Carroll v. Trump ($88 million judgment for Carroll)

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CobbVol said:
We don't know about their past relationship because he or the prosecutor did not bring it up as they should have. The onus is not on the defense to identify potential conflict of interests. The judge should have raised the issue from the start, discussed it with both parties, and explained why he is not recusing himself.
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From an ethical perspective, it's up to the judge's discretion and judgment if this 30+ year old overlap where they worked at the same gigantic firm would make them impartial. Unless there was direct supervisory control or a recent close social connection, the judge did not have to disclose.

This is a Presidentially appointed judge and we'll known litigator. To "all of a sudden" not know of a prior work overlap is either incompetence or not the truth. It was likely all part of the appeals plan all along.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Those 15 items fall into 3 buckets

1. Items that could have been raised if Trump's team actually raised a defense. Jury can't consider it if they don't hear it.

2. Items that could have been included if Trump's team met discovery deadlines.

3. Items that have no relevance as to whether or not she was attacked in that dressing room

Her case seems flimsy but when you don't offer up a competent defense, this could be the result....
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That’s what I don’t get. If you’re innocent, and to be clear I’m not commenting one way or the other as to Trump’s guilt or innocence, why not go to court and tear her case apart? The only thing that makes sense to me is this allows Trump to use this as a “see, look what they’re doing to me even with all these facts against her story.” He knows 99% of the population won’t dig deep enough to see if those facts ever actually came up in court, especially a few months from now when he’s using this result as a means to an end. Maybe it’s not that but that’s what makes the most sense to me.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
That’s what I don’t get. If you’re innocent, and to be clear I’m not commenting one way or the other as to Trump’s guilt or innocence, why not go to court and tear her case apart? The only thing that makes sense to me is this allows Trump to use this as a “see, look what they’re doing to me even with all these facts against her story.” He knows 99% of the population won’t dig deep enough to see if those facts ever actually came up in court, especially a few months from now when he’s using this result as a means to an end. Maybe it’s not that but that’s what makes the most sense to me.
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It's 1 of 3 things (or combination)

1. His attorneys did not want to put him on the stand.

2. His legal team is beyond incompetent.

3. He uses this case in a way you described knowing most of his base/potential base will blindly believe what they are told.


I just can't fathom his legal team to be that bad when they miss evidence deadlines, can't prepare a defense, can't get experts qualified, fail to get her social media into evidence, miss court-mandated discovery timelines, fail to bring in expert to dispute her dress story..
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
It's 1 of 3 things (or combination)

1. His attorneys did not want to put him on the stand.

2. His legal team is beyond incompetent.

3. He uses this case in a way you described knowing most of his base/potential base will blindly believe what they are told.


I just can't fathom his legal team to be that bad when they miss evidence deadlines, can't prepare a defense, can't get experts qualified, fail to get her social media into evidence, miss court-mandated discovery timelines, fail to bring in expert to dispute her dress story..
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One of Trump’s former attorneys has claimed that there is a person in Trump’s inner circle that gives Trump bad advice and meddles in his legal issues making their jobs nearly impossible. He said this person has their own agenda, and that unfortunately Trump doesn’t realize it.
 
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#706
davethevol said:
One of Trump’s former attorneys has claimed that there is a person in Trump’s inner circle that gives Trump bad advice and meddles in his legal issues making their jobs nearly impossible. He said this person has their own agenda, and that unfortunately Trump doesn’t realize it.
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I bet it’s actually Trump’s reflection. That’s the only person Trump will listen to.
 
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#707
davethevol said:
One of Trump’s former attorneys has claimed that there is a person in Trump’s inner circle that gives Trump bad advice and meddles in his legal issues making their jobs nearly impossible. He said this person has their own agenda, and that unfortunately Trump doesn’t realize it.
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Ivanka or Jared.
 
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#708
hUTch2002 said:
Ha! My God your head is stuck somewhere. I would say in the sand but I’m guessing somewhere far stinkier. I’m completely shocked that you “forgot” about Reade. Shocked.
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You mean the Russian agent who was part of Putin's effort to meddle in the campaign to help Trump?
 
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#712
davethevol said:
It’s actually Boris Epshteyn according to former Trump attorney Tim Parlatore.
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Oh yeah, Boris was at his trial and got slapped around a bit by Kaplan when he tried to speak as part of Trump's trial team. Kaplan told him to STFU because he wasn't admitted to practice before the SDNY. Just another case of Trump having the best people. But hey, at least they're all white, and isn't that what folks really care about?
 
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davethevol said:
One of Trump’s former attorneys has claimed that there is a person in Trump’s inner circle that gives Trump bad advice and meddles in his legal issues making their jobs nearly impossible. He said this person has their own agenda, and that unfortunately Trump doesn’t realize it.
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Is this an excuse or a sad commentary on Trump's ability to discern?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I was just playing the MAGA right's game of supposition and surmise.
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You’ve been the king of that for quite a while now as you bought into the ENTIRE Russian collusion story and every offshoot of it. Trump crosses your brain multiple times a day. And you’re here pretending to play a game of supposition and surmise. Sure LG. Sure.
 
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davethevol said:
One of Trump’s former attorneys has claimed that there is a person in Trump’s inner circle that gives Trump bad advice and meddles in his legal issues making their jobs nearly impossible. He said this person has their own agenda, and that unfortunately Trump doesn’t realize it.
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Do you genuinely believe this?

Smart men can smell bad advice. He has over 100 million people telling him to stick to the script. That's a piss poor excuse.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I don't think there was collusion but I do think Russia tried to help Trump win because they saw that as in their interests.
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So why did they help Bernie? Putin hates Hilary. You and I both know this. Yet you refuse to be honest about it
 
#725
#725
lawgator1 said:
I don't think there was collusion but I do think Russia tried to help Trump win because they saw that as in their interests.
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My bet is that they have a ton of research into who is best and/or most easily manipulated, controlled and vulnerable to exploitation.
 
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