. You've lost Vereen for a few games, Smith was out for 2 weeks, and you're having to rely on true freshmen like Jaylen Miller and Jason Carr. Saulsberry has stepped up, but apparently he's banged up now too. You're most likely pleased with D-line, but the ones who should be making a difference aren't, and you aren't in the backfield as nearly as you'd like to be.

Your LBs were hurt when Maggitt wasn't 100%, and still isn't. Not sure when he'll be back. Johnson has sucked in pass coverage, which has allowed you to get burnt across the middle, since he's a good run stopper, and teams are going to the passing game. Sapp got banged up yesterday, and Christian Harris and John Propst just aren't SEC caliber linebackers at this point.

Your secondary is a pretty talented group, but not deep either. You have a sophomore starting in McNeil, a Freshman starting in Sutton, the JUCO you brought in to help in Jones is hurt, and you're having to rely on walk-ons and true freshmen to bear the load. Thankfully, Coleman and Randolph are playing well, and Sutton is a pretty awesome prospect, but you still don't have the 2 deep you'd like to have to run a hurry up offense (meaning your D will be on the field more).

Palardy has done a great job at special teams, but he's having to wear himself out doing it all. When your offense can't extend drives, they're not just killing the defense, they're killing Palardy as well.

Vincent Dallas has done a good job returning, no qualms about him.


So, given all of that, you tell me how Butch Jones is in over his head, when half of his recruiting class wasn't even his, when 1/3 of his team had never made a road trip before, and how he played the freaking #2 best team in the country on the road.

Just idiotic to say. After one big game, that NOBODY sincerely thought we had a chance of winning.

We have no depth. No speed. And we have a senior class who has been through 4 different coordinators and 3 different head coaches.

Give me a break. This board is amazingly ridiculous.

This post is so damn good and so spot on.... Freak should make this mandatory reading before allowing another freakin post !

 

[TGVol]

At least when Dooley took the job, he had Bray, Hunter, Da'Rick Rogers, Bryce Brown, David Oku, and others on the roster. It wasn't completely decimated.

WRONG. Dooley recruited both Hunter and Rogers (flipped him from UGA). He also recruited the highly touted o-line.

 

[VOLnMiami]

Please remember CBJ had a losing season his first year at Cincy and then turned them completely around...Be patient...We are not going to win them all and probably just a few at first but better times are ahead...I believe that.

 

[VOLnMiami]

Okay, seriously? Are you freaking kidding me?

You walk into a situation where you have the following:

4 QBs who have nearly no experience whatsoever, 4 QBs who none of the home state teams offered, and 3 QBs who had never taken a snap, and 2 QBs who last year were playing high school. Not knocking the QBs, but that's what it is.

5 RBs (Lane, Hill, Neal, Smith, Summerhill), only two of which had taken any meaningful snaps. Neal is a senior who was injured most of last season, and Lane was not present for most of spring practice. Smith had no experience, Hill had no experience, Summerhill had no experience. Pickett would have helped, but he doesn't get to plan on him either.

Your 3 best WR went to the draft (Hunter, Rogers, Patterson). Therefore, you're left with Dallas, who had 9 receptions in 12 games in his career. You have Drae Bowles who has not had a single snap, nor did Jason Croom, who was coming off of a redshirt and injury. Pig Howard has done well this year, but was not a big part of the offense last year, so it was a unknown if he would be able to take a leadership role. Devrin Young moved to WR this year, but of course, he's now injured. Johnathan Johnson was a solid addition by Butch at the last minute, but of course, he too is now injured. Paul Harris has yet to be seen, except for one catch. North has been as good as advertised, but the point is, zero experience at WR, and nearly all of the "experience" is hurt right now or brand new at the position.

Your best TE was drafted (Rivera), and you're left with a Volleyball player who is still learning football at this level, a guy who can't stay healthy since he's been there (Meredith), a true freshman in Branisel, and then Brendan Downs, who has performed pretty well, having 2 TDs already. Also very unexperienced at TE.

Your OL is the one thing you can seemingly rely on, but outside of that front 5, that still can't seem to get a nasty streak about them, everyone else is unexperienced as well. We saw that full well in the AP game.

