Canada's Truck Convoy to Protest Mandate

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Really? The Chinese lost the PR battle during Tiananmen Square. Did that matter to them?
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I explained this to Iranian friends during the termed 'Arab Spring'. They opined that protesting Iranians perhaps didn't even need weapons to force liberalization. And while explaining what a shite-heel Gandhi actually was when stating Jews should offer their necks to the Nazis, indulgently equating it with his protest to British colonials.
 
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walkenvol said:
I don’t understand the support of blocking roadways. Fully support their right to protest and think their requests are reasonable. Go circle your trucks around government buildings or the places where the politicians live who have the power to change the rules. Why the desire to interrupt the lives of people who you don’t oppose?
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They should keep at least 1 lane in every direction open. I'll agree to that.
 
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hog88 said:
Hours at a time? Come on man, they had sections of several cities shut down for days on end, not to mention the time shut down to clean up and rebuild.
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and @luthervol

Didn't you hear? Citizens defending their rights against abuse - which Luth claim to agree, is abuse - can do it in a field and/or only for a few hours at a time along routes government authorizes. But they can't cause "harm" (defined as a paltry handful of millions in commerce relative to lockdown/mandate costs) or inconvenience.

Unless aligned with anti-republic, anti-constitutional, anti-Western Marxist and anarchic elements BLM and Antifa parading in blackface concern.

Is it just me or would Western civilization have never emerged from the shadow of authoritarians and monarchists by following this advice? And won't appealing to cows in a field and knuckling under to forcible conversion, encourage their continued growth and abuse? Yes, I think it does just that.
 
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walkenvol said:
I don’t understand the support of blocking roadways. Fully support their right to protest and think their requests are reasonable. Go circle your trucks around government buildings or the places where the politicians live who have the power to change the rules. Why the desire to interrupt the lives of people who you don’t oppose?
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Leverage. Who cares if trucks rattle politicians' homes. Most government buildings are center city and encircling would have the same effect as now. Stopping truck commerce will have the effect in short order of no one having goods to sell and no one having jobs to go to anyway. Isn't this warning shot preferable? I think so.

And logistics. Convoys of thousands or 10/1000s of trucks are simply going to snarl roads wherever they go.
 
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VolinWayne said:
Unbelievable how far they have fallen

Canada Police to Send Names of Trucker Protesters to Financial Institutions
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Canadian banks will receive the names of people involved in “Freedom Convoy” protests that have descended on the nation’s capital, a first step in a promised financial crackdown on demonstrators being instituted by the far-left government of Justin Trudeau.

Bloomberg reports the Canadian Bankers Association confirmed the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) has alerted banks to a list of names and made it available.

Under the Emergencies Act invoked by this week by Trudeau, law enforcement officials have the ability to arrest people for obstruction of roadways and disruptive behaviour within a no-go exclusion zone. They also have the power to seize vehicles and freeze the same bank accounts.

Canada Police to Send Names of Trucker Protesters to Financial Institutions
 
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hog88 said:
That 98% is the protestors, not the protests.

The BLM protests from May 26 to August 22, 2020 averaged 6 violent protests per day And did almost 2 billion dollars worth of damage.
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True - I should have said I was talking more about the 93%.
You need to refresh everyone's memory on what was classified as "violent". I believe it was one arrest, or one instance of vandalism, or etc... By that definition, 100% of the truckers protest would be classified as violent.
 
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NCFisher said:
and @luthervol

Didn't you hear? Citizens defending their rights against abuse - which Luth claim to agree, is abuse - can do it in a field and/or only for a few hours at a time along routes government authorizes. But they can't cause "harm" (defined as a paltry handful of millions in commerce relative to lockdown/mandate costs) or inconvenience.

Unless aligned with anti-republic, anti-constitutional, anti-Western Marxist and anarchic elements BLM and Antifa parading in blackface concern.

Is it just me or would Western civilization have never emerged from the shadow of authoritarians and monarchists by following this advice? And won't appealing to cows in a field and knuckling under to forcible conversion, encourage their continued growth and abuse? Yes, I think it does just that.
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That may be the dumbest post I have ever read.
 
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NCFisher said:
I answered that in a response to your other question.

When government slips it's chain, any amount is justifiable to return it to the leash. I consider the convoy protests a disproportionately measured response to fascist leaders who portrays them as racists and Nazis while emulating Goebbels, using industry as government extension of police and military to coerce them. Classic fasces, heartily encouraged by Biden.

If talk fixed government overreach, it already would have. Overreach you say is wrong, but then proclaim they should protest in a field because it "harms'. Government abuse harms and equivocating encourages more of it. Stop fence-straddling and stake out a principled position.
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lol.......I can guarantee you that no one enjoys what you have to say as much as you do.
You are so fixated on your response that you are clueless about that to which you are responding.
I'm the one showing the similarities between BLM protests and the truckers protests.
The clueless fence sitters are the ones who view one as substantially different or more justifiable than the other. (which would be most every poster in this thread)
 
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85SugarVol said:
Yes.

In the 98% analysis one peaceful protest of 25 high school kids in Buckhead counts the same as a massive protest in Portland that turns riotous.
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They may not have even counted ones in Portland as riots. The city is so hideous and in such filthy, disgusting condition that they wouldn't be able to tell if rioters actually passed through.
 
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KB5252 said:
If you bend the knee and are supportive and "hands off" during one protest, be consistent, be as willing to listen...... That's all they all ask, be consistent...... which they are reluctant to do.

And therin lies the problem for many if not most here.
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I don't see how they were treated that differently. Hell, they've allowed it to go on for weeks now. I saw far more police push back at the BLM protests. When protestors walked out on I-75/85 in Atlanta, they were almost immediately forced off by the police.
 
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utvolpj said:
Ah yes, the right to peaceful protest that doesn't inconvenience anyone. That's how things really get done!
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My post read within the context of the post to which I was responding has a little different take. But I should have known better, after all, attacking a luther post is sport.
 
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luthervol said:
I don't see how they were treated that differently. Hell, they've allowed it to go on for weeks now. I saw far more police push back at the BLM protests. When protestors walked out on I-75/85 in Atlanta, they were almost immediately forced off by the police.
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This is specifically about Canada.

The attitude and support shown by the government is night and day. From the get go they were labelled domestic terrorists and white supremacists by Trudeau and virtually all high ranking government officials. If you don't see the difference in attitude/treatment it's wilfull and there's nothing really left to say.
 
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