‘23 CA QB Nicholaus Iamaleava (Tennessee)

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Orange_Crush said:
And yet my previous comment is still true. You haven't seen the contract, you're posting your assumptions about the contract based on what someone said ABOUT the contract, just like everyone else, and now you're bellyaching how annoyed you get when someone else does EXACTLY what you are doing.

For instance:

(1) You are assuming that the contract doesn't lock a recruit into a region in any form or fashion because the attorney said he'd never let his client accept financial "hooks" to *STAY* at a University. Yet all of us can see in the previous paragraph that the context seems to be "retaining" NIL rights after one or the other parties ends the contract. In other words, the attorney very well could have (I would add probably was) saying that he would never allow a client to sign a contract that signed over their NIL rights no matter what, because it would make his client too weak in the future to renegotiate a better deal for themselves, whether at the same university, or leaving for another.

(--) It's very easy to interpret that as though the contract may have induced the athlete to a region, with the unstated affect that it would induce them to a University, without ever mentioning the University. But the attorney would never let their client make themselves weak enough that they can't leave for better pastures if the opportunity arises. (The entire context seems to be that these contracts are actually inducing athletes to Universities, by the way. That's what it's all about. You're just forcing a very narrow view of quotes to claim otherwise.)

(2) You've argued the legal assumption that a contract with a regional marketing firm can't tie an athlete to a *region* while not mentioning Universities specifically at all, because a judge would "see through" some concept of inducement that isn't even an issue between the contractual parties, and is never even mentioned in the contract (per the article). You've imported this because of your assumptions about the NCAA's wishes, which isn't in the contract.

That's all well and good. Lots of us love a good debate. It's half the reason we're here. But then to posture like you just did. It makes you look like a terrible ass.
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I'm working preparing for a big hearing tomorrow at 11, however your comment is deserving of a thoughtful response, we will pick this back up at a later time. In the meantime, we got Nico! Yay!
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I'm working preparing for a big hearing tomorrow at 11, however your comment is deserving of a thoughtful response, we will pick this back up at a later time. In the meantime, we got Nico! Yay!
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Understood, and no big deal on my end.

My main points weren't necessarily to shoot holes in your argument. You may very well be right. That's the point. "...may very well..." We don't know. Nor do you. We're all reading snippets and making inferences. That's OK. But to posture up as though you are not doing just that, and everyone else is just ****-posting. Well, you look like an ass, for what it's worth.

That's all. No reason to pick it back up later, from my perspective. We got Nico and I know you and I are both ecstatic about that. Little else matters. Go Vols. And I appreciate your having taken the time to discuss with me and others.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
You know I never thought about that. But Spyre will actually protect these athletes, almost completely eliminating handlers. For the betterment of the sport.

Handlers were awful.
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These handlers could careless about these kids. All they are in it for is to make a dollar off of them from schools. Once they cant make any money they will shut these training thing down.
 
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volinbama256 said:
Wonder if some of the incentives are, with each elite (4* or higher) kid that can be confirmed to sign with us because of Nico, he gets a bonus... Maybe that is why he is committing early and making it known he's recruiting for TN? I'd believe just about anything right now in recruiting and NIL business...
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And each subsequent kid gets the same deal. And Nico, being that kid's upstream, gets a cut as well of each new deal below him.

We're building ourselves a pyramid scheme! Lfg!! 😅
 
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For the record these dudes aint fixing to do anythjng to get the University in trouble.U can gurantee multiple ppl have disected this NIL up n down and back again.We just got our asses outta hot water thier not gonna risk reprucussions.Have they found a loop hole or way around certain things never know but idc glad to see us ahead of the curve for once let everyone else play KetchUp 😜
 
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turnuptheVOLtage said:
I’m so very glad I was WRONG about our lack of NIL ability. Wasn’t doubting the fanbase/passion, more or less our “higher ups” ability to get it organized and move in the same direction. This is all really impressive and will continue to get bigger. Let’s go get a star WR and a couple DL now.
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Need a dominant D Lineman to wreak havoc in the backfield...I don't care about anything else at this point.
 
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TitanicVolz said:
For the record these dudes aint fixing to do anythjng to get the University in trouble.U can gurantee multiple ppl have disected this NIL up n down and back again.We just got our asses outta hot water thier not gonna risk reprucussions.Have they found a loop hole or way around certain things never know but idc glad to see us ahead of the curve for once let everyone else play KetchUp 😜
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Which is one reason I think we didn't go all-in with the deals etc for the 22 class. #1, we had the NCAA crap hanging over our heads and we couldn't afford to screw up. #2, I think we understood that we weren't going to be in play for the bigtime 22 players anyway, so we took time to digest all of the ins and outs of the system to be ready to hit the ground running for 23 and beyond. Based on the last month or so, I might have been right or just lucky in my assessment. Either way, we got Nico and the naysayers can all pound sand.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
I've screenshot and posted the Mandel article, I'm the only one who has. Mandel's the only person who has publicly said he has seen the contract. I don't think he's lying. He also quotes the lawyer who represented the athlete in the deal we all believe to be Nico-Spyre. That's the best source that is currently available, literally everything else is guesswork.
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Does Mandel say who showed him the contract?
 
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Volunteer08 said:
Need a dominant D Lineman to wreak havoc in the backfield...I don't care about anything else at this point.
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Between Pierce & Joseph in the last class, then Herring & maybe Burley in this one, we should be fine. This class needs to take advantage of the building momentum from Nico and snowball it into more highly coveted guys like Tate, Kasper, Akana, Strozier, Burley, Sanders, McVay, etc.
 
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peaygolf said:
I have heard several interesting "incentives" in regard to Nico's NIL deal. Not sure if they are 100% accurate, but if they are.....expect some booms down the road.....;)
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Hmm. “Down the road… as in down the HALL?! as in, his brother’s bedroom?!
 
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Pridedad said:
Pyramid style NIL deal. He gets bonuses off anything they earn!
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