Your DL is now hurt with the loss of Mo Couch, something that you didn't have a thing to do with. You've lost Vereen for a few games, Smith was out for 2 weeks, and you're having to rely on true freshmen like Jaylen Miller and Jason Carr. Saulsberry has stepped up, but apparently he's banged up now too. You're most likely pleased with D-line, but the ones who should be making a difference aren't, and you aren't in the backfield as nearly as you'd like to be.

Your LBs were hurt when Maggitt wasn't 100%, and still isn't. Not sure when he'll be back. Johnson has sucked in pass coverage, which has allowed you to get burnt across the middle, since he's a good run stopper, and teams are going to the passing game. Sapp got banged up yesterday, and Christian Harris and John Propst just aren't SEC caliber linebackers at this point.

Your secondary is a pretty talented group, but not deep either. You have a sophomore starting in McNeil, a Freshman starting in Sutton, the JUCO you brought in to help in Jones is hurt, and you're having to rely on walk-ons and true freshmen to bear the load. Thankfully, Coleman and Randolph are playing well, and Sutton is a pretty awesome prospect, but you still don't have the 2 deep you'd like to have to run a hurry up offense (meaning your D will be on the field more).

Palardy has done a great job at special teams, but he's having to wear himself out doing it all. When your offense can't extend drives, they're not just killing the defense, they're killing Palardy as well.

Vincent Dallas has done a good job returning, no qualms about him.


So, given all of that, you tell me how Butch Jones is in over his head, when half of his recruiting class wasn't even his, when 1/3 of his team had never made a road trip before, and how he played the freaking #2 best team in the country on the road.

Just idiotic to say. After one big game, that NOBODY sincerely thought we had a chance of winning.

We have no depth. No speed. And we have a senior class who has been through 4 different coordinators and 3 different head coaches.

Give me a break. This board is amazingly ridiculous.

Wow dead on the money with this post!...People don't seem to understand this team isn't a top SEC team...It's a bottom SEC team that is going to work its way back up the ladder one step at a time.

 

[Bluff City Vol]

I'm just worried how the current players interpret this statement. On the one hand he says I love this guys and trust them while at the same time says this about recruiting. It's the timing of when he said it that bothers me (right after the blowout while answering questions about this specific game as if implying that coaching and game plan was ok but there is only so much coaches can do with these players). I agree that players may not be talented enough but there was also evidence yesterday that the coaches may be in over their head as well (this is no longer Cincy or Central Michigan and who knows if these coaches have what it takes - sure did not look like it yesterday).

Lol

 

[majic73]

this debacle on Dooley. Dooley didn't exactly inherit a good situation either. You apparently have forgotten that.

no but Dooley could have won alot more than he did with the players that he had . Not saying Dooley shoulda beat Bama ...but UK and the 3 or 4 games he had a shot in last season .

This was not a game we had a shot in , just like we wont at Bama . CBJ couldnt used gamma radiation , pixie dust , a four leaf clover , voodoo curses ect and not had a shot at these guys with our current players , most notably QB and receivers

 

[JFBanicki]

this debacle on Dooley. Dooley didn't exactly inherit a good situation either. You apparently have forgotten that.

Yah but Dooley had 3 years to fix the situation and he didn't. He also got to come in when UT was still a school that high school players knew as competitive since we were in the SEC CG in 07.
He got to come in and pull in a class that Kiffin helped build and use his "newness" and hope to pull in a few other solid recruits. Then after his first year he still had the year zero excuse and was able to get some kids. But after his second season it was clear that he was not a good coach and he was taking UT further from top rather than coaching them back to the top. At that point his presence was making things worse and his final season on the field and on the recruiting trail made this a much worse situation than what he walked into.
At least when Fulmer was fired and Kiffin left they had won some games they shouldn't have and didn't burn bridges on the recruiting trail.

 

[Chilmonty]

Butch just needs time to wash the stink of Dooley off these players.

^Post of year candidate IMO! Well played Volfan! :hi:


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[MedicT]

Okay, seriously? Are you freaking kidding me?

You walk into a situation where you have the following:

4 QBs who have nearly no experience whatsoever, 4 QBs who none of the home state teams offered, and 3 QBs who had never taken a snap, and 2 QBs who last year were playing high school. Not knocking the QBs, but that's what it is.

5 RBs (Lane, Hill, Neal, Smith, Summerhill), only two of which had taken any meaningful snaps. Neal is a senior who was injured most of last season, and Lane was not present for most of spring practice. Smith had no experience, Hill had no experience, Summerhill had no experience. Pickett would have helped, but he doesn't get to plan on him either.

