Carroll v. Trump ($88 million judgment for Carroll)

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Boca Vol said:
So when Biden was accused of sexual misconduct before the '20 election, it was quickly dismissed and never spoken of again. But when when Trump is accused 25 years after the fact then it's back to believe all women & Pound (#) me too!
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Who accused him of rape or assault ?
 
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Boca Vol said:
So when Biden was accused of sexual misconduct before the '20 election, it was quickly dismissed and never spoken of again. But when when Trump is accused 25 years after the fact then it's back to believe all women & Pound (#) me too!
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If it was within the statute, she could have filed a civil suit. She chose (or couldn't) not to file one...
 
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newyorkvol said:
Did you read the Vox Article? Or just google her name and dismiss based on that instead of the allegations presented in the Vox article? I’m suspecting the latter.
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I'm saying she is hardly credible. If her claims were credible, she was free to sue Biden, too, for denying it occurred. She didn't. So, nothing has been proven and established.

In comparison, it has been established that Trump sexually assaulted Carroll. She sued because of the defamatory things he has said to try to get people to disbeliever her and the legal system has evaluated both sides of the story and concluded that Trump is lying and has defamed her in doing so.

The two situations arise from the same sort of claim of an offense. But one has been litigated and adjudicated, one has not.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm saying she is hardly credible. If her claims were credible, she was free to sue Biden, too, for denying it occurred. She didn't. So, nothing has been proven and established.

In comparison, it has been established that Trump sexually assaulted Carroll. She sued because of the defamatory things he has said to try to get people to disbeliever her and the legal system has evaluated both sides of the story and concluded that Trump is lying and has defamed her in doing so.

The two situations arise from the same sort of claim of an offense. But one has been litigated and adjudicated, one has not.
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she’s free to sue Biden? I don’t think DC will create a law to suspend the SOL like NY did for Carroll.
 
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lawgator1 said:
She could have sued when the defamation occurred.

She didn't.
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I don’t think he defamed her.

Simply denying you raped or assaulted someone who has accused you isn’t defamation.

Trump attacked Carrol’s character and sanity.

The real irony here:
www.politico.com

Donald Trump: We're going to 'open up' libel laws

"We're going to have people sue you like you've never got sued before."
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Here are some facts about Carroll’s story that the establishment media do not want the public to know:

1. Bergdorf Goodman has no surveillance video of the alleged incident.

2. There are zero witnesses to the alleged sexual attack.

3. Carroll first came forward — conveniently — with the allegations while promoting her book What Do We Need Men For? in 2019, which featured a list of “The Most Hideous Men of My Life.”

4. Carroll was unable to remember when this alleged attack even occurred. She told her lawyer in 2023, “This question, the when, the when, the date, has been something I’ve [been] constantly trying to pin down.” She has jumped years — originally beginning with 1994, then moving to 1995, and even floating to 1996. She cannot remember the season in which the alleged attack occurred either.

5. The Donna Karan blazer dress she claims to have worn during the alleged incident was not even available at the time of her claims. Trump Attorney Boris Epshteyn told reporters, “She said, ‘This is the dress I wore in 1994.’ They went back, they checked. The dress wasn’t even made in 1994.”

“And that’s why the date’s moved around. This is the 80s. Is it the 90s? Is it the 2000s? President Trump has consistently stated that he was falsely accused, and he has the right to defend himself,” he added.

6. She never came forward with these allegations over the years despite constantly being open about sexuality, posting things that were very sexual in nature on social media — many of which Trump has shared. They include remarks such as “How do you know your ‘unwanted sexual advance’ is unwanted, until you advance it?” and “Sex Tip I Learned From My Dog: When in heat, chase the male until he collapses with exhaustion … then jump him!”

7. She said she was never raped, telling the New York Times’ podcast, The Daily, “Every woman gets to choose her word. Every woman gets to choose how she describes it. This is my way of saying it. This is my word. My word is ‘fight.’ My word is not the ‘victim’ word. I have not — I have not been raped,” she continued. “I have — something has not been done to me. I fought. That’s the thing.”

