Cam Robinson/Hootie Jones arrested for Bama

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CobbVol said:
Williams for an extra 5 games related to the drugs.
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So, post dismissal, he sat out 14% of the season after a quarter ounce was found in his backpack.

On that track, Robinson and Jones should sit 2 games. I won't prorate it by the amount of weed.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
What about the stolen gun? Yeah, let's just forget about all that. LOL
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That charge was likely to get tossed anyway. There was never any indication that Cam stole the gun. If there had been, he'd have been charged with theft sometime in the past month.

Louisiana law has a carve out for situations where the individual conducted what he thought to be a legal purchase:

RS 14:69.1...

...(2) It shall be an affirmative defense to a prosecution for a violation of this Section that the offender had no knowledge that the firearm was the subject of any form of misappropriation.
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I'm assuming it was his gun, though that has not been confirmed.
 
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bamawriter said:
That charge was likely to get tossed anyway. There was never any indication that Cam stole the gun. If there had been, he'd have been charged with theft sometime in the past month.

Louisiana law has a carve out for situations where the individual conducted what he thought to be a legal purchase:



I'm assuming it was his gun, though that has not been confirmed.
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Just because the bama big wigs paid to get it all squashed, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
Now you're getting it. I knew you would eventually.
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You make a compelling case.

I no longer have any clue why the founding fathers bothered to put the 4th Amendment in the Bill of Rights. I mean, when is that situation ever going to come up? Amirite? You're with me, right?
 
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bamawriter said:
You make a compelling case.

I no longer have any clue why the founding fathers bothered to put the 4th Amendment in the Bill of Rights. I mean, when is that situation ever going to come up? Amirite? You're with me, right?
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Spin, Spin, Spin. Its like I'm at the fair on the tilt-a-whirl.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Forget competition.

I'm happy for the kid.

He didn't deserve to have his entire life messed up by one mistake.
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ho many free bes do you get? I mean you let this one slide, so its like it never happened. then the next time he does something its like he didn't anything before so he gets a free be for that second time too, right?
 
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bamawriter said:
You're no longer even able to keep up with your own conspiracy theory.
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Drugs and a stolen gun in a car were the facts, and you're defending the guys? I mean I get homerism, but you're going really far even for a Bammer. The fact they weren't charged is ridiculous and any past happenings in Knoxville don't change that.
 
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Probably_in_Class said:
Drugs and a stolen gun in a car were the facts, and you're defending the guys? I mean I get homerism, but you're going really far even for a Bammer. The fact they weren't charged is ridiculous and any past happenings in Knoxville don't change that.
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Dey have a furture main.
 
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Probably_in_Class said:
Drugs and a stolen gun in a car were the facts, and you're defending the guys? I mean I get homerism, but you're going really far even for a Bammer. The fact they weren't charged is ridiculous and any past happenings in Knoxville don't change that.
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A lack of probable cause is also a fact. Do you not give a crap about the 4th Amendment? I mean, I get bias against rivals, but that's pretty low. The fact that they weren't charged affects absolutely no one since it was a victimless crime.
 
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Us suspending those basketball players has got to be the most curious case in sports with what happened next. Smith and at least 1 other in the car were starters and the others played major minutes. We beat #1 Kansas without them and then later in the year beat #2 Kentucky (might have their ranks flipped). Is it too late to Bring Back Bruce?

I was front row student section for both of those games.
 
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bamawriter said:
A lack of probable cause is also a fact. Do you not give a crap about the 4th Amendment? I mean, I get bias against rivals, but that's pretty low. The fact that they weren't charged affects absolutely no one since it was a victimless crime.
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You're just ignoring the probable cause. Smell of weed(drugs), Gun on lap. There it is. Twist it any way you want, that search was justified. Finding the drugs and stolen gun was due to a legal search. Spin, Spin, Spin.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
You're just ignoring the probable cause. Smell of weed(drugs), Gun on lap. There it is. Twist it any way you want, that search was justified. Finding the drugs and stolen gun was due to a legal search. Spin, Spin, Spin.
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Correct. In Louisiana, smell of marijuana by a trained officer is probable cause. The 4th Amendment is indeed saved.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
You're just ignoring the probable cause. Smell of weed(drugs), Gun on lap. There it is. Twist it any way you want, that search was justified. Finding the drugs and stolen gun was due to a legal search. Spin, Spin, Spin.
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The gun on the lap is irrelevant, as the gun was legal, and was placed there for the sake of making it known to the officer.