Your 3 best WR went to the draft (Hunter, Rogers, Patterson). Therefore, you're left with Dallas, who had 9 receptions in 12 games in his career. You have Drae Bowles who has not had a single snap, nor did Jason Croom, who was coming off of a redshirt and injury. Pig Howard has done well this year, but was not a big part of the offense last year, so it was a unknown if he would be able to take a leadership role. Devrin Young moved to WR this year, but of course, he's now injured. Johnathan Johnson was a solid addition by Butch at the last minute, but of course, he too is now injured. Paul Harris has yet to be seen, except for one catch. North has been as good as advertised, but the point is, zero experience at WR, and nearly all of the "experience" is hurt right now or brand new at the position.

Your best TE was drafted (Rivera), and you're left with a Volleyball player who is still learning football at this level, a guy who can't stay healthy since he's been there (Meredith), a true freshman in Branisel, and then Brendan Downs, who has performed pretty well, having 2 TDs already. Also very unexperienced at TE.

Your OL is the one thing you can seemingly rely on, but outside of that front 5, that still can't seem to get a nasty streak about them, everyone else is unexperienced as well. We saw that full well in the AP game.

Your DL is now hurt with the loss of Mo Couch, something that you didn't have a thing to do with. You've lost Vereen for a few games, Smith was out for 2 weeks, and you're having to rely on true freshmen like Jaylen Miller and Jason Carr. Saulsberry has stepped up, but apparently he's banged up now too. You're most likely pleased with D-line, but the ones who should be making a difference aren't, and you aren't in the backfield as nearly as you'd like to be.

Your LBs were hurt when Maggitt wasn't 100%, and still isn't. Not sure when he'll be back. Johnson has sucked in pass coverage, which has allowed you to get burnt across the middle, since he's a good run stopper, and teams are going to the passing game. Sapp got banged up yesterday, and Christian Harris and John Propst just aren't SEC caliber linebackers at this point.

Your secondary is a pretty talented group, but not deep either. You have a sophomore starting in McNeil, a Freshman starting in Sutton, the JUCO you brought in to help in Jones is hurt, and you're having to rely on walk-ons and true freshmen to bear the load. Thankfully, Coleman and Randolph are playing well, and Sutton is a pretty awesome prospect, but you still don't have the 2 deep you'd like to have to run a hurry up offense (meaning your D will be on the field more).

Palardy has done a great job at special teams, but he's having to wear himself out doing it all. When your offense can't extend drives, they're not just killing the defense, they're killing Palardy as well.

Vincent Dallas has done a good job returning, no qualms about him.


So, given all of that, you tell me how Butch Jones is in over his head, when half of his recruiting class wasn't even his, when 1/3 of his team had never made a road trip before, and how he played the freaking #2 best team in the country on the road.

Just idiotic to say. After one big game, that NOBODY sincerely thought we had a chance of winning.

We have no depth. No speed. And we have a senior class who has been through 4 different coordinators and 3 different head coaches.

Give me a break. This board is amazingly ridiculous.

Best, most accurate post I've read on here in a long time. Kudo's:salute:

 

[Vato]

Butch just needs time to wash the stink of Dooley off these players.

Also the stink of Sal. I imagine he smells of sardines, old chaw,and bad coaching.

 

[FLSTF-VOL]

Okay, seriously? Are you freaking kidding me?

You walk into a situation where you have the following:

4 QBs who have nearly no experience whatsoever, 4 QBs who none of the home state teams offered, and 3 QBs who had never taken a snap, and 2 QBs who last year were playing high school. Not knocking the QBs, but that's what it is.

5 RBs (Lane, Hill, Neal, Smith, Summerhill), only two of which had taken any meaningful snaps. Neal is a senior who was injured most of last season, and Lane was not present for most of spring practice. Smith had no experience, Hill had no experience, Summerhill had no experience. Pickett would have helped, but he doesn't get to plan on him either.

Your 3 best WR went to the draft (Hunter, Rogers, Patterson). Therefore, you're left with Dallas, who had 9 receptions in 12 games in his career. You have Drae Bowles who has not had a single snap, nor did Jason Croom, who was coming off of a redshirt and injury. Pig Howard has done well this year, but was not a big part of the offense last year, so it was a unknown if he would be able to take a leadership role. Devrin Young moved to WR this year, but of course, he's now injured. Johnathan Johnson was a solid addition by Butch at the last minute, but of course, he too is now injured. Paul Harris has yet to be seen, except for one catch. North has been as good as advertised, but the point is, zero experience at WR, and nearly all of the "experience" is hurt right now or brand new at the position.

