Buy out the Oregon game now!

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#302
Buying out this game is an absolutely STUPID idea. The noncon win will not assist in becoming bowl eligible with our schedule which is the only reason for doing so. So many things can change between the game and the current situation. It is a good thing the OP doesn't play cards, fold every time. We have a great opportunity and you just want to fold, wow.

As for ND's schedule their difficulty was in the top ten while ours was in the thirties I believe. ND started off badly but progressed from game to game, which happens to good teams when they are being coached.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Probably so. And then if you asked them the next morning after they get beat by 50+, I bet they would say it wasn't worth it.
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Then let's ask all teams that lose (since you have us being beaten like redheaded stepchildren in this game before it gets played) how they feel about the game the played the night before.

How about this for a concept: We go up there and actually win the damn thing? Then let's ask them the next morning if they felt we should have bought out the game.
 
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Baller Vol said:
Now i know you're about to say "Were Tennessee we dont back down! We will play anybody!"

But lets be honest Were not winning a championship next year, It will be an auto loss, Next years goal needs to be to get to a bowl game.

And with this schedule, Were not guaranteed to win 5 games.

Austin Peay
Western Kentucky
at Oregon
at Florida
South Alabama
Georgia
Open Date
South Carolina
at Alabama
at Missouri
Auburn
Open Date
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

Auburn will be alot better under Malzahn.

Missour will be better.

Vandy will be good (Despite what alot of UT fans wanna think)

Hell Western Kentucky is not a 100% win IMO

Theres a CHANCE we lose 8 games for the first time EVER.

Call me what you want but for the best interest in this program we need to buy out this game.
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Troll
 
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Baller Vol said:
How does it help us to go get smacked by 45+ plus in Eugene?
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how does it help on the field or in life to teach your players to run away from anything tough because its not worth trying and that as a coach you dont have any faith in them......to be the best you have to beat the best.....if all we are gonna play is guaranteed wins i dont even want to watch the games......WHERES THE COMPETITIVE SPIRIT
 
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WTF? Is this guy serious? When we ANNIHILATE them wuss-pothead Oregonians,we will RECIEVE TREMENDOUS NATIONAL PUBLICITY!!! Go back to bammer.com,OP! go Volunteers of Tennessee! Back down? My good sir,you MUST be a Yankee.
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Webbvol32 said:
WTF? Is this guy serious? When we ANNIHILATE them wuss-pothead Oregonians,we will RECIEVE TREMENDOUS NATIONAL PUBLICITY!!! Go back to bammer.com,OP! go Volunteers of Tennessee! Back down? My good sir,you MUST be a Yankee.
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Oregon could slaughter UT. If UT wins it will be by less than 7.

Put the weed down.
 
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Oregon came to Knoxville with no guarantee of winning. Playing good competition never hurts, even if you are getting beat.

You can't disguise your team's weaknesses. We started out this season with 2 wins. It gave false confidence that this year might be different. People thought the NC State win was proof of some turnaround. It meant nothing as Florida showed in week 3.

You take your losses when they come after the game is scheduled. If you don't want the chance of losing, then don't schedule anybody but weak weenies outside the SEC. I hope it hasn't come to this, where we're avoiding scheduled games because we're scared of losing.
 
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It's amazing how we have had top 25 classes for the last several years (well except for Fulmer's last class) and everyone thinks we can't beat anyone. Tn can beat anyone with decent coaching. Play the game and play up to our potential and we stand a chance of beating those left coast Nike uniform losers.

Have some faith.
 
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LibertyVolance said:
Oregon came to Knoxville with no guarantee of winning. Playing good competition never hurts, even if you are getting beat.

You can't disguise your team's weaknesses. We started out this season with 2 wins. It gave false confidence that this year might be different. People thought the NC State win was proof of some turnaround. It meant nothing as Florida showed in week 3.

You take your losses when they come after the game is scheduled. If you don't want the chance of losing, then don't schedule anybody but weak weenies outside the SEC. I hope it hasn't come to this, where we're avoiding scheduled games because we're scared of losing.
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This is basically what every other team in the conference does. Playing games like Oregon puts us at a competitive disadvantage when it comes to bowl eligibility because while everyone else is scheduling 4 guaranteed wins, we schedule 3 guaranteed wins and one guaranteed loss.

I still have yet to see anyone make a legit argument of what good comes from flying all the way across the country just to let Oregon lay an epic beatdown on us. Simply proving you aren't scared isn't really a positive IMO.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
This is basically what every other team in the conference does. Playing games like Oregon puts us at a competitive disadvantage when it comes to bowl eligibility because while everyone else is scheduling 4 guaranteed wins, we schedule 3 guaranteed wins and one guaranteed loss.