8. She named her cat “Vagina.” “Her dog, or her cat, was named ‘Vagina.’ The judge wouldn’t allow us to put that in — all of these things — but with her, they could put in anything: Access Hollywood,” Trump told CNN.

9. Joe Tacopina, an attorney for Trump, pointed out in May 2023 that Carroll’s entire story has incredible similarities to a 2012 episode of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit. In that episode, titled “Theatre and Tricks,” an individual talks about a rape fantasy in Bergdorf Goodman — the same department store where Carroll claims the incident took place.

10. Speaking of shows, Carroll loved Trump’s show The Apprentice.

11. Carroll made a joke associating sex with Bergdorf Goodman in a November 1993 edition of Elle, which was before the alleged Trump attack took place. As Breitbart News detailed:

12. Carroll is financially backed by anti-Trump Democrat megadonor Reid Hoffman, who has openly admitted to visiting convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein’s private island.

13. Democrat party activists back her as well, as Breitbart News detailed:

Indeed, one of Carroll’s attorneys is Roberta Kaplan — a Democrat Party activist who led the group Time’s Up. She left the activist group after it was revealed she was aiding former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo in attempting to discredit the Democrat’s accusers. It served as a great irony as Time’s Up seeks to defend women from what it claims is discrimination and harassment. This fact has led to mounting speculation that Kaplan only gets involved in cases that she views as politically expedient.
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Further, Federal District Judge Lewis Kaplan is overseeing the process and has connections to Carroll’s other attorney, Shawn Crowley. She was actually a law clerk for Judge Kaplan, and he officiated her wedding.

14. The lawsuit was only able to proceed after Democrats created the Adult Survivors Act in 2022. She conveniently pursued this suit in November following the law going into effect, which allowed her to avoid the statute of limitations for this case.

15. Carroll once said, “Most people think of rape as sexy.”

www.breitbart.com

15 Facts About E. Jean Carroll's Case the Media Don't Want You to Know

Serious concerns have fallen under the radar regarding E. Jean Carrol's entire lawsuit against Donald Trump.
www.breitbart.com www.breitbart.com





 
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Those 15 items fall into 3 buckets

1. Items that could have been raised if Trump's team actually raised a defense. Jury can't consider it if they don't hear it.

2. Items that could have been included if Trump's team met discovery deadlines.

3. Items that have no relevance as to whether or not she was attacked in that dressing room

Her case seems flimsy but when you don't offer up a competent defense, this could be the result....
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Here are some facts about Carroll’s story that the establishment media do not want the public to know:

1. Bergdorf Goodman has no surveillance video of the alleged incident.

2. There are zero witnesses to the alleged sexual attack.

3. Carroll first came forward — conveniently — with the allegations while promoting her book What Do We Need Men For? in 2019, which featured a list of “The Most Hideous Men of My Life.”

4. Carroll was unable to remember when this alleged attack even occurred. She told her lawyer in 2023, “This question, the when, the when, the date, has been something I’ve [been] constantly trying to pin down.” She has jumped years — originally beginning with 1994, then moving to 1995, and even floating to 1996. She cannot remember the season in which the alleged attack occurred either.

5. The Donna Karan blazer dress she claims to have worn during the alleged incident was not even available at the time of her claims. Trump Attorney Boris Epshteyn told reporters, “She said, ‘This is the dress I wore in 1994.’ They went back, they checked. The dress wasn’t even made in 1994.”

“And that’s why the date’s moved around. This is the 80s. Is it the 90s? Is it the 2000s? President Trump has consistently stated that he was falsely accused, and he has the right to defend himself,” he added.

6. She never came forward with these allegations over the years despite constantly being open about sexuality, posting things that were very sexual in nature on social media — many of which Trump has shared. They include remarks such as “How do you know your ‘unwanted sexual advance’ is unwanted, until you advance it?” and “Sex Tip I Learned From My Dog: When in heat, chase the male until he collapses with exhaustion … then jump him!”

7. She said she was never raped, telling the New York Times’ podcast, The Daily, “Every woman gets to choose her word. Every woman gets to choose how she describes it. This is my way of saying it. This is my word. My word is ‘fight.’ My word is not the ‘victim’ word. I have not — I have not been raped,” she continued. “I have — something has not been done to me. I fought. That’s the thing.”