Your best TE was drafted (Rivera), and you're left with a Volleyball player who is still learning football at this level, a guy who can't stay healthy since he's been there (Meredith), a true freshman in Branisel, and then Brendan Downs, who has performed pretty well, having 2 TDs already. Also very unexperienced at TE.

Your OL is the one thing you can seemingly rely on, but outside of that front 5, that still can't seem to get a nasty streak about them, everyone else is unexperienced as well. We saw that full well in the AP game.

Your DL is now hurt with the loss of Mo Couch, something that you didn't have a thing to do with. You've lost Vereen for a few games, Smith was out for 2 weeks, and you're having to rely on true freshmen like Jaylen Miller and Jason Carr. Saulsberry has stepped up, but apparently he's banged up now too. You're most likely pleased with D-line, but the ones who should be making a difference aren't, and you aren't in the backfield as nearly as you'd like to be.

Your LBs were hurt when Maggitt wasn't 100%, and still isn't. Not sure when he'll be back. Johnson has sucked in pass coverage, which has allowed you to get burnt across the middle, since he's a good run stopper, and teams are going to the passing game. Sapp got banged up yesterday, and Christian Harris and John Propst just aren't SEC caliber linebackers at this point.

Your secondary is a pretty talented group, but not deep either. You have a sophomore starting in McNeil, a Freshman starting in Sutton, the JUCO you brought in to help in Jones is hurt, and you're having to rely on walk-ons and true freshmen to bear the load. Thankfully, Coleman and Randolph are playing well, and Sutton is a pretty awesome prospect, but you still don't have the 2 deep you'd like to have to run a hurry up offense (meaning your D will be on the field more).

Palardy has done a great job at special teams, but he's having to wear himself out doing it all. When your offense can't extend drives, they're not just killing the defense, they're killing Palardy as well.

Vincent Dallas has done a good job returning, no qualms about him.


So, given all of that, you tell me how Butch Jones is in over his head, when half of his recruiting class wasn't even his, when 1/3 of his team had never made a road trip before, and how he played the freaking #2 best team in the country on the road.

Just idiotic to say. After one big game, that NOBODY sincerely thought we had a chance of winning.

We have no depth. No speed. And we have a senior class who has been through 4 different coordinators and 3 different head coaches.

Give me a break. This board is amazingly ridiculous.

Whats amazingly ridiculous is all the excuses we keep making. We have what we have and its Coach Jones and his staffs job to coach them up.

I keep hearing all the BS about depth, lack of play makers, etc. etc.

North Dakota State beat Kansas State opening day. No one here can tell anyone that NDS has the depth and skill players that K-state does. Akron almost beat Michigan yesterday, same thing, in no shape form or fashion does Akron have the depth and skill players that Michigan has. Yet they almost beat Michigan at Michigan.

Coach Jones is not making excuses and is not hiding behind them. He understands its his job to coach and put this team in a position to win. Surprisingly he had a very poor game plan and an even worse execution of a poor game plan. He knows its unacceptable and I think he expects to be held accountable for it.

A loss like yesterday should never be acceptable, never.

 

[TNHopeful505]

WRONG. Dooley recruited both Hunter and Rogers (flipped him from UGA). He also recruited the highly touted o-line.

Yes but before Dooley ever coached a snap they were on there. He recruited them, but he never had a game where they weren't on his roster.

 

[TGVol]

Yes but before Dooley ever coached a snap they were on there. He recruited them, but he never had a game where they weren't on his roster.

Rogers was not on his roster in any game last year.

 

[majic73]

Whats amazingly ridiculous is all the excuses we keep making. We have what we have and its Coach Jones and his staffs job to coach them up.

I keep hearing all the BS about depth, lack of play makers, etc. etc.

North Dakota State beat Kansas State opening day. No one here can tell anyone that NDS has the depth and skill players that K-state does. Akron almost beat Michigan yesterday, same thing, in no shape form or fashion does Akron have the depth and skill players that Michigan has. Yet they almost beat Michigan at Michigan.

