California Lunacy Thread

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85SugarVol said:
Well the first question is whether it’s a problem or not.

You seem to be indicating that you believe forest management is a significant contributing factor here - but I didn’t want to assume.
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You'll have to look to the post to which I replied for that indication of whether it's a problem. My comment questions the politicization of land management as regards wildfires.
 
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StarRaider said:
(not sure how much of this is accurate)

State Farm wanted to raise rates in CA, state would not allow it.

State Farm pulls all policies in CA and "leaves the state"

75 percent of Pacific Palisades does not have fire insurance but will be able to claim from something called a state FAIR fund that has a solvency of about $200 mil

After that .... the remaining in-state insurance companies have to fund the rest of the claim.

Guess how gets screwed next

here is one side of the story
newsroom.statefarm.com

State Farm® in California: Understanding the issues

EspañolProudly serving Californians since 1928, State Farm (State Farm Mutual Automobile Insurance Company, State Farm General Insurance Company) is the leading auto and homeowners insurer in California. We help our customers protect what matters most and recover from the unexpected.For many...
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Back when Charlie Crist was running for Senate - State Farm asked the Department of Insurance here in Florida to approve some rate hikes as they were way upside down on their combined loss ratio. Absolutely hemorrhaging money. Old Charlie didn't want to be the guy that approved small rate increases to Florida's largest insurer when he was running for Senate - so SF was denied and subsequently left the housing insurance market here completely. Alot of those SF homeowners ended up in the state run, Citizens program which was intended to be an "insurer of last resort."

Politicians should stay out of the free market and people who live in disaster prone areas need to accept that there's a price to pay to live in areas that are prone to natural disasters.
 
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Shocking moment LA's Woke mayor Karen Bass Refuses to Apologise to distraught residents for catastrophic oversights on fire budget​



Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass was stunned into silence after being asked to apologise to residents for cutting the fire service's budget by millions.

Bass faced heavy criticism from Los Angelinos after she was absent on a trip to Ghana when the wildfires broke out in the city on Tuesday night, despite meteorologists warning that a 'recipe for fire' was on track to strike LA.

A litany of failures by LA city officials have also since been uncovered, as fire hydrants were found without any water and electricity to power cables was left on to fuel the flames, which have so far killed five people.


With thousands being forced to flee some of the city's ritziest enclaves as homes and businesses burn to the ground, Bass was asked by a Sky News reporter: 'Do you owe citizens an apology for being absent while their homes were burning?'

As the mayor remained stone-faced, the reporter continued: 'Do you regret cutting the fire department's budget by millions of dollars, Madam Mayor? Have you nothing to say today?'

Still without receiving any answer, the reporter asked once again: 'Have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today? Elon Musk says that you're utterly incompetent. Are you reconsidering your position?'

Despite the questions, Bass continued to remain completely silent for nearly a minute before walking away from the interviewer.

It comes as Los Angeles Times owner Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong blamed the mayor for cutting LA Fire Department's budget, reminding followers how 'competence matters'.







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He said in a tweet: 'Our hearts go out to those who have lost their homes and are seeking shelter. Fires in LA are sadly no surprise, yet the Mayor cut LA Fire Department’s budget by $23 Million.

'And reports of empty fire hydrants raise serious questions. Competence matters…'

For the 2023-2024 year, Los Angeles budgeted $837 Million for the Los Angeles Fire Department (LAFD), which was only 65% the size of the homeless budget of $1.3 Billion, Fox Business reports.

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LA Mayor Karen Bass refuses to apologise to distraught residents

Bass faced heavy criticism from Los Angelinos after she was absent on a trip to Ghana when the wildfires broke out in the city on Tuesday night.
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Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass suffered a second toe-curling gaffe shortly after arriving back in her fire-ravaged city from a trip to Ghana.

Speaking in a staccato voice, the 71 year-old Democrat appeared bewildered by her own notes at a press conference Wednesday, saying: 'Emergency information, resources and shelter is available. All of this can be found at URL.'

The gaffe came just hour after Bass stood silent and stared into the middle distance while refusing to answer an Irish reporter's questions for two full minutes after being out of the country while historic wildfires raged through her city.


Furious Los Angelenos, including A-listers like Sarah Michelle Geller have slammed LA officials, accusing them of failing to keep the city safe amid the historic wildfires.

