Canada's Truck Convoy to Protest Mandate

[85SugarVol]

Sure they can. That doesn't mean those truckers aren't actively harming businesses with their blockade.

Of course. That’s why I agreed with you in the very sentence.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

You’re a PayPal expert?

Just for you, sir. I guess I'm an SME on PayPal and these other platforms afterall... Or, I just realize the wicked world that we live in.

Ontario Premier Orders GiveSendGo To Freeze Funds For Anti-Mandate Protesters | ZeroHedge

Less than a week after GoFundMe, at the behest of the Mayor of Ottawa and Justin Trudeau, summarily closed their fundraiser which had exceeded $10 million, Ontario's Premier, Doug Ford, has issued an order that essentially freezes any funds that have been raised thus far from the alternate crowdsourcing site 'GiveSendGo'.

 

[85SugarVol]

Seems like a ishy move by the truckers. Those businesses didn't make a mandate, but they're the ones paying a price and now the position is, "well if you'd just agree with them it would be okay."

There were black owned businesses that hung signs in favor of BLM. Still got burned to the ground.

Would you view that as an ishy move as well?

 

[85SugarVol]

Just for you, sir. I guess I'm an SME on PayPal and these other platforms afterall... Or, I just realize the wicked world that we live in.

Ontario Premier Orders GiveSendGo To Freeze Funds For Anti-Mandate Protesters | ZeroHedge

On what grounds? How does a Canadian MP tell a US Business what to do?

 

[C-south]

Sure they can. That doesn't mean those truckers aren't actively harming businesses with their blockade.

Or maybe the government is harming businesses with asinine mandates. They were heroes for two years now all of a sudden that can’t work without a worthless shot.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

On what grounds? How does a Canadian MP tell a US Business what to do?

It doesn't matter. If he can't do it, either Trudeau or Biden will figure out a way to do it. I'm surprised it got this far.

 

[MG1968]

Seems like a ishy move by the truckers. Those businesses didn't make a mandate, but they're the ones paying a price and now the position is, "well if you'd just agree with them it would be okay."

Isn’t that exactly the kind of pressure BLM sought to bring down on people who were on the fence about their cause?

 

[clarksvol00]

Of course. That’s why I agreed with you in the very sentence.

I get it. I guess what I'm trying to get at is your question about the Canadian government being able to stop this. The truckers are the ones who are ticked off about a policy and blockading a downtown and border crossings. They are actively hurting innocent people, while the government's role in this is more passive.

 

[clarksvol00]

There were black owned businesses that hung signs in favor of BLM. Still got burned to the ground.

Would you view that as an ishy move as well?

I would and I've said so before. I understand that the go-to assumption is if you criticize these guys, you must be an antifa-sympathizer, but it's not the case.

 

[clarksvol00]

Isn’t that exactly the kind of pressure BLM sought to bring down on people who were on the fence about their cause?

It is and it wasn't right when they looted a store or shut down and downtown.

 

[clarksvol00]

Or maybe the government is harming businesses with asinine mandates. They were heroes for two years now all of a sudden that can’t work without a worthless shot.

Yay! Smart Guy is here. See my earlier post to Sugarvol for an answer though.

 

[midnight orange]

A single confederate flag appears directly in from of one of Tredeau’s personal photographers in order to be captured on film. And as far as I now, none have been spotted since. Nothing suspicious there AT ALL

He is similar to the politicians we have. The one uniting quality they process is their utter mediocrity. I was awaken to this truth during the vaudeville of the Affordable Healthcare Act. Their only play was to claim that republicans were shouting racist slurs as the democrats walked into the capital for the vote. This could not be proven on the video of the event. If these sociopaths had an ounce of intelligence the smart move have would have been to rent a false flag mob in bedsheets. The fact that they didn’t shows me that while they are scociopaths, they’re just not very bright sociopaths.

 

[85SugarVol]

I get it. I guess what I'm trying to get at is your question about the Canadian government being able to stop this. The truckers are the ones who are ticked off about a policy and blockading a downtown and border crossings. They are actively hurting innocent people, while the government's role in this is more passive.

Yes. The truckers are there because they currently choose to be.

The only thing I was pointing out is that local US governments were powerless or unwilling to stop blm damage.
The Canadian government has a good deal of power to negotiate an end to this blockade.

 

[clarksvol00]

Yes. The truckers are there because they currently choose to be.

The only thing I was pointing out is that local US governments were powerless or unwilling to stop blm damage.
The Canadian government has a good deal of power to negotiate an end to this blockade.

I understand this will be kind of simplistic, but at what point do you say "we're not going to negotiate national policy with you," to every jackwagon who stops in the middle of the street and pulls the emergency brake?

