'19 CA LB Henry To'oto'o (Tennessee Signee)

[VolInDayton]

Aight, I know we've been over this dozens of times and people still give conflicting responses.

Per TW's post, which is what these few posts have been in response to,

an EE can count in 18 class if spots are available - "shall be an initial counter for either the current academic year(which for an EE this year would be for the 2018 class not the 2019 class) (if the institution’s annual limit has not been reached)"

or he can count in 19 class - "the next academic year" (which would be 19 class, the class we are now recruiting for)

So, based on this Bama, nor anyone else, can borrow into the future with EEs. Transfers are a different situation.

Alabama enrolled 21 last class. That means if there are 4 early EEs that they can sign 29 in this cycle.

Also if some people EE in the '18 cycle and there were open spots in the '17 class would there be a chance they could get more than 29 in this year if there are more EEs in the '19 cycle;e counting towards '18?

 

[OrangenSC]

So could you explain about transfers please? Kennedy, a grad transfer, counts against 19. Solomon, a transfer, counts against...???

All I know is what I read on VN. Based on that, Solomon doesn't count against any year, only the 85 limit. I can't explain why there's a difference between transfers and grad transfers.

 

[Tidal Surge]

Everywhere I look shows tootoo going to al. They show 23 signed and 3 commits for total of 26. I thought 25 limit. How do they plan to pull this off?

He has a spot. That’s all you need to know

Yep. To'oto'o and Bogle both have spots and are top priorities.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Yep. To'oto'o and Bogle both have spots and are top priorities.

Nice edit. If you wonder why people don't like you, it's because of comments like that.

 

[volsagain]

Yep. To'oto'o and Bogle both have spots and are top priorities.

Well, we'll just split with you guys. How about that.

 

[OrangenSC]

Alabama enrolled 21 last class. That means if there are 4 early EEs that they can sign 29 in this cycle.

Also if some people EE in the '18 cycle and there were open spots in the '17 class would there be a chance they could get more than 29 in this year if there are more EEs in the '19 cycle;e counting towards '18?

My head hurts. Going strictly by the numbers you posted, yes there would be a chance they could count more than 29. If true they had only 21 last year (18), and say 2 of those were able to be counted for 17 as EEs, then they could sign 31 this year (19) if 6 are EEs.

 

[Tidal Surge]

All I know is what I read on VN. Based on that, Solomon doesn't count against any year, only the 85 limit. I can't explain why there's a difference between transfers and grad transfers.

All transfers (juco, undergrad and grad) count against all three limits, the 25 signings (NLI & aid agreement) per academic year limit, the 25 initial counters per academic year limit and the 85 total counters limit. Anyone saying otherwise does not know the NCAA Bylaws very well.

 

[MiramarVol]

Who cares what Bama can sign honestly.

 

[onevol74]

Going to Bama means a higher chance of getting processed. Look at how many kids they process each year. That is the only way they can sign a full class.

 

[bignewt]

All transfers (juco, undergrad and grad) count against all three limits, the 25 signings (NLI & aid agreement) per academic year limit, the 25 initial counters per academic year limit and the 85 total counters limit. Anyone saying otherwise does not know the NCAA Bylaws very well.

Wrong.

 

[Tidal Surge]

Wrong.

No. What I posted is correct. You cannot find any provisions in the NCAA Bylaws stating or implying that incoming transfers are not counted essentially the same as recruits from HS.

The only semi-exception is when a nonqualifier signs an NLI at a school, the school does not get back the signing limit spot that he counted toward to use for another player. Instead, if that nonqualifier transfers to and enrolls at that school after graduating Juco, he won't count again toward any signings limit at that school.

 

[thunder5]

It's Bama or UT with most saying Bama has the edge right now. My guess is Niedermeyer makes this kid and Wright all he focuses on until NSD and we sign both.

100% agree...and we either keep Harris or put the press on Jammie if Harris decommits

 

[Tidal Surge]

Going to Bama means a higher chance of getting processed. Look at how many kids they process each year. That is the only way they can sign a full class.

Are you sure about that?

 

[head1]

Who cares what Bama can sign honestly.

In this case, anyone interested in this kid coming here. They fill up and our chances improve.

 

[nashvol1]

It’s kind of foolish at this point to criticize Bama for anything. Overpromising kids might be one but all programs do it. I wish we had 50+ ESPN 300 players on the roster and had optionality.

Let’s go win players straight up.

 

[Jackcrevol]

This fanbase obsesses about Bama.

Let's worry about Candy first.

 

[brentcontractor]

Yep. To'oto'o and Bogle both have spots and are top priorities.

Why does a bama fan keep posting on a ut site?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Why does a bama fan keep posting on a ut site?

Because they colossal losers and doesnt have anyone with the skills and talents like Freak to make a message board as good as VN.

 

[bignewt]

No. What I posted is correct. You cannot find any provisions in the NCAA Bylaws stating or implying that incoming transfers are not counted essentially the same as recruits from HS.

The only semi-exception is when a non-qualifier signs an NLI at a school, the school does not get back that signing limit spot he counted toward to use for another player. Instead, if that non-qualifier transfers to and enrolls at that school after graduating Juco, he won't count again toward any signings limit at that school.

Wrong. A transfer is not an initial counter. They have already counted in their original class. Suck it.

 

[StoVol]

What my brethren proclaimeth!

 

[AaronUT]

Wrong.

No. What I posted is correct. You cannot find any provisions in the NCAA Bylaws stating or implying that incoming transfers are not counted essentially the same as recruits from HS.

The only semi-exception is when a non-qualifier signs an NLI at a school, the school does not get back that signing limit spot he counted toward to use for another player. Instead, if that non-qualifier transfers to and enrolls at that school after graduating Juco, he won't count again toward any signings limit at that school.

Are you sure about that?

Wrong. A transfer is not an initial counter. They have already counted in their original class. Suck it.

 

[1TheCoach1]

My head hurts. Going strictly by the numbers you posted, yes there would be a chance they could count more than 29. If true they had only 21 last year (18), and say 2 of those were able to be counted for 17 as EEs, then they could sign 31 this year (19) if 6 are EEs.

Bama signed 29 in 2017. They had to use greyshirts and blue shirts to make it work and to stay within the 25 limit average while also staying at the 85 total scholarship limit. There was a reason they only signed 22 last year, it is because that is all they could sign because of the 2017 class. If they sign more than the 26 they have committed or signed right now right now I believe they will run into the same problem.

 

[butchna]

Not coming here. Another second place finish for the Vols. Sad it’s gotten this way. Glory days are long gone.

Bump

 

[swampfoxfan]

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One of Anderson counties finest, graduate of claxton elementary, can count to 10 without using fingers.

 

[JohnD13]

Going to Bama means a higher chance of getting processed. Look at how many kids they process each year. That is the only way they can sign a full class.

I still remember stories of before the 85 limit that Bear would sign well over a hundred and sign players he knew would never play for him just so other teams didn't get them....