I still have yet to see anyone make a legit argument of what good comes from flying all the way across the country just to let Oregon lay an epic beatdown on us. Simply proving you aren't scared isn't really a positive IMO.
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Do you think Alabama didn't get some press by playing Michigan to open the season? Playing a strong team early is some of the best press you can get. Playing a good team and playing well doesn't hurt you, even if you lose.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
This is basically what every other team in the conference does. Playing games like Oregon puts us at a competitive disadvantage when it comes to bowl eligibility because while everyone else is scheduling 4 guaranteed wins, we schedule 3 guaranteed wins and one guaranteed loss.

I still have yet to see anyone make a legit argument of what good comes from flying all the way across the country just to let Oregon lay an epic beatdown on us. Simply proving you aren't scared isn't really a positive IMO.
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Then you shouldn't schedule games like this again. But you don't back out of a scheduled game. Look at the precedent for this that Dooley laid in his brief tenure. He cancelled North Carolina. Were we better for this decision? No we were not. It cost us some bad reputation and it didn't lead us to bowl games, but it did cost us a measure of self-respect. Let me clue you. We aren't headed to any major BCS bowl games quite this quick anyway. Play the game and learn how much speed matters. Test the new 4-3 defense under new leadership against an offensive juggernaut. We can't guage our progression, if there is some, by playing Akron or UT Martin.
 
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VolStrom said:
Do you think Alabama didn't get some press by playing Michigan to open the season? Playing a strong team early is some of the best press you can get. Playing a good team and playing well doesn't hurt you, even if you lose.
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Depends on what your end goal for the season is. If you're in a place like we are now, where simply getting bowl eligible would be a big accomplishment, a game like this could easily be the difference between 5 and 6 wins. If your hope is to make a run at the NC, many years, one loss, even a close one, will put that dream to an end. I'll agree with you that a close loss to a big name team doesn't really hurt, and might even slightly help, teams who are middle of the pack and are likely to end up in the CFA or Outback Bowl.

I still don't see any good that's going to come from getting beat by MULTIPLE touchdowns like we're almost certain to against Oregon. It'll just be another opportunity for everyone to laugh at how the mighty have fallen.
 
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LibertyVolance said:
Then you shouldn't schedule games like this again. But you don't back out of a scheduled game. Look at the precedent for this that Dooley laid in his brief tenure. He cancelled North Carolina. Were we better for this decision? No we were not. It cost us some bad reputation and it didn't lead us to bowl games, but it did cost us a measure of self-respect. Let me clue you. We aren't headed to any major BCS bowl games quite this quick anyway. Play the game and learn how much speed matters. Test the new 4-3 defense under new leadership against an offensive juggernaut. We can't guage our progression, if there is some, by playing Akron or UT Martin.
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This is the real essence of my argument. 20 years ago a team like us who has to recruit nationally needed to play in other parts of the country to get added visibility. That's simply not the case anymore. With the new TV contracts and 24/7 ESPN coverage, games like this no longer have any business on our (or any other SEC teams) schedule. Sadly we've signed up to be Oregon, Oklahoma and Nebraska's whipping post over the next 5 years. Hopefully after that our AD will see the light and stop scheduling these stupid games.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
This is the real essence of my argument. 20 years ago a team like us who has to recruit nationally needed to play in other parts of the country to get added visibility. That's simply not the case anymore. With the new TV contracts and 24/7 ESPN coverage, games like this no longer have any business on our (or any other SEC teams) schedule. Sadly we've signed up to be Oregon, Oklahoma and Nebraska's whipping post over the next 5 years. Hopefully after that our AD will see the light and stop scheduling these stupid games.
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Good point, but I still don't see any good that can come from nationally being known for pussin out of games. I think we may surprise some people.... wishful thinking? Maybe, but I don't like running from a challenge.
 
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DjCrenshaw said:
Good point, but I still don't see any good that can come from nationally being known for pussin out of games. I think we may surprise some people.... wishful thinking? Maybe, but I don't like running from a challenge.
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It's like I keep telling the guy. If we don't want these type of challenges, then don't schedule them in the first place.

But never wimp out on your commitments. One time was one time too many with UNC. Now some of our fans want to replicate that example? I can't believe it.
 
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#325
We have some of the sorriest fans. People wanting to puss out. I hope you don't teach your kids to quit when it gets rough, or to run from a challenge.

But I'm sure you guys do.
 
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