Edit: did I just date myself by admitting I'm used to vehicles where you actually have to pull the emergency brake?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

"Slash The Tires, Arrest The Drivers": Harvard Professor And CNN Analyst Calls For Violence Against Freedom Convoy | ZeroHedge

 

[clarksvol00]

"Slash The Tires, Arrest The Drivers": Harvard Professor And CNN Analyst Calls For Violence Against Freedom Convoy | ZeroHedge

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I don't have a problem with arresting the drivers. Civil disobedience means peacefully violating the law and peacefully accepting the consequences as a show of resolve. Tow the trucks or drive them away. Slashing the tires and emptying the gas tanks seems counterproductive.

 

[85SugarVol]

I would and I've said so before. I understand that the go-to assumption is if you criticize these guys, you must be an antifa-sympathizer, but it's not the case.

Nice. Wasn’t even talking about Antifa.

 

[clarksvol00]

Nice. Wasn’t even talking about Antifa.

I'm using antifa as a catch-all. Any looters, rioters, arsonist. I'm sorry if that bothers you. I'm tired of having to say I don't approve of harming innocent parties with political protests. I've probably said it on VN 50 times and I still get the same dumbshizz question constantly. I've answered the same question at least 4 times today at this point.

 

[clarksvol00]

HEY VN:

THIS IS MY STATEMENT THAT I DON'T CARE WHAT CAUSE YOU SUPPORT, BLM, ANTIFA, CANADIAN ANTI-VAX TRUCKERS, PETA, Q-ANON, STOLEN ELECTION, WHATEVER.

I DON'T SUPPORT RIOTING. I DON'T SUPPORT LOOTING. I DON'T SUPPORT ARSON. I DON'T SUPPORT BLOCKADING BUSINESSES. I DON'T SUPPORT HARMING OTHERS FOR YOUR DAMN PROTEST.

I said it again. Please stop asking me.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

"Slash The Tires, Arrest The Drivers": Harvard Professor And CNN Analyst Calls For Violence Against Freedom Convoy | ZeroHedge

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Slash the tires, empty the gas tanks.
So make them 15 ton road blocks and way more of a pain in the ass to move than they currently are?
Are we sure these aren't NPC's?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

A Christmas story to tell the kiddies...

Taibbi: Justin Trudeau's Ceauşescu Moment | ZeroHedge

On the morning of the 21st of December, 1989, Romanian General Secretary Nicolae Ceaușescu was in a foul mood. The Berlin Wall had fallen, and Mikhail Gorbachev and George H.W. Bush had recently announced the end of the Cold War, making the end of Ceaușescu’s rule inevitable, though he couldn’t see this yet. Worse, his security leaders had just failed to violently put down protests in the city of Timisoara, a fact that enraged his wife Elena.

“You should have fired on them, and had they fallen, you should have taken them and shoved them into a cellar,” she said. “Weren’t you told that?”

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Paul Kenyon’s Children of the Night describes the morbid black comedy that ensued. The Ceaușescus and a motley gang of undead apparatchiks that included the “morbidly obese Prime Minister, Emil Bobu” later tried to load into a single helicopter — Bobu “waddled, walrus-like, to the rear” Kenyon writes — but there were too many of them, and the copter barely got off the ground. “Where to?” asked the pilot, and nobody knew, because there was no plan, since none of them had ever considered the possibility of this happening.

The sky was full of stuff, including other helicopters, which were dropping leaflets on the crowd giving what Kenyon described as a Marie Antoinette-like order to ignore “imperialist conspiracies” and return home “to a Christmas feast.” Four days later, a firing squad put the Ceaușescus against a wall and gave them their final, solid lead Christmas presents.

 

[85SugarVol]

I'm using antifa as a catch-all. Any looters, rioters, arsonist. I'm sorry if that bothers you. I'm tired of having to say I don't approve of harming innocent parties with political protests. I've probably said it on VN 50 times and I still get the same dumbshizz question constantly. I've answered the same question at least 4 times today at this point.

You’re sorry I’m bothered? Do I sound bothered? I’m not bothered, but thank you.

Are you ok? You do seem bothered.

 

[1vol8]

You guys were all for mowing down BLM protesters who blocked roadways. Cheering when states made it a crime, but now somehow it's different. I can only see one major difference.

Yeah. That major difference is the fact that violence was being met with violence. Very different from what’s going on in Canada. Haven’t seen the first murder or building burning there. Not one person pulled from their car. As much as you lefties want to make it a black/white issue, you fail miserably

 

[Pacer92]

I don't have a problem with arresting the drivers. Civil disobedience means peacefully violating the law and peacefully accepting the consequences as a show of resolve. Tow the trucks or drive them away. Slashing the tires and emptying the gas tanks seems counterproductive.

How about setting down at a table...actually listening to the people of Canada?

This is only going to fan the flames..

 

[McDad]

I've seen people on other social media sites call the truckers the "Flu trux klan" ...which is hysterical.