Coach Jones is not making excuses and is not hiding behind them. He understands its his job to coach and put this team in a position to win. Surprisingly he had a very poor game plan and an even worse execution of a poor game plan. He knows its unacceptable and I think he expects to be held accountable for it.

A loss like yesterday should never be acceptable, never.

Yes but those are very different situations. Oregon is a team that is a perfect fit to take advantage of our weaknesses....weaknesses that cannot be resolved by coaching

We do not have a QB at this point that can sustain drives. Oregon keys on our inside running game ...and we are three and out . Compounding the issue is we have young inexperienced receivers that are not helping. defense is back on the field

We do not have dominate interior defensive tackles. You cant pass rush from the edge on Oregon...you have to play contain . Cant blitz them because their zone read causing an extra backside gap that must be controlled. So we end up with a quarter back that has all day in the pocket .

We have a young secondary ..with walk-ons on the field . The receivers they are matching up against are faster . Our guys have maybe 3-4 seconds of good coverage in them against these guys ...but the QB has all day because there is no interior pass rush . Play zone or play man ..after 3 seconds guys are running open .

Then the fast pace of Oregon . We have no depth . No subs ( see the 2nd half of Austin Peay) of value. We have an offense that cant convert a 3rd down . Defense on the field over and over .

Worley or one of the others may get there this season ...QB development takes time. When we play a team we can pass rush from the edge and blitz , we will look much better up front , and our secondary will be good with a 3-4 second window. Our depth issue will not be as noticeable against a team that keeps a more standard pace.

It was just a match up that accentuates our weaknesses. These particular weaknesses will only be resolved with time and development and recruiting

 

[TNHopeful505]

Rogers was not on his roster in any game last year.

That's not the point. The point was what Dooley walked into. Not what he had last year.

 

[TNHopeful505]

Whats amazingly ridiculous is all the excuses we keep making. We have what we have and its Coach Jones and his staffs job to coach them up.

I keep hearing all the BS about depth, lack of play makers, etc. etc.

North Dakota State beat Kansas State opening day. No one here can tell anyone that NDS has the depth and skill players that K-state does. Akron almost beat Michigan yesterday, same thing, in no shape form or fashion does Akron have the depth and skill players that Michigan has. Yet they almost beat Michigan at Michigan.

Coach Jones is not making excuses and is not hiding behind them. He understands its his job to coach and put this team in a position to win. Surprisingly he had a very poor game plan and an even worse execution of a poor game plan. He knows its unacceptable and I think he expects to be held accountable for it.

A loss like yesterday should never be acceptable, never.

Well, if it's so dang easy then, you go do it.

Oh wait. They didn't hire you. Why? Because you obviously aren't a coach. And if you are, you're not good enough to coach UT.

So what you need to do is simple:

Support our team and let the man we call coach do his job. He can't work miracles. Our coach came out and said himself it's unacceptable. But he wasn't the one out there playing, and it's not even his choice of players on the field! He's doing what he can with what he has, and what he has is a lot of players who can't hang with a team where everyone runs under a 4.5 on both sides of the ball. He has no depth, he has no experience, and he has a ton of stupid people that call themselves "Fans" scrutinizing his every decision, like every single thing about Tennessee football is exactly how he wants it. In 3-4 years from now, when Jones has a roster full of players that are wearing the orange because he and his staff wanted them to wear it, then you can say something. Until then, just let the man work.

His name is Butch. Not Jesus.

 

[T_man_J]

Okay, seriously? Are you freaking kidding me?

You walk into a situation where you have the following:

.. bla, bla, too verbose...

5 RBs (Lane, Hill, Neal, Smith, Summerhill), only two of which had taken any meaningful snaps. Neal is a ... bla, bla...

...
Give me a break. This board is amazingly ridiculous.

Let me clue you in on what my expectations are.

I expect our coaching staff to take inventory of our personnel, adapt strategies, create plays, innovate, modify, and do whatever it takes to make our team competitive in every game. I don't care if you have to put in the veer (wishbone). You do what it takes.

I expect our coaching staff to know the tendencies of every opponent and be able to teach our kids how to react. For example, how to defend a triplet formation, how to maintain zone integrity, flare responsibilities, etc.

I don't expect a staff to simply say "I have my system, and I can't compete until I get my players."

If we don't find a way to compete now, we will not retain this recruiting class.

