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#51
#51
bleedorange1983 said:
How many college teams field 5 nba lottery picks the same year? His recruiting class was regarded as one if not the best ever. it is not asinie to say that he should have gone undefeated, he only lost three games and was the favorite to win every single one of them.
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So, the last team to go undefeated was in 1976 at Indiana, which was a team led by seniors. In 34 years it has not happened again, but you say its safe to assume that a team full of freshmen should have done it easily enough? If thats not asinine, I'm not sure what is.

Are you actually reading the stuff you write?
 
#53
#53
Hardwood_fanatic said:
So, the last team to go undefeated was in 1976 at Indiana, which was a team led by seniors. In 34 years it has not happened again, but you say its safe to assume that a team full of freshmen should have done it easily enough? If thats not asinine, I'm not sure what is. Are you actually reading the stuff you write?
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Iff there has been a team that could have or should have since 76, it was Kentucky's this past year. There is a reason the were so highly ranked preseason and picked by almost everybody to win the title.
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#54
#54
The 1-year on college rule is the biggest joke in sports. This rule basically makes a mockery of the college game. The kids that are leaving after their freshman year dont even go to class during the semester they are playing games in.....why would they???? They are planning on leaving school anyways. All that BS rule does is force kids into college that dont even want to be there, and it invites scandals like the OJ Mayo/USC debacle. If the NBA is going to have a rule, it should be a 3 year removed from high school rule just like football does. With the 1 year rule, all college basketball is, is a farm league for the NBA. Its a huge reason why college basketball in general is the most corrupt of the major sports, especially when ti comes to recruiting. Dishonest, used car salesmen like Calipari thrive because of this. I would be ashamed to have him as my head coach. It is only a matter of time till he leaves UK the same way he left UM and Memphis.....on probation.
 
#55
#55
bleedorange1983 said:
Iff there has been a team that could have or should have since 76, it was Kentucky's this past year. There is a reason the were so highly ranked preseason and picked by almost everybody to win the title.
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Stacy Augmen, Larry Johnson, Greg Anthoney with UNLV, SAm Perkins, James Worthy and MJ with UNC, Laettner, Hill, Hill and Hurley with Duke etc.

Those are off the top of my head. There have been some super talented teams over the years.
 
#56
#56
BuckeyeVols said:
The 1-year on college rule is the biggest joke in sports. This rule basically makes a mockery of the college game. The kids that are leaving after their freshman year dont even go to class during the semester they are playing games in.....why would they???? They are planning on leaving school anyways. All that BS rule does is force kids into college that dont even want to be there, and it invites scandals like the OJ Mayo/USC debacle. If the NBA is going to have a rule, it should be a 3 year removed from high school rule just like football does. With the 1 year rule, all college basketball is, is a farm league for the NBA. Its a huge reason why college basketball in general is the most corrupt of the major sports, especially when ti comes to recruiting. Dishonest, used car salesmen like Calipari thrive because of this. I would be ashamed to have him as my head coach. It is only a matter of time till he leaves UK the same way he left UM and Memphis.....on probation.
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MLB does it right. If you sign with a pro team out of high school, you go.

If you pass up the opportunity and enroll in college, you're draft eligible again at the age of 21.
 
#57
#57
justingroves said:
MLB does it right. If you sign with a pro team out of high school, you go.

If you pass up the opportunity and enroll in college, you're draft eligible again at the age of 21.
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I just hate seeing what it does to kids who think they've got what it takes, get the first paycheck, then find out they aren't ready. They phase out of the pro league in a couple years, lose their amateur status, and another great talent goes down the drain.
 
#58
#58
bleedorange1983 said:
Iff there has been a team that could have or should have since 76, it was Kentucky's this past year. There is a reason the were so highly ranked preseason and picked by almost everybody to win the title.
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Whatever you say chief. Enjoy living in your state of denial.
 
#61
#61
crusse10 said:
I just hate seeing what it does to kids who think they've got what it takes, get the first paycheck, then find out they aren't ready. They phase out of the pro league in a couple years, lose their amateur status, and another great talent goes down the drain.
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MLB will pick the tab up on a college tuition.
 
#62
#62
justingroves said:
MLB will pick the tab up on a college tuition.
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Oh I agree, I'm not saying they can't get the degree. I was just saying that the amount of talent they have can go down the drain if they get too much, too quickly. You can have a kid like Kwame Brown get drafted 1st on potential, but he's still a kid. Had his talent gotten honed for even 2 years, who knows how he could be now.
 
#63
#63
bleedorange1983 said:
Iff there has been a team that could have or should have since 76, it was Kentucky's this past year. There is a reason the were so highly ranked preseason and picked by almost everybody to win the title.
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I didn't think they would win the title simply because Cal is their coach.
 
#64
#64
JZVOL said:
Stacy Augmen, Larry Johnson, Greg Anthoney with UNLV, SAm Perkins, James Worthy and MJ with UNC, Laettner, Hill, Hill and Hurley with Duke etc.

Those are off the top of my head. There have been some super talented teams over the years.
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Phi Slama Jama got derailed by Jimmy V.

Fab Five reached two championship games as freshmen and shophomores.
 
#65
#65
crusse10 said:
I'll go on record and say Hopson's drafted after this past year if he was at UK.
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Surely you aren't really serious???? Hopson would not have been drafted regardless of where he played. He would not have started for KY last year.
 
#67
#67
crusse10 said:
He gives them the connections and a little bit of training to set them up for the draft.
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Do you really believe Wall needed him to give him connections? These kids would have been drafted without going to college. Cal gets credit for kids that would have been drafted if they never laid eyes on him. Give him credit for being a great recruiter of NBA level kids, but not for getting them into the NBA.
 
#68
#68
BasketvolsFan said:
Do you really believe Wall needed him to give him connections? These kids would have been drafted without going to college. Cal gets credit for kids that would have been drafted if they never laid eyes on him. Give him credit for being a great recruiter of NBA level kids, but not for getting them into the NBA.
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If Wall had just graduated HS last month and been eligible for the Draft, Evan Turner is #1 overall.
 
#69
#69
BasketvolsFan said:
:lolabove:

Surely you aren't really serious???? Hopson would not have been drafted regardless of where he played. He would not have started for KY last year.
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Had Cal coached him both years, his name would have been called last week. Many people sorta assumed Scotty would have been 1-Done. He wasn't. With Cal, though, he'd have been more ready this year than Daniel Orton.
 
#71
#71
UT IE 95 said:
Phi Slama Jama got derailed by Jimmy V.

Fab Five reached two championship games as freshmen and shophomores.
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Which is why calling last year's UK team the most talented since '76 or having the best chance of going undefeated is crazy.
 
#72
#72
With Cal as coach, it is truly shocking that they lost a game or didn't dominate the NCAA's on their way to the national championship.
 
#73
#73
Hardwood_fanatic said:
No offense, but that's asinine.

Talent does not equal guaranteed success. You show me the list with a plethora of coaches who have taken teams with 4 freshman starters to the final four OR go undefeated, and I will concede your point.

Was he outcoached, absolutely. Going around saying statements like "he should have been undefeated" is moronic, especially in todays college game.
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IMO, he's a phenomenal recruiter, barely AVERAGE coach and a generally sleazy dude. Perfect for today's big time college athletic programs.
 
#75
#75
BasketvolsFan said:
Yea, Cal would have turned into another Michael Jordan---you folks are dreaming.
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How "getting drafted" is equivalent to "Michael Jordan" is beyond me. All it would have taken was 1 team to take a shot at him. A kid coming from Kentucky with 2 years of experience and his athleticism gets drafted.
 
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