Can McCarthy survive as Speaker?

[Vol423]

You’ve yet to answer. What’s the realistic thing you thought they could actually get done

They should have eliminated all increases in IRS spending, and they should have reduced all other areas of discretionary spending.

 

[volfanhill]

I bought the book years ago. Good read.

Can you copy paste it here?

 

[Vol8188]

They should have eliminated all increases in IRS spending, and they should have reduced all other areas of discretionary spending.

Are you naming things you actually think could’ve been done or just your own personal wish list?

 

[85SugarVol]

Can you copy paste it here?

A+

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

Should be enough to recall his sorry ass.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Should be enough to recall his sorry ass.

Freedom Caucus tried to tell us.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Republicans. Taking food from poor people to fix the mess they got themselves in during Trump's term. And the rich get richer....

BS. Name one person. Need an address and contact information.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Hey, did something happen to the gun control thread?

 

[scooty_vol]

Republicans. Taking food from poor people to fix the mess they got themselves in during Trump's term. And the rich get richer....

Old and boring lie.

 

[scooty_vol]

Democrats only feign championing the poor.... They serve the same end as the Republicans. Quit kidding yourself.

Yeah, it's funny that he still believes this 80's era lie.

 

[NEO]

He could have told Biden to take the deal or default and 90 percent of Republican voters would have backed it.


Their fear is once the shut down happens and not a single working person is impacted the whole shell game is over for both sides.

 

[Vol8188]

Should be enough to recall his sorry ass.

Can you name a better deal that was struck over the debt ceiling?

Or tell me what your actual expectation was? Did you think we’d magically balance the budget or something?

 

[vols40]

He could have told Biden to take the deal or default and 90 percent of Republican voters would have backed it.


Their fear is once the shut down happens and not a single working person is impacted the whole shell game is over for both sides.

The sooner both sane segments of both parties realize this the sooner things will mysteriously just "get better"

 

[vols40]

Can you name a better deal that was struck over the debt ceiling?

Or tell me what your actual expectation was? Did you think we’d magically balance the budget or something?

How about WE ARE NO LONGER CONCERNED WITH COVID, WHY THE HE11 ARE WE FORCED TO SPEND THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AS WHEN WE WERE ONLY BECAUSE WE SPENT THAT AMOUNT LAST YEAR?

For starters

 

[Vol8188]

How about WE ARE NO LONGER CONCERNED WITH COVID, WHY THE HE11 ARE WE FORCED TO SPEND THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AS WHEN WE WERE ONLY BECAUSE WE SPENT THAT AMOUNT LAST YEAR?

For starters

Every year the budget stays roughly the same or at a minimum is less than inflation, is another year on the right track.

 

[vols40]

Every year the budget stays roughly the same or at a minimum is less than inflation, is another year on the right track.

Nice side step. I will put you in the category of we should keep spending to the tune of 2 trillion dollars more than the government brings in.

 

[Vol423]

Every year the budget stays roughly the same or at a minimum is less than inflation, is another year on the right track.

Wrong.

 

[Vol8188]

Nice side step. I will put you in the category of we should keep spending to the tune of 2 trillion dollars more than the government brings in.

Lol what we should be doing and what we could realistically get done right now are not the same thing.

 

[Vol8188]

Wrong.

Then you fail to understand economics.

 

[Vol423]

Then you fail to understand economics.

Thanks for the laugh.

 

[Vol8188]

Thanks for the laugh.

It’s simple: if spending remains constant, but inflation increases then relative spending goes down. If relative spending continues to trend down, eventually tax receipts will catch spending.

In 2022 inflation was 8.8%. In 2023 it’s on pace to be 6.5%.

You’re welcome for the free lesson.

Since you’re so upset with this deal, can you tell me when a better deal was struck? With trump we just raised the debt limit without requiring any cuts.

 

[Vol423]

It’s simple: if spending remains constant, but inflation increases then relative spending goes down. If relative spending continues to trend down, eventually tax receipts will catch spending.

In 2022 inflation was 8.8%. In 2023 it’s on pace to be 6.5%.

You’re welcome for the free lesson.

Since you’re so upset with this deal, can you tell me when a better deal was struck? With trump we just raised the debt limit without requiring any cuts.

Spending isn't remaining constant. You started off your fantasy land scenario with a lie. The national debt continues to increase (the cap was just raised). The interest rates on that national debt have increased CONSIDERABLY. Therefore, the increase in total spending (including interest on the national debt) will continue to significantly outpace the increase in revenues, and that's not even taking into account the fact that the federal government will end up spending more on the discretionary spending items than are currently being agreed upon (since there will be zero ramifications for doing so - no hard debt limit), and that we are likely going into a recession, which will whack federal revenues.

You're welcome for the free lesson.

 

[Vol8188]

WHY THE HE11 ARE WE FORCED TO SPEND THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AS WHEN WE WERE ONLY BECAUSE WE SPENT THAT AMOUNT LAST YEAR?

You’re literally the one who made the claim that the spending was the same. Now you’re calling that a “lie” and “fantasy land scenario”? If so, it would be your lie and your fantasy land scenario. Not mine.

The only “lesson” you seem to have provided me is that you’re a liar who lives in a fantasy land.

If you actually compare this to the nothing that was gained in previous debt limit “deals”, this one is far better. You can continue complaining about things no one expected to change if you wish, but you’re just yelling at the sky

Spending isn't remaining constant. You started off your fantasy land scenario with a lie. The national debt continues to increase (the cap was just raised). The interest rates on that national debt have increased CONSIDERABLY. Therefore, the increase in total spending (including interest on the national debt) will continue to significantly outpace the increase in revenues, and that's not even taking into account the fact that the federal government will end up spending more on the discretionary spending items than are currently being agreed upon (since there will be zero ramifications for doing so - no hard debt limit), and that we are likely going into a recession, which will whack federal revenues.

You're welcome for the free lesson.

 

[volinbham]

McCarthy can sleep easy now that LG has predicted his demise.

 

[Vol423]

You’re literally the one who made the claim that the spending was the same. Now you’re calling that a “lie” and “fantasy land scenario”? If so, it would be your lie and your fantasy land scenario. Not mine.

The only “lesson” you seem to have provided me is that you’re a liar who lives in a fantasy land.

If you actually compare this to the nothing that was gained in previous debt limit “deals”, this one is far better. You can continue complaining about things no one expected to change if you wish, but you’re just yelling at the sky

Well, aren't you the perceptive one? Perhaps next time you'll learn to recognize that there are multiple people posting in these threads. That post you're attributing to me was made by another poster. If you don't feel like a fool, you should.