Candace Parker left off team USA for Rio olympics

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HEY it is very obvious to me there is a problem and it my be personal. No one including CP is saying anything. So maybe its better we don't know however at some point I believe we will find out why. Lets not pass blame on anybody. The committee isn't stupid and either are the coaches but there is something going on that we don't know about and they do so lets just wait and not speculate for the good sake of everybody.
 
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linkster said:
It is different. USAB has stated as FACT that the team is selected by the committee. Sure, the coach has input. I'm sure he explains his wishes to the committee but it's clear that in the end THEY vote for the team. Why else do they exist? The men don't use a committee so it's the coach and Jerry. If Geno had the final say they wouldn't need a committee vote, but they do have a committee. You are just speculating. In your mind it HAS to be Geno. Now if you or anyone can come up with one fact to support your opinion I'd consider it but every article and source I have seen says that the team is picked by the committee so unless Geno has video of them in chicken costumes performing lewd acts I have to assume that it was their decision to leave Parker off the team. Of course none of them have ties to UConn so you can't base it on hate or vindictiveness and would have to consider the horrible possibility that there's something about Parker beyond her massive talent that made them do what they did.
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Due somewhat to fan loyalties, we're at an impasse and we will remain there until there is an explanation given. This was a bizarre decision and the optics of it are not good for USA basketball or for Geno Auriemma. Someone needs to take ownership of the decision to leave Candace Parker off the team and provide the rationale behind it. This warrants accountability. You're of a mind to give Geno the benefit of the doubt and I'm not and apparently neither are many other people unaffiliated with Tennessee including Tina Thompson and even the Australian coach.

At the least, it has to be acknowledged that every UConn player who had a case to be on the team - is on the team while one of the 5 best players in the world (a former UConn rival) is not. Once again - the optics are bad. The USA Olympic team should represent the best of the USA first and foremost... not the best of the UConn alumni association.
 
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Geno is a putz--and he'll always be a putz. He's notorious for jamming as many UConn players as he can on the national team--he's done it before. I'm shocked that he's the coach again, since he's already coached the WNT team, what twice before? More? The job should have been given to somebody else in the first place. Parker is the most talented all-around player of them all! Who combines her size and skill set? Nobody! And Sue Bird? How old is she now--40? She's been on the WNT, what, six times? Eight times? More? Are you telling me that there's not another deserving guard in America who could play in place of a woman who been on the team every competition for about 20 years? That's BS
 
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you could have stopped after the first sentence, Armchair. the rest is just piling on....

not that there's anything wrong with smacking gee no some more. He deserves it!
 
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tonyc said:
HEY it is very obvious to me there is a problem and it my be personal. No one including CP is saying anything. So maybe its better we don't know however at some point I believe we will find out why. Lets not pass blame on anybody. The committee isn't stupid and either are the coaches but there is something going on that we don't know about and they do so lets just wait and not speculate for the good sake of everybody.
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Actually she is, her exact words:

"I was surprised & disappointed to be left off the 2016 USA Olympic Team."

Her own facebook.
 
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I'm convinced this jerk of a coach who calls himself Geno has the blessings of those in high places to do as he chooses. When Kelley Hardwick accused him of sexual harassment, she requested that players on that Olympic team be interviewed because some of them were aware of her situation...NONE, ZERO. 0. players were ever questioned about the incident. He is a disgrace to the women's game...and he has his net of personal security protecting his every cruel, vindictive move!
 
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Tony did you hear that Taurasi and Bird have been replaced? Don't you want to know why and wouldn't you be a little pissed about it? Of course you would if that was true..

Parker is not representing a college, she is representing us, Americans, to the world. She is the best at what she does...

You're a good guy that posts here like a decent man, not a punk...You know in your heart geno is behind this.

This is one pissed off board.
 
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tonyc said:
HEY it is very obvious to me there is a problem and it my be personal. No one including CP is saying anything. So maybe its better we don't know however at some point I believe we will find out why. Lets not pass blame on anybody. The committee isn't stupid and either are the coaches but there is something going on that we don't know about and they do so lets just wait and not speculate for the good sake of everybody.
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Ummmmmmm.....nahhh! We're just going to continue to blame the committee AND Geno and rightfully so!!!
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Due somewhat to fan loyalties, we're at an impasse and we will remain there until there is an explanation given. This was a bizarre decision and the optics of it are not good for USA basketball or for Geno Auriemma. Someone needs to take ownership of the decision to leave Candace Parker off the team and provide the rationale behind it. This warrants accountability. You're of a mind to give Geno the benefit of the doubt and I'm not and apparently neither are many other people unaffiliated with Tennessee including Tina Thompson and even the Australian coach.