So, the probable cause hinges on the "strong odor of marijuana". Again, the only weed that was found was half a gram, in a bag. You could be in a broom closet with that much weed and barely smell it. Neither of the backup up officers reported smelling any weed in their affidavits, and all 4 passengers reported that the initial officer made them get out of the car upon being notified of the gun in Hootie's lap.

So, you've got 1 cop's word against 4 suspects who said the something different, and 2 other cops who didn't back him up.

Arresting cop has a couple of other serious deficiencies in his arrest. He cuffed all four men, but let the two non-players go. This is despite the fact that he was trying to build a case for constructive possession, and releasing 50% of the possible possessors is all kinds of dumb. Second, in his incident report, the arresting officer says that the bag of weed was in plain view before he initiated the search. But in his affidavit, he said that he discovered the bag upon Robinson exiting the vehicle. Third, and perhaps most importantly, in his affidavit, the arresting officer says that one of the non-players told a backup officer that the stolen gun belonged to Robinson. However, the backup officer who actually spoke to the non-player quotes him as saying that he didn't know who the gun belonged to. So he arrested one guy and released the other two based on a statement that his colleague said didn't happen.

You can decide for yourself whether it's right or wrong, but the plain truth is that a good defense lawyer is getting that search tossed. I'm not accusing him of anything malicious, but the arresting officer made a ton of mistakes, and those mistakes were likely to result in the evidence getting tossed. The DA would have been wasting his time trying to pursue the charges.
 
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bamawriter said:
The gun on the lap is irrelevant, as the gun was legal, and was placed there for the sake of making it known to the officer.

So, the probable cause hinges on the "strong odor of marijuana". Again, the only weed that was found was half a gram, in a bag. You could be in a broom closet with that much weed and barely smell it. Neither of the backup up officers reported smelling any weed in their affidavits, and all 4 passengers reported that the initial officer made them get out of the car upon being notified of the gun in Hootie's lap.

So, you've got 1 cop's word against 4 suspects who said the something different, and 2 other cops who didn't back him up.

Arresting cop has a couple of other serious deficiencies in his arrest. He cuffed all four men, but let the two non-players go. This is despite the fact that he was trying to build a case for constructive possession, and releasing 50% of the possible possessors is all kinds of dumb. Second, in his incident report, the arresting officer says that the bag of weed was in plain view before he initiated the search. But in his affidavit, he said that he discovered the bag upon Robinson exiting the vehicle. Third, and perhaps most importantly, in his affidavit, the arresting officer says that one of the non-players told a backup officer that the stolen gun belonged to Robinson. However, the backup officer who actually spoke to the non-player quotes him as saying that he didn't know who the gun belonged to. So he arrested one guy and released the other two based on a statement that his colleague said didn't happen.

You can decide for yourself whether it's right or wrong, but the plain truth is that a good defense lawyer is getting that search tossed. I'm not accusing him of anything malicious, but the arresting officer made a ton of mistakes, and those mistakes were likely to result in the evidence getting tossed. The DA would have been wasting his time trying to pursue the charges.
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Gun on lap legal or not AND smell of weed is a probable search. Weed and Gun legal or not is a Felony. Spin, Spin, Spin.
 
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CrunchingTheVolz said:
Gun on lap legal or not AND smell of weed is a probable search. Weed and Gun legal or not is a Felony. Spin, Spin, Spin.
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Weed smell by itself is probable cause. Gun by itself is not. Combining the two does not mean anything. Either you have probable cause for the weed, or you don't have probable cause.
 
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