Can the Republican Party recover?

[Grand Vol]

 

[1972 Grad]

Great putter.
I still have an old WS 8802 somewhere.

Everybody has one of those.

 

[Grand Vol]

Ben Crenshaw

Never mind, you figured it out.

 

[happy-go_vol]

Stop using that word, you couldn't articulate what Marxism is if you had a Wikipedia tab open.

Lol. Don't need to defend myself against a hack like you.

 

[C1500]

I would love to see the Republican Party redefine itself and evaluate its platform.

I know this kinda goes around your question, but I would love to see both parties tore apart. Trump's a donkey's rear end, but I liked him more then the others because he didn't fall down the party lines. Now I was hoping to see more out of him regarding policies that never fully developed. The R's and D's quit caring about any of us a long time ago. Times like we are in was the reason Thomas Jefferson thought the constitution should be rewritten every 19 years. The government has got to big for itself and believes itself to have more power then we are supposed to let it have. It was inevitable once the two party system started. I have read Washington's letters a few times and he said something along the lines of "every government has recognized political parties as an enemy and seeks to repress them because they look for more power than other groups and try to take revenge on political opponents". He also thought disagreements between political parties weakened the government.

I'm not going to say I could run a small store much less a country, but the faster we can move away from the D's and R's the better in my opinion.
Spoiler: Its never going to happen now.

John Adams said "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make a good use of it". I am afraid we have over many years been talked into voting ourselves blindly out of our freedoms little by little by people who don't deserve their position.

 

[happy-go_vol]

I know this kinda goes around your question, but I would love to see both parties tore apart. Trump's a donkey's rear end, but I liked him more then the others because he didn't fall down the party lines. Now I was hoping to see more out of him regarding policies that never fully developed. The R's and D's quit caring about any of us a long time ago. Times like we are in was the reason Thomas Jefferson thought the constitution should be rewritten every 19 years. The government has got to big for itself and believes itself to have more power then we are supposed to let it have. It was inevitable once the two party system started. I have read Washington's letters a few times and he said something along the lines of "every government has recognized political parties as an enemy and seeks to repress them because they look for more power than other groups and try to take revenge on political opponents". He also thought disagreements between political parties weakened the government.

I'm not going to say I could run a small store much less a country, but the faster we can move away from the D's and R's the better in my opinion.
Spoiler: Its never going to happen now.

John Adams said "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make a good use of it". I am afraid we have over many years been talked into voting ourselves blindly out of our freedoms little by little by people who don't deserve their position.

There has been socialists and marxist ideologies since then. The biggest defense against these 'isms' has always been christianity. Christianity and marxism have always fought.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The GOP needs to stop touting itself as the party of “family values”.

You know, I said that about 10 or 15 years ago. But within the last few years, I'm beginning to think America owes Dan Quayle a huge apology. It is like whoever is controlling us wants to destroy the traditional nuclear family and replace it with perversion. And I'm far from the most religious person out here or a Bible thumper. But there is a lot to be said about having strong traditional families. So many social and economic problems could be solved be going back to those values.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Deficit spending, borrowing, balanced budgets, more personal liberty.

You all had that in Ron Paul and called that man everything but a child of God.

How much different would things be if Ron Paul had gotten selected over McCain or Romney?

 

[Roustabout]

I know this kinda goes around your question, but I would love to see both parties tore apart. Trump's a donkey's rear end, but I liked him more then the others because he didn't fall down the party lines. Now I was hoping to see more out of him regarding policies that never fully developed. The R's and D's quit caring about any of us a long time ago. Times like we are in was the reason Thomas Jefferson thought the constitution should be rewritten every 19 years. The government has got to big for itself and believes itself to have more power then we are supposed to let it have. It was inevitable once the two party system started. I have read Washington's letters a few times and he said something along the lines of "every government has recognized political parties as an enemy and seeks to repress them because they look for more power than other groups and try to take revenge on political opponents". He also thought disagreements between political parties weakened the government.

I'm not going to say I could run a small store much less a country, but the faster we can move away from the D's and R's the better in my opinion.
Spoiler: Its never going to happen now.

John Adams said "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make a good use of it". I am afraid we have over many years been talked into voting ourselves blindly out of our freedoms little by little by people who don't deserve their position.

And yet you had more people in history rushing to vote for those two parties.

 

[GAVol]

You know, I said that about 10 or 15 years ago. But within the last few years, I'm beginning to think America owes Dan Quayle a huge apology. It is like whoever is controlling us wants to destroy the traditional nuclear family and replace it with perversion. And I'm far from the most religious person out here or a Bible thumper. But there is a lot to be said about having strong traditional families. So many social and economic problems could be solved be going back to those values.

I think the problem is that we evangelicals have done a poor job of articulating the point. We can tout family values without condemning people and patting ourselves on the back. The superiority turns people off every single time.

 

[jvol1]

Trump and the q movement represent a radical departure (and failing) of the right in this country. I have a feeling biden will probably embrace all of the wrong policies and further unbalance the country financially. To me it's a question of how to identify the behind the scenes influencers causing this who dont seem to have country's best interest in mind and move them to the side.