At the least, it has to be acknowledged that every UConn player who had a case to be on the team - is on the team while one of the 5 best players in the world (a former UConn rival) is not. Once again - the optics are bad. The USA Olympic team should represent the best of the USA first and foremost... not the best of the UConn alumni association.
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You and I agree that Parker's talent and play put her on the team. As to where she or any of the team ranks among WNBA players, I don't know because I don't follow the W much. But if Geno were to hold a grudge against anyone it would be EDD. If she hadn't walked he would likely have had a couple more titles. Parker did nothing but win some games against his team and I can't think of a single instance where he was vindictive over someone beating him. So, yes, it's a huge puzzle as to why Parker isn't on the team. I just don't see it as being Geno being petty.

I think there has to be something, or a number of somethings, that are behind this. I am willing to consider the possibility that Parker alienated some of the voters. But it's just me considering a possibility. I've also considered the possibility that Nike has something to do with it. But I don't know. And neither does anyone else on any of these boards. From what I understand each of the 5 committee members submitted their list of 12 players and Parker wasn't picked by 3 of them.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction of some LV fans that it's Geno. UConn fans have their own knee-jerk reaction that it isn't Geno. Hell, it was the same 4 years ago when Catchings started over Parker. It was all Geno hates Parker on this board. Never mind that Catchings beat Geno more often than Parker. And never mind that Parker didn't have the outside game then to play the 3 over Moore and refused to play the 5. No, it was Geno Geno Geno. I was a psych minor in college and this is a classic case of projection. A hates B. A assumes therefore that B feels the same. So A tell everyone that B hates them.

The only thing that pisses me off is that the media isn't demanding the committee explain it.
 
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GameTime said:
To think Geno has no say so in who's on the team is nuts.....You are not that naive....
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I don't think anyone is saying he doesn't tell the committee his opinion. But they make the decision, not him. And I suspect Geno wanted it that way. Hell, he could win the gold medal if they just put 25 names in a hat and picked out 12 at random.
 
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The only thing that pisses me off is that the media isn't demanding the committee explain it.[/QUOTE]

If this statement was true,you would not spend so much time and effort defending gee no. As you keep saying Candace has refused to play the 5 and that has been refuted on this board,please confirm your story via link.
 
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linkster said:
You and I agree that Parker's talent and play put her on the team. As to where she or any of the team ranks among WNBA players, I don't know because I don't follow the W much. But if Geno were to hold a grudge against anyone it would be EDD. If she hadn't walked he would likely have had a couple more titles. Parker did nothing but win some games against his team and I can't think of a single instance where he was vindictive over someone beating him. So, yes, it's a huge puzzle as to why Parker isn't on the team. I just don't see it as being Geno being petty.

I think there has to be something, or a number of somethings, that are behind this. I am willing to consider the possibility that Parker alienated some of the voters. But it's just me considering a possibility. I've also considered the possibility that Nike has something to do with it. But I don't know. And neither does anyone else on any of these boards. From what I understand each of the 5 committee members submitted their list of 12 players and Parker wasn't picked by 3 of them.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction of some LV fans that it's Geno. UConn fans have their own knee-jerk reaction that it isn't Geno. Hell, it was the same 4 years ago when Catchings started over Parker. It was all Geno hates Parker on this board. Never mind that Catchings beat Geno more often than Parker. And never mind that Parker didn't have the outside game then to play the 3 over Moore and refused to play the 5. No, it was Geno Geno Geno. I was a psych minor in college and this is a classic case of projection. A hates B. A assumes therefore that B feels the same. So A tell everyone that B hates them.

The only thing that pisses me off is that the media isn't demanding the committee explain it.
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That's the second time I read that somewhere.. maybe you the first time too. Do you have a link to a source on that part where you say Candace would not play a position the coach asked her to play. Is there an actual fact of that somewhere.

If that is a fact, and I say "if" that would not be a good thing for any player to do......; no matter how big a STAR. No one player is bigger than the TEAM.

If you got facts/links on that refusal this is a good time to post it. Otherwise it's just more unconfirmed thoughts
 
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linkster said:
You and I agree that Parker's talent and play put her on the team. As to where she or any of the team ranks among WNBA players, I don't know because I don't follow the W much. But if Geno were to hold a grudge against anyone it would be EDD. If she hadn't walked he would likely have had a couple more titles. Parker did nothing but win some games against his team and I can't think of a single instance where he was vindictive over someone beating him. So, yes, it's a huge puzzle as to why Parker isn't on the team. I just don't see it as being Geno being petty.

I think there has to be something, or a number of somethings, that are behind this. I am willing to consider the possibility that Parker alienated some of the voters. But it's just me considering a possibility. I've also considered the possibility that Nike has something to do with it. But I don't know. And neither does anyone else on any of these boards. From what I understand each of the 5 committee members submitted their list of 12 players and Parker wasn't picked by 3 of them.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction of some LV fans that it's Geno. UConn fans have their own knee-jerk reaction that it isn't Geno. Hell, it was the same 4 years ago when Catchings started over Parker. It was all Geno hates Parker on this board. Never mind that Catchings beat Geno more often than Parker. And never mind that Parker didn't have the outside game then to play the 3 over Moore and refused to play the 5. No, it was Geno Geno Geno. I was a psych minor in college and this is a classic case of projection. A hates B. A assumes therefore that B feels the same. So A tell everyone that B hates them.