 

[TennFan]

Surprised to see the "Butch Jones Show" on TV here in central Fla. It comes on Sunday afternoon from 12:30-1:30PM. Now if I can catch it Sunday after church, is nice.

 

[TGVol]

That's not the point. The point was what Dooley walked into. Not what he had last year.

He did not walk into that. He recruited them and deserves credit for it (even though he had even less time when he was hired than CBJ). Nobody stopped CBJ to recruit that type of talent right after he joined - the fact is he could not pull it off right away (not blaming him but just stating the fact). CBJ is doing great with recruiting right now (much better than Dooley overall) - but it is the fact the Dooley did better during those first few months right after he was hired (Hunter and Rogers are the proof of that fact - and the fact he was able to get those two and later CP is the sole reason he was given the third year to see how they do when they have some experience - otherwise he most likely would have bee fired after that ugly Kentucky loss).

 

[volswillrise12]

Look I think there's a reason we were turned down by Strong for the head coaching position (glad CBJ got the job). There are the tools and facilities in place to win big here---the roster has been a mess for years and I think everyone knows that---it should never fall into a scenario where a freshman should take the reigns of the QB position here--unfortunately like other positions on the roster there isn't a choice. I know everyone wants to throw out let's put Dobbs and Ferguson in there well that could happen...but should it? No, because both of those guys don't have the talent AROUND them that's going to make this better then a 5 or 6 win team.

 

[TNHopeful505]

Let me clue you in on what my expectations are.

I expect our coaching staff to take inventory of our personnel, adapt strategies, create plays, innovate, modify, and do whatever it takes to make our team competitive in every game. I don't care if you have to put in the veer (wishbone). You do what it takes.

I expect our coaching staff to know the tendencies of every opponent and be able to teach our kids how to react. For example, how to defend a triplet formation, how to maintain zone integrity, flare responsibilities, etc.

I don't expect a staff to simply say "I have my system, and I can't compete until I get my players."

If we don't find a way to compete now, we will not retain this recruiting class.

In my opinion, I think they did a pretty good job playcalling yesterday. I wish we would have gone for it more on 4th down, but I can understand that decision, and can live with it.

What can you really do? You have a QB who can't make the simplest of passes, and who consistently throws behind receivers, or in the dirt. You throw it long, it's an incompletion or an interception. You throw it short, he misses those too.

So your only chance is to run. And everyone in the stadium knows that. So, you run behind a talented OLine and you get some yards, but when they're bringing 8 in the box, good luck.

Yeah, I expect our coaches to do with the talent we have, but we don't have talent at WR yet (we have potential, but they're not there. Still missing routes, still dropping balls, not looking at the QB. I mean for Pete's sake, Worley hit North in the back of the head against WKU!). We don't have a QB who can run, so the option is pointless. I honestly think he's scared to run with it, unless it's against Austin Peay. You can't tell me Butch told him EVERY time to hand it off to the tailback. Worley is choosing not to run, even though he'd be successful.

Our D got tired, and who can blame them? You have very few LB's who can play, now, you have very few DL who can play, and you have very few DB's who can play. We have no depth, and a new system, so I don't care who you are, you're going to get burnt, and you're going to miss assignments. It's just what happens. It's not necessarily on the coaches, it's just growing pains.

We will be competitive. But we don't have much to work with right now. It's just the facts. We're doing well on the ground, which is our strength. But if we don't have a little help through the air, we're going to get stifled on offense, and worn out on defense.

 

[volswillrise12]

He did not walk into that. He recruited them and deserves credit for it (even though he had even less time when he was hired than CBJ). Nobody stopped CBJ to recruit that type of talent right after he joined - the fact is he could not pull it off right away (not blaming him but just stating the fact). CBJ is doing great with recruiting right now (much better than Dooley overall) - but it is the fact the Dooley did better during those first few months right after he was hired (Hunter and Rogers are the proof of that fact - and the fact he was able to get those two and later CP is the sole reason he was given the third year to see how they do when they have some experience - otherwise he most likely would have bee fired after that ugly Kentucky loss).

You've still go to pin some blame on Dooley for the administrative issues and the no offensive linemen in a recruiting cycle. He had some big misses---that's why we are down to walk-ons in the secondary.

 

[mreorange]

I'm 100% behind this staff,and for no reason want to speak badly of them! But if you wear that T on your helmet you should never ever lose that badly! Get in the film room boys