Canada's Truck Convoy to Protest Mandate

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hog88 said:
Sure it does. If I'm paying you I have the right to tell you what to do, you don't have the right to tell me what to do. Hence I have superior rights than you.
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Being vaccinated or not should have no effect on the way anyone performs their job duties. Therfore it's wrong for businesses to try and force it.

Just like it's wrong to tell employees they can't smoke cigarettes when they are not at work.
hog88 said:
I agree that it is wrong for an employer to mandate vaccinations but I support an employers right to do so.
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What other health decisions would you be okay with them making?
 
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hog88 said:
That would not be a mandate but if you tell me I can't jump off the bridge that is a mandate. DeSantis told private businesses "they can't".
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Good for him. Businesses should not be requiring anyone to get these shots.

By the way. The government tells people what to do every day. This is nothing new.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Being vaccinated or not should have no effect on the way anyone performs their job duties. Therfore it's wrong for businesses to try and force it.

Just like it's wrong to tell employees they can't smoke cigarettes when they are not at work.

What other health decisions would you be okay with them making?
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Again with the dumbass "okay" question.

I support the employers right to set any condition of employment they choose. I probably wouldn't be in agreement (okay with) with hardly any of them.
 
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hog88 said:
Again with the dumbass "okay" question.

I support the employers right to set any condition of employment they choose. I probably wouldn't be in agreement (okay with) with hardly any of them.
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Then you should be against them making those rules.

Would you like it if a restaurant owner told the health department to get out? No you wouldn't. You would want that government entity to come in to ensure they were following the proper rules and procedures.
 
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DonjoVol said:
Then you should be against them making those rules.

Would you like it if a restaurant owner told the health department to get out? No you wouldn't. You would want that government entity to come in to ensure they were following the proper rules and procedures.
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I am against employers making employees get vaccinated. I'm also against barring employers from being able to make employees get vaccinated.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
No, mandate means to force someone to do something. Tell someone they can not force someone to do something is the absolute opposite of a mandate.
If I tell my son he has to take the trash out, that is a mandate. If I tell him later that I no longer require it but it is voluntary, the mandate has been removed.
The lengths some people go to to warp language to meet their political stance never ceases to amaze me.
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Except that doesnt apply to either circumstance.

He mandated NO masks at all. Even if a person wanted to wear it.

He mandated no business mandates, even if they continue to employ unvaxxed. He didnt give businesses a choice. He told them what to do.

Both are mandates. Neither are voluntary. Heck I even agree with the business one, but that doesnt make it any less of a mandate.
 
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LouderVol said:
Except that doesnt apply to either circumstance.

He mandated NO masks at all. Even if a person wanted to wear it.

He mandated no business mandates, even if they continue to employ unvaxxed. He didnt give businesses a choice. He told them what to do.

Both are mandates. Neither are voluntary. Heck I even agree with the business one, but that doesnt make it any less of a mandate.
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Can you please link a reference to where he mandated no masks at all? I must have missed that one.
 
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https://theconservativetreehouse.co...ith-arrest-100k-fines-and-license-revocation/

"Comrades, Ontario Premier Doug Ford held a press conference this afternoon to announce he has declared a ‘state of emergency‘ and intends to issue orders against dissident truckers authorizing the police to place them under arrest, initiate fines up to $100k each individual, and revoke the personal and commercial licenses of anyone who doesn’t comply. The rebellion must be quashed, before the citizens start to think they have power.
As a typical DeceptiCon, Premier Ford begins his justification with the feels, and then gets to down to the business of calling the Freedom Protest in Ottawa an illegal occupation. Ford emphasized that workers are not permitted to challenge government. In essence, all your paychecks are belong to us – and you have no right to disrupt economic activity controlled by government.
Referencing the growing cross border blockades and looking/sounding like a corrupt union boss from the 1950’s, Comrade Premier Ford reminded the Canadian citizens that only government is permitted to destroy livelihoods, collapse businesses and create economic pain. The people in/around Ontario are not allowed to disrupt or influence the provincial economic activity; picking winners and losers is exclusively the role of government. "
 
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Velo Vol said:
He's certainly not the only one.

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You're not entirely wrong, BUT if you want me to link you videos of BLM riots dragging people out of cars, beating their windows, shooting them, and threatening to hurt them I will. Then you can send me the same for the Canadian truckers....good luck. It's almost like when you act with any kind of integrity and tact rational people are more likely to side with you.
 
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Caculator said:
"Comrades, Ontario Premier Doug Ford held a press conference this afternoon to announce he has declared a ‘state of emergency‘ and intends to issue orders against dissident truckers authorizing the police to place them under arrest, initiate fines up to $100k each individual, and revoke the personal and commercial licenses of anyone who doesn’t comply. The rebellion must be quashed, before the citizens start to think they have power.
As a typical DeceptiCon, Premier Ford begins his justification with the feels, and then gets to down to the business of calling the Freedom Protest in Ottawa an illegal occupation. Ford emphasized that workers are not permitted to challenge government. In essence, all your paychecks are belong to us – and you have no right to disrupt economic activity controlled by government.
Referencing the growing cross border blockades and looking/sounding like a corrupt union boss from the 1950’s, Comrade Premier Ford reminded the Canadian citizens that only government is permitted to destroy livelihoods, collapse businesses and create economic pain. The people in/around Ontario are not allowed to disrupt or influence the provincial economic activity; picking winners and losers is exclusively the role of government. "
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Very similar strategy to CCP crackdown on Hong Kong last year which the West just sat around and watched happen with hardly a murmur. Canada was apparently taking notes
 
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