The only thing that pisses me off is that the media isn't demanding the committee explain it.
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You have said a few times that "Parker refused to play the 5" as if that's common knowledge or an established fact. I've never heard that and it definitely hasn't been Parker's reputation at either Tennessee or with the Sparks to refuse a coach's instructions. TonyC (a UConn fan, I believe) speculated this could be something personal between Candace and Geno and quite frankly, that makes the most sense.
 
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Answer me this, who is a better player Parker, Stewart, Delle Donne or McCoutry? Part 2. Who has has more experience and success with USA basketball? To me both answers are obvious
 
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Chris89128 said:
Answer me this, who is a better player Parker, Stewart, Delle Donne or McCoutry? Part 2. Who has has more experience and success with USA basketball? To me both answers are obvious
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I don't think those are the questionable players, save the rookie assist given to Stewart.

Tina Charles will likely be the starting PF on the National Team, and no way in hell does she deserve that spot over Candace. It's not even close.

McCoughtry and Delle Donne have stronger cases based on than Charles does (assuming that Bird and Catchings' spots are reserved as a early retirement gift to two of the most dedicated players to the USNT)
 
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I based my question on the fact the USA BB cited depth at the 3 and 4 as part of the reason. Parker is the best 3/4 period
 
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Simple question......Has Candace made a comment on this yet? Thanks in advance.......
 
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Voepel quiet after the press conf/questions. She had said on Twitter she was going to ask questions. I want to hear what she has to say on this.
 
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T-TownVol said:
Simple question......Has Candace made a comment on this yet? Thanks in advance.......
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She made a statement on her Facebook that she was surprised and disappointed and went on to root for the team

She has given no "scoop" of her opinion on why
 
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T-TownVol said:
Thanks.......she is a class act!
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I think so too and although I'm biased in her favor, I can't fathom that she ever refused to play a position she had been asked to play for team USA or that she ever complained about not starting. That is just more spin (making stuff up) from the Geno apologists/UConn crowd. Can you imagine the frogs that would have rained down in Thompson-Boling if one of Pat Summitt's players ever refused to play a position when asked? That kind of defiance is not at all consistent with Candace Parker's history. Regardless of what any UConn fan wants to say; I don't believe it happened.
 
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There is no way he wants Parker on the court with Stewie stealing Stewie's scoring moments....It would be bad for recruiting if the announcer said Parker was from Tennessee....He will have at least 3 UConn players at a time on the floor together..
 
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linkster said:
You and I agree that Parker's talent and play put her on the team. As to where she or any of the team ranks among WNBA players, I don't know because I don't follow the W much. But if Geno were to hold a grudge against anyone it would be EDD. If she hadn't walked he would likely have had a couple more titles. Parker did nothing but win some games against his team and I can't think of a single instance where he was vindictive over someone beating him. So, yes, it's a huge puzzle as to why Parker isn't on the team. I just don't see it as being Geno being petty.

I think there has to be something, or a number of somethings, that are behind this. I am willing to consider the possibility that Parker alienated some of the voters. But it's just me considering a possibility. I've also considered the possibility that Nike has something to do with it. But I don't know. And neither does anyone else on any of these boards. From what I understand each of the 5 committee members submitted their list of 12 players and Parker wasn't picked by 3 of them.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction of some LV fans that it's Geno. UConn fans have their own knee-jerk reaction that it isn't Geno. Hell, it was the same 4 years ago when Catchings started over Parker. It was all Geno hates Parker on this board. Never mind that Catchings beat Geno more often than Parker. And never mind that Parker didn't have the outside game then to play the 3 over Moore and refused to play the 5. No, it was Geno Geno Geno.
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Linkster...you're not getting enough oxygen to your brain. I think I know the problem. Pull your head back very hard - I mean really really hard, as hard as you can. Maybe your head will pop out of Geno's rear end and you'll be able to breathe.
 
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LVJeff said:
Linkster...you're not getting enough oxygen to your brain. I think I know the problem. Pull your head back very hard - I mean really really hard, as hard as you can. Maybe your head will pop out of Geno's rear end and you'll be able to breathe.
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LVJeff just took the lead for post of the year.... lol
 
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As our brilliant poster gule would say, "it's only wimmen's basketball, don't have a cow." :)

Don't worry; Team USA will bring home the gold no matter.

BTW, what's the chance of Holly Warlick being named a head coach of Team USA one day? Same as the Hell freezes over, pigs fly and Britney Griner becomes heterosexual?? Until then, bend over and take what Geno gives you.
 
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