 

[1972 Grad]

You know, I said that about 10 or 15 years ago. But within the last few years, I'm beginning to think America owes Dan Quayle a huge apology. It is like whoever is controlling us wants to destroy the traditional nuclear family and replace it with perversion. And I'm far from the most religious person out here or a Bible thumper. But there is a lot to be said about having strong traditional families. So many social and economic problems could be solved be going back to those values.

So true. Obeying my parents and staying out of trouble were non-negotiable items when I grew up. As the twig is bent, the tree is inclined.

 

[Grand Vol]

Trump and the q movement represent a radical departure (and failing) of the right in this country. I have a feeling biden will probably embrace all of the wrong policies and further unbalance the country financially. To me it's a question of how to identify the behind the scenes influencers causing this who dont seem to have country's best interest in mind and move them to the side.

Is this Q thing really a "movement" or yet one more thing overhyped by an idiot media?

 

[MG1968]

You know, I said that about 10 or 15 years ago. But within the last few years, I'm beginning to think America owes Dan Quayle a huge apology. It is like whoever is controlling us wants to destroy the traditional nuclear family and replace it with perversion. And I'm far from the most religious person out here or a Bible thumper. But there is a lot to be said about having strong traditional families. So many social and economic problems could be solved be going back to those values.

I’m all for preserving and extolling the virtues of the nuclear family. What I don’t like is to hear a politician talk about how great it is only to find out he, or she, is an abusive alcoholic with several side pieces.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I think the problem is that we evangelicals have done a poor job of articulating the point. We can tout family values without condemning people and patting ourselves on the back. The superiority turns people off every single time.

Is it not possible that you can have a standard for yourself while recognizing that in a free society that others get to do the same? I’m always amazed at the stupidity of those who condemn evangelicals for the way they vote. If that was the standard evangelicals were required to vote by then they would not get to vote.

 

[tim]

I’m all for preserving and extolling the virtues of the nuclear family. What I don’t like is to hear a politician talk about how great it is only to find out he, or she, is an abusive alcoholic with several side pieces.

And when Pence walks the walk the libs hate that too.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Give me an R who actually is fiscally conservative and not batsh!t crazy on social issues, and I actually would vote R. Until then, I'm most likely continuing voting libertarian.

 

[volfanhill]

This unhinged rhetoric is why the Rs are losing ground.

Losing ground? They picked up more house seats and will retain control of the senate. That’s not losing ground. The left beat Trump. Not the GOP. If I were a Dem I would be extremely worried about continued support of BLM and defund the police rhetoric. It was obviously soundly rejected by the masses.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Correction. Trump hijacked and subsequently destroyed the Republican Party.

You say that like it was a, bad thing.

 

[Vol737]

Losing ground? They picked up more house seats and will retain control of the senate. That’s not losing ground. The left beat Trump. Not the GOP. If I were a Dem I would be extremely worried about continued support of BLM and defund the police rhetoric. It was obviously soundly rejected by the masses.

And there’s several races (8?) still not called that Republicans lead in all of them. Would close the gap significantly in the house when all said and done.

 

[volfanhill]

And there’s several races (8?) still not called that Republicans lead in all of them. Would close the gap significantly in the house when all said and done.

It’s really surprising to me that the Dem supporters on here haven’t paused to ask what the hell is going on? How often does a party kick a sitting POTUS out of office but make no gains in the Senate and lose ground in the House. That should scare the crap out of them. It’s not that liberal policies are suddenly being embraced. It’s that enough people are over Trump that he got bounced.

 

[evillawyer]

Although conservative, I haven’t voted Republican in a presidential election in over 12 years. I’ve been dissatisfied with the direction of the party and based on this last election, I could see things going down pretty fast. Looking back, the idea that a guy like Trump could even be seriously considered, much less win, was beyond reason for me.

While I believed Trump would shake up the party, I didn’t know if it would for better or worse. Four years later and the swamp isn’t drained. Trump galvanized a particular base, and quite frankly, those people scare me as much as the most radical liberal. After his tenure, I see a country more divided, more misinformed, and more hostile towards one another. Trump was polarizing and brought out the worst on both sides.

I would love to see the Republican Party redefine itself and evaluate its platform.

What are the main areas and issues that you see needing a rethink for the GOP to avoid its demise?

Drop the racism and move to a socially moderate, fiscally conservative position. Give up on gay marriage. That ship has sailed. Stop trying to overturn Roe v. Wade. If you succeed, you won't like the consequences. Stop relishing in the cruelty you can cause others.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Gerrymandering

Lol

 

[Roustabout]

Drop the racism and move to a socially moderate, fiscally conservative position. Give up on gay marriage. That ship has sailed. Stop trying to overturn Roe v. Wade. If you succeed, you won't like the consequences. Stop relishing in the cruelty you can cause others.

I agree on Gay marriage:
What do you mean by “drop the racism?”

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Drop the racism and move to a socially moderate, fiscally conservative position. Give up on gay marriage. That ship has sailed. Stop trying to overturn Roe v. Wade. If you succeed, you won't like the consequences. Stop relishing in the cruelty you can cause others.

The “racism” is a made up narrative by the Dems that is promoted by their comrades in the media. Opposing open borders is not racism. But pushing for unfettered abortions does seem racist when it’s occurring disproportionately in the black communities.