8. She named her cat “Vagina.” “Her dog, or her cat, was named ‘Vagina.’ The judge wouldn’t allow us to put that in — all of these things — but with her, they could put in anything: Access Hollywood,” Trump told CNN.

9. Joe Tacopina, an attorney for Trump, pointed out in May 2023 that Carroll’s entire story has incredible similarities to a 2012 episode of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit. In that episode, titled “Theatre and Tricks,” an individual talks about a rape fantasy in Bergdorf Goodman — the same department store where Carroll claims the incident took place.

10. Speaking of shows, Carroll loved Trump’s show The Apprentice.

11. Carroll made a joke associating sex with Bergdorf Goodman in a November 1993 edition of Elle, which was before the alleged Trump attack took place. As Breitbart News detailed:

12. Carroll is financially backed by anti-Trump Democrat megadonor Reid Hoffman, who has openly admitted to visiting convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein’s private island.

13. Democrat party activists back her as well, as Breitbart News detailed:



Further, Federal District Judge Lewis Kaplan is overseeing the process and has connections to Carroll’s other attorney, Shawn Crowley. She was actually a law clerk for Judge Kaplan, and he officiated her wedding.

14. The lawsuit was only able to proceed after Democrats created the Adult Survivors Act in 2022. She conveniently pursued this suit in November following the law going into effect, which allowed her to avoid the statute of limitations for this case.

15. Carroll once said, “Most people think of rape as sexy.”

www.breitbart.com

15 Facts About E. Jean Carroll's Case the Media Don't Want You to Know

Serious concerns have fallen under the radar regarding E. Jean Carrol's entire lawsuit against Donald Trump.
www.breitbart.com www.breitbart.com
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Serious WhatAboutism. It's curable.

Sometimes.
 
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In this courtroom sketch, E. Jean Carroll, right, turns around towards former President Donald Trump, seated left, Tuesday, Jan. 16, 2024, in New York. (AP Photo/Elizabeth Williams)
 
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CobbVol said:
Of course, this may be (D)ifferent ...

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Exclusive | Trump lawyers to use ‘conflict of interest’ between judge, Carroll’s attorney in appeal of $83.3M jury verdict: ‘Insane’

“It was never disclosed. It’s insane and so incestuous,” Habba said, insisting neither the 79-year-old judge nor Roberta Kaplan, 57, who aren’t related, disclosed the “conflict of inter…
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Unless they still have some kind of recent, close social connection, this isn't an ethical violation. Briefly working at the same 1000+ attorney firm over 30 years ago with no supervisory authority isnt going to create a conflict.

In addition, a prudent, competent lawyer would have noticed the overlap months ago and would have raised the objection then if they really didnt want Judge Kaplan...
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm saying she is hardly credible. If her claims were credible, she was free to sue Biden, too, for denying it occurred. She didn't. So, nothing has been proven and established.

In comparison, it has been established that Trump sexually assaulted Carroll. She sued because of the defamatory things he has said to try to get people to disbeliever her and the legal system has evaluated both sides of the story and concluded that Trump is lying and has defamed her in doing so.

The two situations arise from the same sort of claim of an offense. But one has been litigated and adjudicated, one has not.
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She has to be at least as credible as Carroll.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Unless they still have some kind of recent, close social connection, this isn't an ethical violation. Briefly working at the same 1000+ attorney firm over 30 years ago with no supervisory authority isnt going to create a conflict.

In addition, a prudent, competent lawyer would have noticed the overlap months ago and would have raised the objection then if they really didnt want Judge Kaplan...
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We don't know about their past relationship because he or the prosecutor did not bring it up as they should have. The onus is not on the defense to identify potential conflict of interests. The judge should have raised the issue from the start, discussed it with both parties, and explained why he is not recusing himself.
 
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volbeast33 said:
She has to be at least as credible as Carroll.
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Not to Dems. Ashley Biden’s diary is a fake. All the videos of Joe groping young girls and sniffing them are perfectly normal. He’s a good and moral man.
 
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