Meanwhile actress and producer Sara Foster wrote on X: 'We pay the highest taxes in California. Our fire hydrants were empty. Our vegetation was overgrown, brush not cleared. Our reservoirs were emptied by our governor because tribal leaders wanted to save fish. Our fire department budget was cut by our mayor. But thank god drug addicts are getting their drug kits.

'[Mayor Bass, governor Newsom] RESIGN. Your far left policies have ruined our state. And also our party.'


Celebrity fitness trainer Jillian Michaels added: 'The mayor is apparently in Ghana... The fire departments budget was apparently cut by 17 mil. And someone made the decision to not refill some of the reservoirs - now some fire hydrants are dry. Leadership in California is beyond negligent. This is completely unacceptable.'

'Do you regret cutting the fire department by millions of dollars, Madam Mayor? Have you nothing to say today?'


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LA Mayor Karen Bass' astonishing meltdown during press conference

Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass appeared confused and struggled to provide updates abut the wildfires.
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Trump Calls For Gavin Newsom To Resign as LA's Raging Inferno shows no signs of slowing down​



Donald Trump has called for the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, to resign as Los Angeles' wildfires continue to rage, leaving neighborhoods in complete ruins.

It comes after Trump said Newsom, who he refers to as 'Gavin Newscum,' was at fault for the disaster, criticizing him for focusing on environmental policies over those of Golden State residents.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Trump calls for Gavin Newsom to resign as LA's inferno continues

In a new Truth Social post, the president-elect has called on Newsom to resign, reiterating his stance that the governor is 'at fault' for the disaster.
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EasternVol said:
You'll have to look to the post to which I replied for that indication of whether it's a problem. My comment questions the politicization of land management as regards wildfires.
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I don’t think it should be a politicization as much as it should be a review of policy.

If one believes land management (forest mismanagement) was a problem here, then I believe it is reasonable to ask what policy decisions led to the problem.

Politicians make policy decisions.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I don’t think it should be a politicization as much as it should be a review of policy.

If one believes land management (forest mismanagement) was a problem here, then I believe it is reasonable to ask what policy decisions led to the problem.

Politicians make policy decisions.
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You quite literally can't detach the two.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I don’t think it should be a politicization as much as it should be a review of policy.

If one believes land management (forest mismanagement) was a problem here, then I believe it is reasonable to ask what policy decisions led to the problem.

Politicians make policy decisions.
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The poster was politicizing it. That's the point. What about the contention that it's the fault of liberals?
 
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85SugarVol said:
I don’t think it should be a politicization as much as it should be a review of policy.

If one believes land management (forest mismanagement) was a problem here, then I believe it is reasonable to ask what policy decisions led to the problem.

Politicians make policy decisions.
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I can only imagine that controlled burns would be a nonstarter in cali.
 
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EasternVol said:
No.
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Nearly my entire job is dictated by policies that republicans put in place during their Congressional periods of control. Almost every decision made in my field is driven by those policies, even when it is outright stupid and counter to the mission.

Could this not be the case in a state where typical left-leaning interests are focused more on the extreme fringe of natural conservatism and environmentalism that may (have) damaged the ability for the state to effectively manage fires?

Again, I'd like to understand how it's possible to split government agency policy from the politicians (and, by extension, political ideologies) that literally make the frameworks if not dictate the outright policies themselves.
 
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what's going to happen in the aftermath. will Newsom allow people to rebuild on their own land? or will he have regime take over all land and set regulations on what can be built. I'm sure the leftist, nutjob, environmentalist are drooling at the prospect of taking over all those destroyed areas. those dems will not let this tragedy go to waste.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I didn't know the entire point of all this was just to criticize city governments. Well, there were criticisms of the limited resources locals had for response in there, too.

I don't even understand where we're at with your point. Do reverse 911 failures not count as failures? People died. Nothing to criticize there?
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I said the failures of the reverse 911 features counted, just not as an aspect of managing the fires.

we were talking about putting out fires and managing the fires themselves. getting people out safely is another thing entirely, at least to me.

As an architect my job isn't to keep a building from burning down via my design, my job is to make sure the people get out safely before the building burns down via my design. so I see those two things, managing the fire vs managing the people, as two separate items.

I haven't heard or made any critiques about LA getting people away from the fire. they, at least to this point, haven't failed that in my eyes. It sounds like Gatlinburg did fail in that. Happy?
 
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